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Hot Potato Mash Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 10:50 PM
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VINCENT BUGLIOSI: THE PROSECUTION OF GEORGE W BUSH FOR MURDER
 
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On Wednesday, famed Charles Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi spoke to a packed and enthusiastic crowd of more than 350 Angelinos about his new book, “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.” While Bugliosi’s talk will eventually appear on C-SPAN, you can view it first in its entirety below…

Part 1 (19:45)

"In my book, "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder," I present evidence that proves beyond all reasonable doubt that George Bush took this nation to war on a lie, under false pretenses, and therefore under the law is guilty of murder for the deaths of over 4,000 young American soldiers who died so far in this war."

Bugliosi began the evening by explaining to the Los Angeles audience that George W. Bush is guilty of murder, according to the law, if he brought the country to war under false pretenses. And Bugliosi emphasized the legal aspect of the case in order to fend off likely attackers:

"So although Bush supporters can argue that Bush should not be prosecuted because they don't think he did anything wrong, they cannot legitimately say that he should not be prosecuted if he has done what I say he did. To say that is to admit that you have no respect for our American system of justice and democracy and that you would prefer that presidents have the same rights as tyrannical dictators like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Saddam Hussein."

Bugliosi had a similar answer for those who simply believe it is impossible to prosecute Bush for murder:

"There's this sense out there among many that prosecuting Bush for murder can't be done. Which is the equivalent of saying what - that he is above the law. That ordinary laws simply don't apply to him."

Bugliosi also had some special words for the American Right Wing which has expressed its disapproval with his book:

"The third group of people responding to my book is the nation's right wing. And they of course have contempt for me and my book. But whatever contempt they have for me, I can assure them and I can assure you I have much much much more contempt for them. There are no more repugnant, hypocritical and un-American -- and that's the word I want to emphasize -- un-American people in our society today than the right wing."

Bugliosi, however, made clear that this book was not political for him and even said he would have written the same book had Bush been a Democrat. So fair is Bugliosi that he even offers up some mitigating evidence for Bush and his co-conspirators:

"And there is one thing that I should probably say in partial defense of these people that goes in mitigation, arguably reduces their moral culpability. And what I'm talking about is that many of these people are incredibly stupid. And they make up for their stupidity by being extremely ignorant. And when you combine stupidity with ignorance that's a toxic combination."

Finally, Part 1 ends with the law:

"If a conspirator, or anyone for that matter, deliberately sets in motion a chain of events which he knows will cause -- that's the key word -- cause a third party innocent agent to commit an act, the defendant is criminally responsible for that act. Bush, in invading Iraq, caused Iraqis to kill American soldiers in much the same fashion that a person causes a gun to fire a bullet that kills someone by pulling the trigger."

Part 2 (17:54) at http://www.hotpotatomash.com/2008/06/video-exclusi-2.html

Part 2 begins with Bugliosi explaining the only way Bush might be innocent of murder:

"Bush can only wash his hands of culpability if he did not take this nation to war under false pretenses. If he did, which the evidence overwhelmingly shows, he is criminally responsible for the deaths of all those American soldiers who have died fighting his war in Iraq.

The main issue would be whether or not George Bush went to war, as he always claimed, in self-defense – the so-called pre-emptive strike. Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, alleged as so, therefore he was an imminent threat to the security of this country so Bush had to strike first in self-defense. If the war was not in self-defense but one that the prosecutor can prove Bush took us to under false pretenses than all of the killings of American soldiers in Iraq become unlawful killings and therefore murder."

While Bugliosi's animus was mostly reserved for Bush and his co-conspirators, he did find time to also criticize Ken Starr, The New York Times and the Supreme Court:

"I seem to be getting more angry and acerbic and caustic and that’s because I am always in a state of rage. How can I help but be -- the monstrous, grotesque, obscene Ken Starr almost destroyed the Clinton presidency over absolutely nothing while being totally and completely supported and funded by the federal government. They funded his seven year, seventy million dollar effort, the federal government. And the so-called liberal media, The New York Times savaged Clinton on a day to day basis, supported this monstrous, grotesque, obscene figure – one of the most reprehensible figures in American history – Ken Starr.

