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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:24 PM
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(PALIN NAILED at 6:00!!!!) Alaska Independence Party - Part 1
 
Run time: 09:14
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THEY say she was never a AIPer? Dexter Clark says otherwise, SOMEBODY LYIN!!!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:26 PM
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1. K $ R.
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McCainHeartsYucca Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:44 AM
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92. big website on Palin
This blog has tons of crazy stuff on Palin… http://liz-seattlespeak.blogspot.com
Like 50 thousand dollars spent on CARPET during renovations on the governor’s mansion
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/Admin/Veto/2008proj45391.pdf

also Jesus General gave a helmet tip to her today for a document FROM palin that outlines this policy

Faced with the prospect of so many Alaska Guardsmen and soldiers returning home after suffering traumatic brain injuries (TBI), Gov. Sarah Palin reached deep into Alaska's coffers to allocate one hundred dollars to teach health care professionals how to recognize TBI cases.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/bills/MHT_Report_Letter.pdf

It's pretty in depth.. anyone up to pick it apart?
http://liz-seattlespeak.blogspot.com
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:29 AM
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98. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:30 PM
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2. And there you have it - she was a member of AIP but had to quit when she became mayor of Wasilla
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 12:31 PM by hisownpetard
("She had to go along to get along.").

She cares as much about her principles as does John McCain/George Bush.

A perfect match!

K&R.
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the Sundance Kid Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:31 PM
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3. well, well, well. The hottest Governor from the coldest state is a goddamned LIAR!
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:33 PM
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4. Damn! I can't watch videos. What does it say?
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:45 PM
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7. That she is a manchurian candidate
for the AIP, in essence.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:20 AM
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97. Shouldn't this disqualify her from any kind of security clearance?
Even is she wasn't registered, her husband was. We all know by now she copied him on emails as governor. Where in the hell is the FBI on this?
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:11 PM
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14. The gentleman speaking says she was an AIP member until. . .
she was elected mayor. He then says that she had to switch her party affiliation to Republican, as they say, "to go along, to get along".

Right before that he's talking about an increase in their numbers and that they are kept track of by the state. That's when he mentions Palin as being an AIP member.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:17 AM
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83. Partial transcript:
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 08:19 AM by DangerousRhythm
Vice Chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark, says this of Palin: "Our current governor, we mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected. There's a joke, she's a pretty good looking gal, there's a joke goes around we're the coldest state with the hottest governor. And there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town -- that was a non-partisan job. But you get along to go along -- she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won't go into that. She also had about an 80% approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership."

He also speaks of Ron Paul, party infiltration tactics and how it's a good idea at around 8:28 in the video.

"The pitfalls of an organized political party, you don't have any control over who joins that party. They put the X next to it on the registration form, and if they join the -- go into the primary, and win that primary, they're your candidate, like it or not."

Absolutely frightening. So basically, they are saying with a wink and a nod that she infiltrated successfully. Why is nobody looking into this further? This is completely outrageous and is bordering on sedition, I would say. Any thinking Democrat OR Republican should be outraged at this. Why is everyone buying this bullshit story they put out when here they are ON CAMERA saying it?

And someone further down thread asked if that was Todd Palin on the laptop? I don't really know but I am thinking of producing a tighter video of this with the choice bits, zoomed in further, mainly because this is a lot of video and I don't really know if it keeps the attention of the low-attention-span voter, sadly. It needs to be spruced up (please don't use that Requiem For A Dream music though, anyone who may take this on aside from me -- not using background music is best because you won't be able to hear what's being said otherwise) and uploaded in a more compact version, with clear, accurate subtitles so people can see what is being said. THEN, the smaller video can go viral, hopefully. It should also contain Sarah Palin praising them and saying good luck or whatever she said. People need visual proof and all. :)
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:04 AM
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87. Thanks for the transcript.
Is that one you did? I salute you. :patriot:
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:47 AM
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93. Oh, I didn't do this original video... I wish! I'd have zoomed in closer. ;D
I did just finish a video you can find in my journal, also in the Political Videos section and on Youtube, a condensed video on Sarah Palin's Alaskan Armageddon.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:36 PM
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5. Contrast with this recent NYT story
September 2, 2008, 10:32 pm
Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member
By The New York Times

The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s secession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.

