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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:59 PM
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Sarah Palin Explains Why Women Should Be Forced To Bear Their Rapists' Babies
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 05:04 PM by kpete
 
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FactCheck,org has looked at the story about Palin's town charging rape victims for their rape kits and forensic exams and found that: "Unlike some claims about Palin, this one has some merit..."
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_sarah_palin_make_rape_victims_pay.html

Remember, as I've mentioned before about this story, two issues are key. 1) Sarah Palin keeps commenting on just the "evidence gathering" party of the exam, but says nothing about whether she support public financing of rape victims getting emergency contraception or AIDS drugs. 2) We keep hearing that her town would charge the rape victims' insurance companies "when possible" - putting aside what happens when it's "not possible," whoever heard of an insurance company picking up 100% of an emergency room visit with no co-pay and no deductible? These women clearly had to pay even if their insurance picked up some of the tab.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/10/factcheckorg-on-palin-rape-kit-story.html

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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:01 PM
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1. Whatever she says, I can't watch it. Too stressed out already. :^)
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:05 PM
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2. Morning after pill for rape? "Personally, I would not participate in that kind of contraception."
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 05:06 PM by Mika
She would plan ahead for a rape? :wtf: :puke:


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biggles1 Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:36 PM
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16. So, if she's against the Morning After pill....
...which works post conception, then she would also have to argue against the use of IUD's which also cause the rejection of a fertilised egg.....
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:09 PM
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3. Damn, she says everything to avoid answering a question
directly. Can you imagine a girl raped by a horribly degenerate man even having to carry a child for 9 months? I can't.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:23 PM
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28. The problem with answering truthfully is the follow-up questions she'd get
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 08:24 PM by minnesota_liberal
Unfortunately the interviewer isn't enough of a journalist to press Palin for real answers and then follow up with even more meaningful questions.

Nobody gives a damn that Palin would "counsel" a victim of rape or incest to "choose life" or personally would not use the "morning after" pill.

What voters care about is that, if elected, she would seek to appoint Supreme Court justices who would overturn "Roe v Wade" and push for legislation that restricts a woman's right to obtain an abortion and limits available forms of contraception.

I also like when Palin describes rape or incest victims as "women who find themselves in circumstances that are absolutely less than ideal." She's either delusional or a fundamentalist wacko.
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Reform Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:11 PM
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4. I wonder If Sarah used contraception when
She was doing her husbands business partner........
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:24 PM
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11. Maybe one of the kids doesn't belong to the "First Dude!"
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:12 PM
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5. forced nine months of carrying your rapist's (or father's or brother's) child
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 05:12 PM by onenote
Just put your arm around her and say, hey, it'll be okay...

Fucking lunatic moron shitforbrains.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:43 PM
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17. "Less Than Ideal" ... is how that situation would be in Sarah's view.
OMG !! Ya think? The woman is crazy ! Creepy. Wow ....
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:41 PM
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29. ditto.
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BayjanDem Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:14 PM
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6. They love the fetus
but hate the child. Randy Rhodes is right. This is...unbelieveable. The act itself is bad enough, but to deny someones right...on such a personal choice. This is kind of barbaric.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:17 PM
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7. She would encourage women to continue their pregnancy even if raped or incest involved.
Why would any woman want to be pregnant due to a rape or having sex with their father?

I know there are some women but I would think most women would not want the pregnancy to continue.
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Doodler71 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:20 PM
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8. The most important thing is that survivors of sexual assault
(including incest) should have the CHOICE since power and choices have already been taken from them. They should have the choice and not be forced once again to have their body used in a way they do not want.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:21 PM
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9. OMG "Less than ideal" that how this bitch described being pregnant due to incest
Wow what a fucking moron
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thedemocratic Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:23 PM
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10. she slowed down a bit!
I think this is the first time she did not seriously go off on a realllly bad tangent. I still do not like the substance of her answer.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:29 PM
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12. She is trying to sound like she is pro choice
Pro life is just the wrong term for these folks. They are really anti choice.

I mean come on how can you counsel someone to choose..if she against someone ever having the choice.

A pro choice person can be pro life and would probably counsel most women against abortion but ultimately the CHOICE is up to the woman.

She wants abortion illegal of course you don't have jail women for abortion you just make it illegal to preform an abortion and go after any Doc who does.

The real Question is does she want judges who would overturn Roe v Wade
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:32 PM
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13. The Old Testament reports the punishment for a man and a woman
having sex consensually who were not married to each other was death. If the woman became pregnant as the result of having sex under that circumstance the woman's death would also result in the fetus being killed too. Ummm

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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:35 PM
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14. I only watched the beginning of the video. Me, I'm pro choice
and Palin made it sound like she is too. She claims that she'd counsel that the rape victim keep the baby, and denies that any woman should end up jailed for having an abortion. I don't know... that sounds very close to my position. My concern of course is that she doesn't mean what she's telling Ms. Couric. As for making people pay for their own rape kits, I bet she never even looked at the budget. Seriously: I don't mean this as a defense, because it's akin to a crime, but I imagine somebody handing her the final copy and saying, "Sign here."

