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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:53 PM
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Barack Obama`s Major Iraq Speech, July 15, 2008 - Full Speech
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Obama delivers an address on Iraq Policy. July 15, 2008.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:59 PM
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1. K and R - a must see! nt
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:27 PM
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2. A great speech. n/t
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:22 PM
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5. If McCain watched this entire speech I would think he wants to withdraw from the race
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:18 PM
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3. Thanks for this post! Do you know if the text is up anywhere? nt
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:20 PM
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4. Holy charisma Barrack, what a vision....k&r
:applause:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:52 PM
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6. this was a GREAT speech....it really made me feel absolutely sure about him....i am so proud to vote
for Sen Obama....just what we and perhaps the rest of the world can begin to forgive us for bush's evil actions.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:00 PM
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7. It wasn't a great speech, merely an intelligent speech, but hey, how long has it been
since we have heard anything smart, well thought out, and worthy of consideration from a president?

Too long. And, god, it seems like centuries, not just eight years.

My argument with the speech is his analogy to the Marshall Plan--and the vast difference between America then and America now: 1) on the economy (we were the economic powerhouse of the world then; now we are a broken, looted hulk, with chilling parallels to 1929); 2) on America's standing in the world (then, we were at the height of our prestige as a nation, now we are a disgrace to the words "democracy" and "human rights"); 3) on progressive values vs. global corporate predator power (then, corporations were properly regulated for the common good, and the progressive consensus was secure; now corporations have gotten completely out of public control, and do what they like, including hijacking our military for a corporate oil war and then gas gouging us anyway, and bonding with rightwing nutballs on a radical religious agenda); and 4) on the condition of the planet (we had only lost 30% to 40% of the planet's forests to industrial development the end of WW II; now it's up to 80% destroyed altogether--gone, fini, kaput--or seriously damaged, including forest resources such as clean water and biodiversity, and, above all, CO2 storage--cleaning the atmosphere).

It's not the same world. And I think Obama should have pointed that out very clearly. And the looting and destruction of this junta has been so bad, that it equals all the losses of progressive values, squeezings of the workers/middle class, devastation of the poor, bloated military boondoggles, destructions of S&L's, pension systems and other pillars of middle class life, and ravages of the environment, from Reagan to Bush. It has been unprecedented theft and an unprecedented assault on the rule of law, and on everything we hold dear. The crisis we face is not what we should have done, and could have done, ten years ago. The crisis that we face is that we can no longer afford to be the "leader" that Obama envisions the U.S. to be.

Obama pledges to spend $10 billion here, and $10 billion there--for foreign aid (his new "Marshall Plan"), and for a renewed war in Afghanistan/Pakistan. Where is he going to get this money? It ain't there. We're broke. REALLY broke. Seriously broke. Social Security may be gone. Medicare. Emergency services. Infrastructure. That's how serious it is. Our financial institutions are insolvent. Many local governments, school systems and other public services are insolvent, or heading there fast. The trucking industry, the airlines industry, small and large mail order businesses all over the country, the tourist industry--all businesses that are particularly dependent on gasoline--are in major trouble, and the next tier (not quite as dependent on gasoline) are heading there fast. Everything has been LOOTED. Multi-billions in Iraq reconstruction money has already been looted. That was not the case at the end of WW II, when Marshall proposed his plan to rebuild Europe. The American economy was heading into a boom, in every sphere. And that was not the case eight years ago, when Clinton concluded the "free trade" and tech boomlets with a surplus. It's all gone, and we are in profound debt up to our ears for the rest of the century.

With every plank of Obama's speech, I kept thinking: Intelligent, reasonable, or at least arguable--ten years ago, even five years ago. But today? The Bushites (and the two Diebold Congresses we have suffered) have radically changed out situation for the worse, and we don't have the money to fund these grand plans, and, furthermore, we don't have anything to sell. Democracy? Pssht! What democracy? Our Constitution is in shreds. Our voting system is a joke. Torture? Yeah, I guess you could call that a product. Neo-liberalism? Want to get booed all over Latin America, and much of Asia and Africa? Try to talk "free trade" to Peruvian miners or Bolivian campesinos or South Korean farmers!