(SNIP)

On Tuesday night, (Lynette) Clark said that her initial statement was incorrect and had been based on erroneous information provided by another member of the party whom she declined to identify. The McCain campaign also disputed the Times report, saying that Ms. Palin had been registered consistently as a Republican.


FULL STORY: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/?scp=2&sq=palin%20independence%20party&st=cse


Now wait a goddamned minute! In this video, it's HER OWN HUBBY DEXTER who's innocently giving the lowdown on Palin. IS THIS the "(other) member of the party whom she declined to identify."????

WTF is up with THAT????!!!!
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:37 PM
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6. Video link needs to go to every single major news source NOW before it is scrubbed.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:00 PM
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12. Before it's scrubbed? Shoot--just copy the thing
I've copied it onto my 'puters. If everyone else does the same, there's no way anyone can put that toothpaste back into the tube. ;)
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:51 PM
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20. done, plus sent out a few emails. nt
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:53 PM
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34. How?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:24 AM
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127. There are probably several ways
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 08:29 AM by Wednesdays
But the one I use is a Firefox plug-in, called "Video DownloadHelper"

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006

Also, if you want to convert the video from Flash to other formats, use "Any Video Converter" (freeware):

http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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131. THANK YOU!!!!!!!
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:42 AM
Response to Reply #12
57. RIGHT...just like the Jon Stewart clip exposing Republican
hypocrisy using their own words..that bad boy is on my hard drive for as long as it lasts. Actually I think I'll move it to an external and to a data disc.

Go here to copy ANY youtube.com video to your hard drive.. http://keepvid.com/

It's easy. If a video gets taken down from youtube, there are other video sharing sites it can be put up on. Youtube is just the most well known.

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:49 PM
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111. how do you copy them?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:28 AM
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128. If you're running Windows, get Firefox (if you haven't already)
Then install this plugin:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006

It will allow you to copy Flash videos (such as those on YouTube) onto your hard drive. If you want to convert the video from Flash to other formats, use "Any Video Converter"

http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/

(These programs are all freeware, BTW)
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #128
132. thank you
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #6
48. especially KO & Rachel Maddow
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:47 PM
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8. It gets better and better....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4iCDBIAde8

Gov. Palin video message to the ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY CONVENTION, hullo????

Can you, for example, imagine (since Democrats are forever pegged as commies), a prominent Democratic elected official addressing the Green Party?

Just sayin'...
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:15 AM
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47. What's wrong with the Green Party?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #47
61. Nothing if you like George Bush, they put him in office. nt
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:50 AM
Response to Reply #61
70. Well put...n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #8
116. Members of the Green Party have no problem with their US citizenship.
The AIP do NOT want to be US citizens.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:53 PM
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9. At the very end, he talks about other groups doing what they're doing
which is infiltrating established parties to get elected. He mentions some religious sounding ones, too.
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:00 PM
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10. Palin has infiltrated at the highest level. Scary stuff. eom
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:00 PM
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11. Woah.
:wow:
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:02 AM
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125. I agree. We discussed this same video last week(!) - it's damning against Palin
At the least it shows - this story isn't over. I agree with everyone else - why would Dexter Clark have any reason to lie about her having been a member?

Palin scandal #272....and growing.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:05 PM
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13. Somebody needs to
cut a shorter version of this....its hard to have to listen to this guy all the way through.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:24 PM
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30. Just FF it...
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #13
50. Yea ...like Rev Wright... just the snippets and run them on endless loop
eom
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:37 PM
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15. That's Todd (hubby) sitting in front of the laptop, second from left- correct?
am i missing something here?
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:40 PM
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16. Here's a link to the AIP site
http://www.akip.org/

they state she was never a member...


so what's the significance here? Is she not a rethuglican? wtf?
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:57 PM
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17. nailed.
:spank:
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MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:07 PM
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18. This needs to go VIRAL!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:11 PM
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19. I've listened to the first three videos. What sp telling AIP in the 3rd video?
WHY would she tell them, "....keep up the good work" knowing that party is seccessionist? WHOA! Up the reply list we were encouraged to save this video....I'm going to try although I have never done that before. K&R
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:32 PM
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21. Wonder how they'll feel about Independence....
when the Russian military comes over. Alaska has been invaded once. Those listening posts on the Kodiaks won't do them much good.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:12 PM
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22. Seems pretty conclusive
Interesting that the AIP website claims that Palin was NEVER a member and that there was (is?) a counterfeit site claiming her membership.

