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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:54 PM
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Free Market Voo Doo Doo Doo
 
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Deregulation and laissez-faire capitalism are to real world economics and society what Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are to rational political and social commentary- failures!

The "free market" (a key component of the crack pot political theory called Libertarianism) is a ridiculous theory which postulates that once a human being engages in business or a sales transaction- they no longer require laws to control their behavior.

I know, stupid as hell isn't it?

What would lead a rational human being to believe such horrendously stupid shit?
Well, it's viral among those who's insight and wisdom see Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity as very good examples of intelligent political and social commentary- you see where I'm goin' here?

Basically it requires the abandonment of any semblance of common sense, real world experience in business and life you have. You have to be willing to suspend reality and create a fantasy world where the degrees of wealth and power one achieves are directly proportional to their saintliness and moral purity, where the temptation to lie, cheat and steal are crushed by the magic mojo of the free market system. Makes sense right?

Ahhh, if you said no you probably also think Rush and Sean are blubbering, overgrown ever-pubescent punks that were picked on as children and wouldn't know bullshit if it wore a pointy white hood and lit a cross on fire.

Your insight into humanity is preventing you from making the leap to laissez-faire capitalism and by extension the fruitcake politics of Libertarianism.

It's not entirely a partisan problem though, the Democrats have a history of dabbling in this insanity along with wingnuts but with less effect.Ronald Reagan pioneered this idiotic theory in the 80's, helping to plunge our nation into debt. He also believed an equally moronic theory that all of our nation's economic ills were the result of millionaires not having enough money.

More recently, the co-chairman of John McCain's presidential campaign, former Republican Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas, led the charge in 1999 to repeal Depression-era banking regulation and scolded Americans like you and me for being "a nation of whiners" during the largest economic collapse since the great depression.

Just another indication of the detachment from reality of free market assholes.
It turns out that we the "whiners" are footing the bill for multi-million dollar bonuses, yacht parties and the multi-trillion dollar "reward for failure" that our government is handing out to these irresponsible, gamblers and losers.

The rotten core of this current crisis is not rooted solely in Barney Frank, ACORN and Bill Clinton, though they are likely part of the problem.

The real rot comes from flooding the market with the unregulated use of derivatives- a fancy name for bundles of financial shit put together by amoral scum bag mortgage lenders and brokerage houses and doused in cheap perfume by rating companies in bed with those same mortgage scumbags.

This catastrophic mess is the result of collusion, deception and fraud that wasn't initiated by families trying to buy more house than they could afford or community organizers helping the poor and marginalized secure home loans from Banks and Thrifts.
It was the result of greed and unregulated behavior by these white collar assholes in mortgage houses and the financial industry.

The market needs rules and regulations like any well run company or society.
Personally, I believe the opposite of the free market voo-doo.

I believe the incentive and ability to commit fraud is directly proportional to the net worth of the industry or individual involved.

Some famous guy once said "unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required." Luke 12:48. On that I agree.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:36 PM
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1. K & R
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:55 PM
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2. spot on,K&R
you rock dude! :yourock:
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:10 PM
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3. Democrats shouldn't be for more regulation... they should be for the RIGHT regulation
Don't let the wingers pull the meme that we want "more regulation" - it just needs to be done right.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:53 PM
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5. I would say an increase of oversight is warranted,
considering there is none at the present moment. It's so funny when these dipshits were blaming people who bought those houses. There weren't enough people aroung to satiate the appetites of the greedy, so they created them out of whole cloth in the form of 'shorts' on the market.

What a crock.
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teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:14 PM
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20. That is the part of the mortgage crisis that loses me...
Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 04:15 PM by teknomanzer
I understand everything about lenders setting up potentially bad loans and then selling sexed up securities based on those loans - but I don't understand how the shorts made it appear as though there were more assets that more securities could be based upon... I am thinking that I don't get it because its all based on nonsense - if someone could explain how it supposedly worked up the the point where the bullshit was discovered that would be great.
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Oerdin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:47 AM
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16. I agree.
We're not for regulation for regulation's sake. We're for reasonable regulations where as Republicans are for complete deregulation where companies form monopolies and then victimize the poor and middle class.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:32 PM
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4. Unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required
Jesus supported progressive taxation. Good catch.

Now, get with it, Freepers.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:05 PM
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6. Being that the Republicans have primarily controlled more of the National Agenda, than
Us Democrats, for the last 28 years, if there ideas where so much better than ours, why are we on the edge of economic collapse?

Their ideas are bankrupt, and lies.

Their ideas cannot, and will not work.

Their ideas are selfish, stupid, and short-sighted, and merely benefit the few over the many.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:21 PM
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7. LOL. Voo Doo Doo Doo. LOL. I know I know. Juvenile. Sure. LOLOLOL.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:27 PM
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8. WILD APPLAUSE!!!!! Yaaayyyy. Frank has done it again. Bravo!
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:28 PM
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9. K&R!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :)
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:14 PM
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10. kr for posterity, if such is in the cards
after these thugs get finished plundering this country.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:58 PM
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11. Righteous Rant Frank! K & R
"I believe the incentive and ability to commit fraud is directly proportional to the net worth of the industry or individual involved."

That sentence brings to light the ugly truth of unfettered capitalism, and no where in history was it more true than in the mortgage and real estate industry of the past decade. The incentive and ability to commit fraud is a difficult line to define, and it's certainly different for everyone, but I've seen it crossed many, many times. Greed is like a drug, and some become too easily addicted to it.

BTW, if you don't mind, I would like to cop that line for my new sig line.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:03 PM
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12. DUer's take note; this guy is good!
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:06 AM
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13. Great vlog Frank! The corporations are armed robbers saying hand your money and stop whining.>
Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 04:17 AM by cooolandrew
Any further handouts have to come with a big list of conditions.
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axollot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 07:44 AM
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14. K&R! Frank Rocks! Thanks! n/t
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 08:26 AM
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15. Alan Greenspan believed the same shit! More than anyone else, he bears
the largest responsibility for what we are dealing with now. Alas, he inhabited the same fantasy land as the libertarians, just with a hell of lot more "credibility" behind him.
We, the people, must put an end to this way of doing business. Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt were both right: markets & businesses must be regulated in a way that takes into consideration the "dark side" of human nature. Anything short of this allows said "dark side" to gain control and bilk us for all we're worth. I guess Greenspan has now seen the light on that one - arrogant asshole!
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:56 AM
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17. His description of "free" market economic theory is pinpoint accurate.
"Once a human being engages in a business or sales transaction they no longer require laws to control their behavior.

You have to be willing to suspend reality and create a fantasy world where the degrees of wealth and power one achieves are directly proportional to their saintliness and moral purity. Where the temptation to lie, cheat and steal are crushed by the magic mojo of the free market system."
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 11:45 AM
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18. Good post
K&R
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 03:44 PM
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19. I Sincerely Appreciate Your Support DUers!
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whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:20 PM
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21. i have a home
i have a home up town that i sold to my daughter , today i get a call from gmac telling me they have sold my morgage to another company , we have always been on good standing with this company , never been late , so my take on this , the good banks are buying up gmac notes for profits and not helping the 1's who are in touble with all this money jr give them to help out the houseing markets , this money was suppose to go and help out the people at rish of loseing there homes
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 07:50 PM
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22. K&R! Lazy faire is as crazy as religion and we all know how easy it is
to get people to beleive in that.
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