I'm all for positive visions. Really I am. And I certainly applauded when he said that the U.S. should make clear its commitment to END the nuclear weapons age. I also applauded him for the most positive plan that he proposed: conversion to "green" energy--which is both a dire necessity, in view of global warming, and a means of rebuilding our broken economy. But the upshot of his speech is that he is somehow going to restore the U.S.--including its imperial ambitions--to pre-Bush conditions, and proceed as if nothing has happened, as if we still had a surplus, and didn't have a $10 TRILLION deficit, and still had prestige in the world, and still had some "values" to sell (at corporate prices)--when all that we still were, then, has been utterly plundered and destroyed. We are longer that country.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 02:31 AM
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10. Read Obama`s full remarks here...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:22 PM
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8. Thanks great speech, intelligent, far reaching and comprehesive
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:12 PM
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9. "As careful getting out of Iraq, as we were careless getting in."
n/t

pnorman
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:32 AM
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11. Nice to see a grown up who can really speak.
Complex issues, historical context, geopolitical reasoning, and real goals
worth working for all delt with in this one speech .... I am such a geek that I
read it too ..... I hope people know what a once in a lifetime we have in Obama.
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danielet Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:40 PM
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12. The surge DID work...the Iraqi way!
Actually the "surge" has failed because it has not been supported by the carrot that goes with the stick. Yes, a lot of Iraqis are surviving and yes the "Islam fatigue" has set in. People are now wondering what they will do with the rest of their lives, other than observant self-denial and dying to kill. Pondering that question, Maliki doesn't look so bad anymore... a technical accord with Western oil companies doesn't look so bad anymore...a Shia majority government doesn't look so bad anymore...a political no-winner-no-loser relationship between factions doesn't look so bad anymore. So tiered of Jihad, of Islam (as don'ts rather than dos), of things broken instead of things built, so tired of foreign troops pointlessly kicking down doors in the middle of the night and humiliating the men of the house...so plain tired that the "surge" DOES SEEM TO WORK-- but it failed in its real mission: to install the US as a permanent presence in Iraq dominating its oil and the region.

Iraqis want peace and rebuilding and they are ALL convinced that it can only happen when the day with US troops out of Iraq is encircled on their calendar. By adding more troops so late in the occupation, Petraeus made it seem that they only mean a lot more of the same: corrupt American incompetence, a la Halliburton, and fear manifested as brutality, a la US military. Following Israeli occupation techniques, the US has coalesced Iraqis around "We'd rather do it ourselves, whomever we are!" So no monster embassy, no trigger happy mercenary gunslingers, no permanent bases, and above all: NO IMMUNITY FOR DESTRUCTION OF LIFE AND PROPERTY.

If this sudden Iraqi unity against open-ended US military presence is deemed "success" for the purge, so be it; I'll leave the historical arguments for when Petraeus returns. But I was told that Brit PM Brown privately said: the Yanks seem to have copied our experience to the last drop, bringing to mind the famous Santayana quote about how those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it-- and ideologues with personal and ulterior motives make the worst historians (that includes neocons, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Petraeus and possibly Bush, who was sort of out of the decision loop, presented with fait accompli).

What is ironic is that the breaking loose of the Sunni side of the insurgency was a pre-surge proof that necessity makes for brilliance. Short on troops, the military chose to, for once, listen to the EU Spooks and bonded units loaded with cash, guns and ammo to local shaikhs much as the Marines and Army bonded platoons of US soldiers in CAP/MAT teams to village in I Corps and III-IV Corps in South Vietnam. That bond has made the locals break with the die-killing Jihad, exposing the immense "Islam fatigue" that even the Brits noticed as they were ready to give up in the last century. Now Sunnis and Shias alike are asking: how do I get a salary and what can I buy with it?

That's not quite the Petraeus surge but the universal "rat race" motivating men all over the world on behalf of their families. Yet, if you want to say the Surge has worked, I'd give you that, though I think it has worked in forcing us out by pre-set timetable-- what many of us originally called for, even if it takes two to three years.

Daniel E. Teodoru

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