Now will the claim be made that this video is bogus too?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:06 PM
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23. Did Palin ever run for office as an AIP candidate?
Something he said made me think she might have - didn't she run for Lt. Gov. at one point? This could do it, "my friends."
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:12 PM
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24. And there you have it folks! Thats how your white supremacists are going to take over
infiltrate the parties and get elected to office that way. AIP associates closely with neo nazis and white supremacists groups and Palin was a member of AIP.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #24
71. I guess it's just you and me that get it
I've been posting that ever since I heard she had been an AIP member. I even went over to the Southern Poverty Law blog and posted it, hoping they would pick it up and put out a press release. I know what these people are, I've seen them operate for years.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:37 PM
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25. The guy that filmed that video
calls himself wogsland over on YouTube. Seems to be upset that someone posted his video and infringed on his copy write He has 527 video posted over there many expressing his political views. I'm wondering if this is his way of communicating with the white supremacists?
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Dinosaur13 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:47 PM
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26. I'm getting whiplash
K&R
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Dinosaur13 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:58 PM
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27. Please go to 8:40 in this video!
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. Oh yeah..infiltrate a party....
so she did.
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JawJaw Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:37 AM
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53. If It Smells Like A Traitor...
"Ron Paul....put the Republican label on, to get elected...that's all that there is to it...and any one of your organizations should be using that same tactic..to infiltrate... I know that the Christian Exodus is in favor of it......the Free State movement is in favor of it....I don't know if they even care which party it is"


ASTONISHING!

I wonder if this footage will refresh the memory of Dexter's lying wife?
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:13 PM
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28. The speaker (Clark?) also says Palin had trouble with the Repub. party--
she didn't like their ethics. He didn't go into it. Were they too corrupt for Palin, or not corrupt enough?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:23 PM
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29. Ooohh....has this been out there, in the MSM yet??
this totally contradicts what they said....
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:27 PM
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31. 6:21 to be precise!
sarah palin was an AIP member!!!!!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:58 AM
Response to Reply #31
54. "...to get along to go along eventually she joined the Republican party"
Hammer nail
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:30 PM
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33. K&R! OK media, start doing your job.
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #33
86. The letter to the editor I just sent to TIME magazine
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 09:03 AM by Krashkopf
In a search of TIME’s website, I found links to 75 stories about Sarah Palin, including such “important" social issues as the dramatic increase in internet traffic searching for “hot” pictures of the Alaska Governor.

What I don’t find is a single article dealing with the fact that Sarah Palin WAS a member of the secessionist Alaska Independence Party (AIP). This is not some “strange internet rumor . . . cascading over the lower 48 states” as your reporter Nathan Thornburgh derisively calls it in your September 4, 2008 edition. Sarah Palin WAS a member of the AIP prior to being elected mayor of Wasilla (see this clip from the 2007 AIP convention, www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NK2sFJebGc at about 6:00); and that, as Governor, she gave a video-taped welcome address to the 2008 AIP convention (www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4iCDBIAde8) saying that she agrees with the AIP, and supports its goals!

The Republican party has nominated a person who believes that her state should SECEDE from the Union! Can you imagine the "uproar" from the right-wing if Obama had selected a member of a secessionist party as HIS VP choice!

If I can find these clips in a quick 10 minute youtube search, what is wrong with your reporters?

This is a VERY IMPORTANT news story. Why isn’t TIME covering it?