The US Supreme Court 2000, stopping the recount in Florida which was specifically authorized by Florida law, taking the election away from the American people and appointing George Bush president, one of the biggest crimes in American history."

The heart of Part 2, however, is reserved for Bugliosi's evidence against George W. Bush. And first on the list was Bush's lies to the country that were contrary to the National Intelligence Estimate:

"In George Bush’s first speech to the nation on Hussein and Iraq, October 7, 2002 in Cincinnati, Ohio, Bush told Americans that Saddam Hussein was a great danger to this nation either by his attacking us with the so-called weapons of mass destruction or by giving these weapons to a terrorist group to attack us. And Bush said that this attack could happen, ‘on any given day,’ meaning what, that the threat was imminent.

The only big problem for George Bush is that on October the first, six days earlier, the CIA sent Bush its 2002 National Intelligence Estimate – a classified top secret report that represented the consensus opinion of all 16 US federal intelligence agencies on the issue of whether or not Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country and on page 8 of that 91 page report it clearly and unequivocally says – and by the way what I’m about to tell you to my knowledge has never been said or never been written or never appeared in any major newspaper or magazine in America – page 8 clearly says that Hussein was not an imminent threat to the security of this country. That he would only be a threat if he feared we were about to attack him.

So we know then, not think but know, that when George Bush told the nation on the evening of October 7th, Cincinnati, Ohio, that Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country, he was telling millions of unsuspecting Americans the exact opposite of what his own CIA was telling him. Now if we had nothing else at all, and there is so much more, that alone shows what, that George Bush took this nation to war on a terrible terrible lie. Therefore all the killings in Iraq became unlawful killings and murder."

But it gets worse! In fact, it gets evil, perverse, sick and criminal:

"But it gets worse. It gets worse. October 4th, three days later, Bush and his people had the CIA release an unclassified summary version of the October 1st classified report so that this October 4th unclassified version could be released to the American public and to Congress. This unclassified version came to be known as the White Paper. And in this White Paper that was shown to the American people and to Congress, in which contained the opinion of 16 US intelligence agencies that Hussein was not an imminent threat to the security of this country, that conclusion was completely deleted, completely eliminated. Every single one of these all important words, the most important conclusion in that classified document, was completely deleted from the White Paper. And the question I have of you, is how evil, how perverse, how sick, how criminal can George Bush and his people be?"

The next piece of ever damning evidence, according to Bugliosi, is the January 31, 2003, Manning Memo written by Tony Blair's chief foreign policy advisor after a top level meeting in the Oval Office less than two months before the invasion.

"He says that George Bush was so worried about the failure of the UN inspectors to find weapons of mass destruction that Bush started to talk about three ways to ‘provoke a confrontation’ with Saddam Hussein. One of which he said was to fly U2 reconnaissance aircraft over Iraq falsely painted in United Nations colors and he said if Saddam fires on those planes it would be a violation of UN resolutions and therefore justify our going to war. So here is George Bush telling Americans, telling the world, that Hussein is an imminent threat to the security of this country, but behind closed doors this very small human being was talking about how to provoke Hussein into a war."

Part 3 (15:50) at http://www.hotpotatomash.com/2008/06/video-exclusi-2.html

Part 3 begins with another piece of evidence against Bush. Mainly, how Bush responded to the ever positive testimony of chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix on March 7, 2003, by throwing him and his team out of the country and quickly invading Iraq. Blix had told the UN Security Counsel that the inspectors were getting proactive cooperation from Saddam Hussein and that their investigation would be completed in a few months:

"Blix and his people became Bush’s biggest adversaries because if Blix and his people confirm that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, that would rob Bush of his main argument for war – a war that he wanted to fight at all costs."