She doesn't seem evil. She seems thoughtless and simple, like lots of good ol' folks I know and who would never think of being the VP.
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gemlake Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:36 PM
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15. Why can't she answer a single question.
So annoying.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:50 PM
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18. She can't give a straight answer to any question!
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:51 PM
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19. She wants to make abortion illegal but not put people in jail for breaking the law re:abortion.?
She's an anarchist!!!

We can't have a law breaking vice president!! (again)
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:53 PM
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20. I hope I never find myself in a room alone w/that thing
She is mentally defective and should NOT be in a position of power.

Last night I watched a movie that came out in 1995 called, Powder. The lead character, Powder was born after his mother was struck by lightning while going into labor. The mother died, The son lived, but w/no pigmentation and he possessed extraordinary powers.

In one remember-able scene, a man gleefully shot a doe. As it lay on the ground dying, Powder placed his hand on the deer, then grabbed the arm of the man that shot it. Powder was a conduit between the two. Through his power, the shooter experienced everything the doe felt as it died. It freaked the shooter out so much, that he could not pick up a gun again.

If I were alone in a room w/that thing, I'd like her to feel my pain beginning w/the rape/assault and through the twenty two years since.

There is a "c" word that describes her and it ain't christ-like.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:07 PM
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21. He body language makes you wonder if she's used the morning-after-pill!
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:13 PM
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22. I'm pro-life, too
for the woman who has been brutally victimized by rape and/or incest. What about HER life?

Sorry for the caps, but watching Failin' Palin infurates me.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:00 PM
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23. "The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion"
Palin sounds like one of those pro-lifers who would suspend her beliefs if she was raped, or simply wanted an abortion.

By Joyce Arthur (copyright © September 2000)

Abortion is a highly personal decision that many women are sure they'll never have to think about until they're suddenly faced with an unexpected pregnancy. But this can happen to anyone, including women who are strongly anti-choice. So what does an anti-choice woman do when she experiences an unwanted pregnancy herself? Often, she will grin and bear it, so to speak, but frequently, she opts for the solution she would deny to other women -- abortion.

In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers' own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy

http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/articles/anti-tales.shtml
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instantkarma Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:12 PM
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24. transcript
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 07:15 PM by instantkarma
KC: "If a 15-year-old is raped by her father, you believe it should be illegal for her to get an abortion. Why?"

SP: "I... am pro-life and I'm unapologetic about my position there, on pro-life and I understand... good people on both sides of the abortion debate; now, I would counsel to. choose. life. I would like to see a culture of life in this country, but I would also like to see takin' it one step further, not just saying 'I am pro-life and, uh, I want fewer and fewer abortions in this country', but I want then, those women who find themselves in circumstances that are absolutely less than ideal, for them to be supported, for adoptions to made -- be made easier..."

KC: "But ideally, you think it should be illegal..."

SP: "if-if..."

KC: "... for a girl who is raped, or the victim of incest, to get an abortion..."

SP: "I-I'm saying that personally, I would counsel that person to choose life, despite horrific, horrific circumstances that this person would find themselves in. And, um, if you're asking, though, um, kinda foundationally here, 'Should anybody end up in jail for... um, having, uh, had an abortion', absolutely not! That's... that's nothing that I-I would ever support."

KC: "Some people have credited the morning-after pill as -- for decreasing the number of abortions. How do you feel about the morning-after pill?"

SP: "Well, I'm-I'm all for, uh, contraception, and I'm all for any preventative measures that are, um, legal and safe and-and should be taken; but Katie, again, I am one to believe that life starts at the moment of conception, and, um..."

KC: "Ergo, you don't believe in the morning-after pill?
SP: "... I would like to see, I would like to see fewer and fewer abortions in this world, and, uh, again, I haven't spoken with anyone who disagree-s with my position on that."

KC: "I-I'm sorry, I just wanna ask you again. Do you condone or condemn the morning-after pill?

SP: "Person-personally, and-and this-this isn't a 'McCain/Palin policy', eh, 'administration policy..." KC: "No, that's okay, I'm just asking you..." SP: "... but-but personally, I would not, um, choose to participate in that kind of, uh, contraception."


Fascinating.


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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:22 PM
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25. Hey, Caribou Barbie, we pro-choicers want to reduce the number of abortions too
The difference is, dearheart, we don't conflate contraception with abortion. And for the record, you imply life begins at fertilization, and us pro-science folks say pregnancy begins at implantation--all of which the IUD, the pill, and other hormonal contraceptives--including emergency contraception--prevent.

And by the way, if a woman is forced to carry to term and bear the child of her rapist, it's not just the nine months she suffers, but the rest of her life, even if she does give it up for adoption.

Sheesh.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:24 PM
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26. PRO contraception???
well well well looks like someone needs some more "prepping"

At least they fixed her hair. Need to remember on make-up LESS is more
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instantkarma Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:49 PM
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27. Contraception is okay...
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 07:55 PM by instantkarma
As long as you don't tell teenagers about it...

Contraception is for grown-ups and mommies and daddies who love each other very, very much.
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