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:49 AM
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94. Good job.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #86
102. Excellent letter! n/t
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:04 PM
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35. K and R
:popcorn:
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:22 PM
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36. K&R
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:44 PM
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37. Am I missing something?
I just read the AIP platform. They most definitely support secession, but I don't see anything there about kicking out all gays, Jews, etc. The platform talks about returning the land to Alaskans, which I take to include the native tribes as well. Did I miss something? Is it somewhere else on their website, or perhaps in other writings? Can someone post a source for the "straight whites only" issue that you're referring to?
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #37
42. I think the problem is the secessionist platform, that kind of talk caused a civil war once
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:30 AM
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52. OK
But secession does not equal racism. There is a case to be made that Alaskans should have been allowed to vote upon the issue of annexation of the territory into the union as a state. It seems to me that they actually have a good argument for their case, though it is an issue that most Americans (and probably most Alaskans) would consider a settled issue by now. But it is not the same thing as believing that a separate Alaskan nation should be formed in order to exclude certain demographic groups.

The AIP may be a fringe group, but I don't see any visible evidence that they are a racist fringe group. The fact that the Palins support a group that is pushing for the secession of their state from the union is enough to me to question whether or not she should be elected as Vice President of that union of states. For her opponents to try to connect an unrelated issue to this group's agenda is nothing but a distraction.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:47 AM
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69. I agree Jane
I've seen on here that they are a White Supremacist group several times - but when I tried to dig it up? NADA. We need to stay on message and truthful to the core.

Sarah Palin doesn't want to be a citizen of the U.S. Neither does her old 'party affiliation'.


This isn't like the Conch Republic declaring their independence. This is a serious group that has a desire to not be Americans. Go figure.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:59 PM
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38. K&R
Folks, kick this to the top of the front page.

Send links to everyone you can think of.

Download it to your hard drives before it gets scrubbed!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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jennied Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:02 PM
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39. WHY don't they show this crap on the NEWS????/??????
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:05 AM
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79. 'Cause we be pwned? nt
NoFederales
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:04 PM
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117. Care to clarify?
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:11 AM
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129. Sarcasm nt
NoFederales
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:17 PM
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40. DIGG LINK .... drive it ....
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:14 PM
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120. Shame the DIGG link doesnt stress what the point of the video is...thus lower digg count
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:48 PM
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41. K& R !!This is the kind of post that needs to be sent to everyone!!! We need a lot more like this!!
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:06 AM
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43. PALIN for PRESIDENT OF ALASKA ! ! ! My name is John BUSH REPUBLICAN McCain, & i forgot the message!
i am a vet

as a vet.... i vetted sarah the soccer mom palin

she is as sound as a moose, chipper as a chipmunk, a trim as a beaver..........
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:10 AM
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44. Check out this link for more juicy stuff
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:13 AM
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45. Look at this guy, and his surroundings.
He's conducting a meeting in a cheap hotel meeting room. How many people are there? Twenty? He's a Loser among Losers, making himself out to be a kingmaker.

Honestly, this is pathetic. This is supposed to be a secession movement? I doubt they could get enough supporters together to put together a decent Labor Day picnic.

Honest, they make a small science fiction convention look like May Day in Red Square.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:32 AM
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64. He also refered to himself as an "Alaska native" -
He looks like a white man to me.
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:14 AM
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46. See, I KNEW that Whitey tape would emerge
Ooops. Sorry, I got confused by the Republican fulfillment of promise.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:37 AM
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49. treasonous barbie


"She was an AIP member until she had to become a Republican to move forward."

Koolaid drinkers whine: this isn't proof! ha ha.

To koolaid drinkers everywhere: You people are ridiculous. If this were Obama, you'd have had a stroke by now screaming and whining like you always do.

this is treason, but now, she's a republican which means she hates America, so this is OK.


Treasonous Barbie. Your party is using you to destroy America.
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DeltaLitProf Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:26 AM
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51. Repubs will say the guy's just talking out his ass
. . . and to be honest he does sound like some old coot just bloviating about how important his little group is. But if his group is so tiny, how come Palin actually filmed a supportive clip speaking to its members?