The bulk of Part 3, however, does not concentrate on evidence of Bush's guilt but rather Bush's state of mind. Bugliosi takes great offense to the fact that Bush has often described his days as perfect and that he proclaims himself to be so happy:

"Even if George Bush was only guilty of making an innocent mistake in taking this nation to war in Iraq, not murder as I firmly believe, with all of the death, horror and suffering he has caused, what type of a monstrous individual is it who could be happy with his life? What type of a human monster is George Bush?

If I ever killed one person in my life, even accidentally – a car accident – I’d never have another perfect day as long as I lived. George Bush is responsible for the horrible deaths of thousands of human beings and he is talking about having a perfect day. Bush’s plans to have a perfect day right in the middle of all the death and horror in Iraq goes so far beyond acceptable human conduct that no moral telescope can discern its shape, form and nature."

Bugliosi concludes by telling the audience that he will not rest or be satisfied until George W. Bush is prosecuted for first degree murder:

"I don’t like to see anyone get away with murder, even one murder. Simpson got away with two murders and I got so angry that I wrote a book - Outrage, the Five Reasons O.J. Simpson got away with murder. If I can get so angry about someone getting away with one or two murders you can imagine how I feel about George Bush who has gotten away with over 100,000 murders and has been smiling and enjoying himself throughout the whole period. It may sound presumptuous of me but I can tell you that while I may not succeed, I’m not going to be satisfied until I see George Bush in an American courtroom being prosecuted for first degree murder."

The first degree murder of over 4,000 American soldiers:

"If justice means anything at all in America, if we are not going to forget about those 4,000 young American soldiers who came back from Bush’s war in a box, I say we have no choice but to bring murder charges against the son of privilege from Crawford, Texas."

See it all at http://www.hotpotatomash.com/2008/06/video-exclusi-2.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 10:58 PM
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1. MURDER
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 02:53 AM
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10. it's been brought to my attention:
Under what Mr. Bugliosi has made available to prosecutors across our nation as evidence and reason to proceed with prosecution, I would like to see families who've lost loved ones in this illegal occupation bring about proceedings in Civil Court, where the burden of proof is much less than that of a criminal court, indeed only a 'preponderance' of the truth, to compensate for the loss of their loved one(s). Be it father, mother, son, daughter etc. Mebbee that'd hit him where it truly hurts, in the court of judgement, and in his fucking wallet.

Here's hoping.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 03:44 PM
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19. I bought this. its awesome. you need to read it and give it as gifts.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 04:20 PM
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20. I agree
I'm about 2/3 through it. It's very compelling.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:01 PM
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2. He's brave, taking on the Bush crime family!
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:17 PM
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4. It's encouraging to know
there are at least a few brave voices (Dennis Kucinich is perhaps the bravest) among so many remarkable cowards.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 05:16 PM
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21. we shouldn't have to have a government like that
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:07 PM
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3. I just bought the book
I read about one and a half pages and I was hooked immediately, but I stopped because I want to save it to read on our vacation flight to the east coast.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 12:21 PM
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17. Make sure that you a bury that in your carry on!
You might end up with a cavity search! Peace, Kim
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 05:54 PM
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23. LOL!
You are a wise woman. Thanks for the tip.:)
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:31 PM
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5. GET THAT MURDERER!!!
And what about the whole crowd? Gotta get the puppeteer zany too!
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:45 PM
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6. Perfect logic, excellent evidence to back it up. Who will stop this man
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:57 PM
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7. K and R
:kick:
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 01:01 AM
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8. K&R! nt
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tucsonlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 02:51 AM
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9. Obama's First Cabinet Appointment?
Vincent Bugliosi for AG!!
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 10:58 AM
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16. Impeach. Prosecute. Save America.
Naming Bugliosi as AG, or a special prosecutor, will restore my faith in Obama, who, in light of the FISA capitualtion, should change his slogan from "Yes we Can!" to "Maybe we Will."
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 03:06 AM
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11. What can we do?
When you consider the number of people locked up in this country for lesser crimes, than Bush's, it kind of makes you sick.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 03:12 AM
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12. k&r!
Rated it at youtube. Favorited and emailed to all on my email list! Thank you Mr. Bugliosi, thank you!