Very bizarre.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:16 AM
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59. small group, big money... nt
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GreenEyedLefty Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:05 AM
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78. 13,000 members doesn't seem tiny to me.
In Alaska, anyway. As a percentage of population, here in Michigan such a group would have 100,000 members.
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:45 AM
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55. I can only imagine
what they would do if they found out Michelle Obama was a member of a seccessionist party. Where's the New Yorkers satirical illustration for the Palin family? The media really fucking sux!
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:33 AM
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56. Hey! Glad to be able to see this. It was pulled a couple days ago due to

"copyright infringement" according to youtube.

Pulling it down now in case it disappears again. :)

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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:20 AM
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60. How do you download a youtube vid? I have Mac osx and firefox. nt
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:52 AM
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72. TubeTV for Mac OS X
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jamesatemple Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:56 AM
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74. RealPlayer!
The latest RealPlayer download has a feature that will download videos on demand. Whenever you place your cursor on the video image, a pop-up rises with the question, "Do you want to download this video?" Or, some similar question. Hope this helps.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:20 AM
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84. Bless you Newbie jamesatemple!!! DONE!
:thumbsup:
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:24 PM
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108. Get the Download Helper firefox extension.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 03:25 PM by cui bono
Go to the firefox page and find a link for extensions. Add the Download Helper and it will put a little icon next to the url address box. When there's a video available to download it will spin around, 3 little balls, red blue and yellow I think. You click on that and scroll to the video you want to save and voila!

pm me if you need more help.

edit to add, I'm also using it on firefox and OSX.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:37 PM
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109. That sounds like the best option, but "thank you" to all who replied. nt
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:43 AM
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58. Spoiled People
Sitting around on long winter nights with lots of free money to support your beer and hunting habits. Losers. Never trust a guy with a large waist and full gray beard.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:18 AM
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62. She may wear two huge flag pins around, but the lady is a traitor.
The leader of this group says that Sarah was a member, and we know from other sources that Todd was too. Can you even imagine what the wingnuts would say if both Barack and Michelle had recently been members of a black separatist political party that advocated seceding and forming a separate country for black people? The din would be deafening.

We heard Michelle say she was proud of her country for the first time 700,000 times as the media played the quote constantly for weeks (in between clips of Jeremiah Wright - BTW, have you heard what Sarah's pastor has said?). Will we ever hear anything in the MSM about the overtly treasonous behavior of the Palins?
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:10 PM
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107. That's why they're now saying that she left the church in 2002 (nt)
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:26 AM
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63. K&R
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 07:26 AM by Seldona
Let's see them spin THIS. The whole bunch of them are a bunch of kooks and liars. Scary there is a chance this liar could actually be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

AK47's and American Flag bikinis for all!
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:36 AM
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65. It will simply be ignored
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:55 AM
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73. With the untouchable hardcore base perhaps.
Not sure with the rest of us though. Pretty serious stuff to be lying about.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:43 AM
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66. Recommended, make sure this gets to Kos and all the blogs, good to keep it going
and around so truth can prevail.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:43 AM
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67. It posted twice , maybe it voted twice too, deleted by poster.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 07:46 AM by EV_Ares
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:46 AM
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68. Needs to be trimmed down to around that 6 min mark...
The public has a short attention span, remember!
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:57 AM
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75. "She was an AIP member" -- stated at 6:28
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:01 AM
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76. mc cain`s people never informed the fbi of their pick


it goes to the heart of the matter..john is not responsible enough to lead this country and sarah could not have passed a fbi background check.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:02 AM
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77. Both Palin and her husband are treasonous infiltrators. n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:05 AM
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80. Another kick.
This needs to be at the top of the front page.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:12 AM
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81. Go to youtube and vote it up!!!!
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merci_me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:13 AM
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82. Sarah nails herself!
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 08:18 AM by merci_me
As governor, she glowingly addressed the AIP. What Republican governor would address the Democratic convention, with high praise? What Democratic governor would address the Republican convention with high praise? It ain't part of the job description.


htttp://www.youtube.com/v/F4iCDBIAde8&hl=en&fs=1
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:45 AM
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85. Is that Palin facing Clark?
in the video?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:15 AM
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88. You mean Moondoggie, right? Now I'll have to watch the whole thing
to see if he turns around.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:41 AM
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91. I had meant, seated at the table
is a woman with brown hair & glasses, but she never turned to face the camera, just having her back to it.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:21 AM
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89. No wonder they want to hide the moose-lady
What the hell does this say about John McCain's judgment?
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:38 AM
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90. Written proof is needed
Unfortunately.
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:54 AM
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95. I disagree, I think this is better.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:12 AM
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96. Didn't they admit Todd was registered?
Remember, this is a fundie marriage. All the fundies I know, the man is the head of the household and makes all of the major decisions, including political ones. The wife is supposed to submit to him.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:02 PM
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110. Well, who would be the man in *that* family?
Unless Todd has three testicles or something, I'd say he's the "lady of the house". I've never seen a woman as manly as Sarah!

Oh, wait...

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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:30 AM
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99. IT'S BEEN SCRUBBED!
Video no longer available.

Well, what a "surprise". Did you guys save it?
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:04 AM
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104. Not scrubbed here
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:29 AM
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105. I'm getting no longer available there, too. nt
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Revlon10 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:04 PM
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121. Download video help
me too, I'm getting no longer available.

how do I download a youtube video.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:34 AM
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100. Here's another video of that meeting showing all of the attendees
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:44 AM
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101. This needs to get cut down
I can't watch nine minutes of that waiting for ???
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:47 AM
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106. Jedreport has a short version
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:50 AM
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103. kick!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:35 PM
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112. "All I know is that she was at the convention in'94
with her huband and sever hundred other people" Mark Chyrson AIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz7UZ1IufQ8&feature=related

Palin And The AIP: Update CBSNEWS

Asked how Palin could have been a member, when state records did not indicate Palin ever registered as an AIP member, Chyrson, in an interview with Mother Jones, backed off his account. "What could have been the confusion—her husband was a member of the party. He was at the convention. She could have been considered—it might have been thought she was a member then." Talking Points Memo has reported that Todd Palin was a member of the AIP from 1995 to 2002, with the exception of a short period in 2000 when he was undeclared.

Chyrson said he did not remember seeing Sarah Palin at the 1994 convention: "I don't, no. I was working behind the scenes. Back then I was only vaguely familiar with her. I would not have recognized her. I had just met her. I probably would not have recognized her." He added that Sarah Palin did not play "an active role in the party" or to speak out for its causes.

Not being registered as an AIP member did not keep some Alaskans from being supporters of the party and its aims. Jack Coghill, the lieutenant governor of Alaska from 1990 to 1994 and a candidate for governor in 1994 on the AIP ticket, told Mother Jones that being friendly with the AIP and a registered Republican was "common" in the 1990s. Might Palin had had a similar relationship with the party? Given her husband's long-time membership in the group, Palin was likely aware of the group's tenets. And in 2008, as governor, she submitted a welcoming video to the AIP convention in Fairbanks. "Your party plays an important role in our state's politics," she said. "I've always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well… We have a great promise: to be a self-sufficient state." She closed by saying, "Good luck on a successful and inspiring convention. Keep up the good work, and God bless you.""

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/02/politics/animal/main4409075.shtml

OK, so who's lying?
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:30 PM
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113. She was a member of the Alaskan Independance Party!!
She's a fucking LIAR!!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:41 PM
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114. Kick! Sorry it's too late to R! But I'm going to send it to all the news networks!
:hi:
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:56 PM
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115. Too late to R, but a big kick! n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:06 PM
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118. Is there ANY written documentation of this at all? With it, she's done.
Without it, it's just another Swiftboating.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:09 PM
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119. K & R
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betharina Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:03 PM
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122. kick!
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:25 PM
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123. We discussed this VERY video in a long DU thread the day after she was selected -nt
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:44 PM
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124. This needs to be exposed! Worst of the Palin scandals IMO
:kick:
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:38 AM
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126. make sure you watch Part 2. I didn't realize these were a year old. nt
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:21 AM
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130. Here's another video that's a pretty good summation
It includes some clips from Palin's address to the AIP and relevant clips from that longer video. The longer one is still important as proof because the shorter one could be accused of taking things out of context, but the shorter one is helpful in getting the point across.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Re0vmbtHK8
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:04 PM
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133. ko or rachel needs this! eom
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