Impeach! Indict! Imprison the murderers!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 06:06 AM
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13. None Dare Call It Treason By Vincent Bugliosi
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20010205/bugliosi

None Dare Call It Treason George W. Bush

Vincent Bugliosi: That an election for an American President can be stolen by the highest court in the land under the deliberate pretext of an inapplicable constitutional provision has got to be one of the most frightening events ever to have occurred in this country.
From the beginning, Bush desperately sought, as it were, to prevent the opening of the door, the looking into the box--unmistakable signs that he feared the truth. In a nation that prides itself on openness, instead of the Supreme Court doing everything within its power to find a legal way to open the door and box, they did the precise opposite in grasping, stretching and searching mightily for a way, any way at all, to aid their choice for President, Bush, in the suppression of the truth, finally settling, in their judicial coup d'état, on the untenable argument that there was a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection clause--the Court asserting that because of the various standards of determining the voter's intent in the Florida counties, voters were treated unequally, since a vote disqualified in one county (the so-called undervotes, which the voting machines did not pick up) may have been counted in another county, and vice versa. Accordingly, the Court reversed the Florida Supreme Court's order that the undervotes be counted, effectively delivering the presidency to Bush.

Now, in the equal protection cases I've seen, the aggrieved party, the one who is being harmed and discriminated against, almost invariably brings the action. But no Florida voter I'm aware of brought any action under the equal protection clause claiming he was disfranchised because of the different standards being employed. What happened here is that Bush leaped in and tried to profit from a hypothetical wrong inflicted on someone else. Even assuming Bush had this right, the very core of his petition to the Court was that he himself would be harmed by these different standards. But would he have? If we're to be governed by common sense, the answer is no. The reason is that just as with flipping a coin you end up in rather short order with as many heads as tails, there would be a "wash" here for both sides, i.e., there would be just as many Bush as Gore votes that would be counted in one county yet disqualified in the next. (Even if we were to assume, for the sake of argument, that the wash wouldn't end up exactly, 100 percent even, we'd still be dealing with the rule of de minimis non curat lex--the law does not concern itself with trifling matters.) So what harm to Bush was the Court so passionately trying to prevent by its ruling other than the real one: that he would be harmed by the truth as elicited from a full counting of the undervotes?

And if the Court's five-member majority was concerned not about Bush but the voters themselves, as they fervently claimed to be, then under what conceivable theory would they, in effect, tell these voters, "We're so concerned that some of you undervoters may lose your vote under the different Florida county standards that we're going to solve the problem by making sure that none of you undervoters have your votes counted"? Isn't this exactly what the Court did?

Gore's lawyer, David Boies, never argued either of the above points to the Court. Also, since Boies already knew (from language in the December 9 emergency order of the Court) that Justice Scalia, the Court's right-wing ideologue; his Pavlovian puppet, Clarence Thomas, who doesn't even try to create the impression that he's thinking; and three other conservatives on the Court (William Rehnquist, Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy) intended to deodorize their foul intent by hanging their hat on the anemic equal protection argument, wouldn't you think that he and his people would have come up with at least three or four strong arguments to expose it for what it was--a legal gimmick that the brazen, shameless majority intended to invoke to perpetrate a judicial hijacking in broad daylight? And made sure that he got into the record of his oral argument all of these points? Yet, remarkably, Boies only managed to make one good equal protection argument, and that one near the very end of his presentation, and then only because Justice Rehnquist (not at Boies's request, I might add) granted him an extra two minutes. If Rehnquist hadn't given him the additional two minutes, Boies would have sat down without getting even one good equal protection argument into the record.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 09:09 AM
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14. kick
amazing lecture and book

:kick:

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 10:47 AM
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15. kick
* is a WAR CRIMINAL AND MURDERER, so is Dick
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 12:35 PM
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18. "None Dare Call It Treason--" good title--!!! Certainly not our "free press" . . . !!!
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 05:32 PM
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22. when will this be on cspan? nt
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 11:32 AM
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25. Is this really going to be on Cspan? nt
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 11:43 AM
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24. kicking for more exposure! nt
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