FDR Madison Square Garden 1936-Welcoming The Hatred

[babylonsister]

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FDR: Welcoming The Hatred
By Gordonskene Wednesday Mar 04, 2009 5:24am



With the endless drone of hate and vitriol spilling out of last weeks CPAC cabal, it's comforting (somewhat) to realize the amped-up hysteria and whining is just what history does, and does over and over. It's never civilized, it's never constructive and it is always based on fear and paranoia.

So it's mild comfort to know another President faced pretty much the same barrage. President Roosevelt faced familiar taunts and similar paranoid rants during his re-election campaign in 1936.

Here is an excerpt from the now-famous Madison Square Garden address of October 31, 1936.

"“We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace — business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering. ... Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me. And I welcome their hatred!"

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

1. fantastic

obama needs to keep his head, it will work out

[DaLittle Kitty]

19. K & R!!!

"Bring IT On!" :)

[elleng]

2. Mild comfort indeed!

How history repeats!

[Sanity Claws]

3. Worth listening to

I really enjoyed hearing the fight in his voice. I think of FDR as very charming and able to relate to ordinary people despite his other than ordinary upbringing. He had a lot of fight in him --- had to in order to accomplish what he did.

[whathehell]

18. I always remember my father talking about him that way...He was

a true hero. The wealthy elites hated him..called him a "traitort to his class".

[Are_grits_groceries]

23. Eleanor helped a lot.

He valued her judgement on what she saw around the country.

[Captain Hilts]

29. Here you go...

And she was also influential in the rough draft of the New Deal that was implemented while FDR was Gov of NY.

[Dollface]

4. Excellent. He is still right on target. My favorite part, "...[B]usiness and

financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering; they have begun to consider the government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs."

A mere appendage to their own affairs.

[Postman]

5. This speech could be given today.

[elleng]

7. SHOULD be given today,

and then, the FINALE: This speech was given by FDR in 1936!

[avaistheone1]

13. It definitely should be given today.

But no one has the cahones to do it today.

[midnight]

6. Currancy crisis. Seems like those with the money know how

to create the mess.

[FredStembottom]

8. And that crowd!

A crowd reacting like that today would probably be tear-gassed - just as a matter of routine.

[sasquatch]

11. Afraid so!

[leftchick]

9. enjoy it because that is the LAST time you will ever hear a prez

take on the robber barons. They are completely entrenched in all aspects of our so called government.

:(

[fasttense]

10. "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob."

That is my favorite line. FDR was so clear sighted for a man raised by wealth and privilege.

That is what has been running our country for the last 8 years. A government run by organized money is a mob of criminals destroying a once vibrant world economy.

[BEZERKO]

12. Goddamn good stuff!

Thanks to Crooks and Liars. I had to look hard to find an mp3 for my ipod so I can listen to it at work. You can download it here: http://millercenter.org/scripps/archive/speeches/detail/3307

[trthnd4jstc]

14. The Republican View that One Should Sink Or Swim should be viewed as Hypocrisy!

If the Republicans truly believed in Laissez Faire capitalism, then we should not have had Tarp 1, nor the several trillions that have already been shelled out by the Federal Reserve, which I believe the amount is around $3trillion, but being an Electrician, I am not an avid watcher of all news because I have to work. But, the Republicans are Hypocrites. They are evil, since their thought to us in the working class, is either live or die. They are Hypocrites, since they have rules that apply to us, but not them. There are nearly 20 Republicans from the BushCo administration that still need to be in Prison. Justice should prevail. Those that helped to bring our nation down should be in Prison!

[defendandprotect]

37. "Welfare for the rich, free enterprise for the poor."

Total bail out of capitalists is $8.3 TRILLION with $2-3 TRILLION more be requested!!

But they argued over the last dollar of the bailout for citizens .... less than $750 billion!

[trthnd4jstc]

55. Did you make up, "Welfare for the Rich, Free Enterprise for the Poor"?

[WhoIsNumberNone]

15. No wonder all "good Republicans" hate Roosevelt so passionately

[ooglymoogly]

16. KR for a perfect find for the times. JFK: " for those to whom much is given

much is expected". To bad more folks to whom much has been grafted, can't see the obviousness of this. JFK if he had not been snuffed out by those same forces would have been another FDR.

[ihavenobias]

17. K & R n/t

[Diclotican]

20. babylonsister

babylonsister

I have just one thing to say. DAM that man could put it where the truth was.. Allmoust 80 year in the past, but even today, in 2009, so true.... Amazing that man, just amazing..

Diclotican

[anonymous171]

21. That is my favorite FDR quote of all time. Totally awesome. nt

[antimatter98]

22. Of course, the industrialists tried a coup d'etat against FDR. Prescot Bush was involved.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1439357

..for the article summary and the BBC Radio 4 audio of the program.


net: it happened before and it is happening again, only this time, its a financial coup.

Also, suggest you listen to today's (Mar. 4) "Guns And Butter" show on KPFA..it will open your
eyes-- a discussion of how the banks are looting America, and Obama is going along with it.

link to today's show is:
http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/48892

this show is on each week on KPFA at 4pm eastern time, 1pm pacific.

Folks, we're being totally screwed by the banks and investment houses, and Geithner and Obama
are going along with it. Ask: how does giving 60bn to AIG help main street? Have you seen it
trickle down yet? Hint: 20 bn of this AIG bailout is going to Goldman Sachs, Henry Paulson's company.

Listen to Guns and Butter and it will make you ill to learn how the US is being looted.

[Captain Hilts]

35. This conspiracy is a non-event. It really is.

A friend of mine - a Roosevelt scholar who has won awards for their FDR book - said there is nothing to this conspiracy, and believe you me they wanted to find one.

[defendandprotect]

36. What . . . ??? Of course there was a conspiracy, there was USHR investigation . . .

names certainly came out --- leading elites ---

Someone here probably has more info for you on this -- a USHR link, perhaps . . .

cause it sure don't seem like you'd want to be chasing down any real info on this!!!

[Captain Hilts]

38. Left wing Roosevelt scholars found zilcho. nt

[defendandprotect]

41. You mean, they couldn't find the USHR hearings on the conspiracy . . .???

Really . . .!!!


Some one here will have to try to help you out -- and all those "left wing" scholars!


Here's a little info on it -- there is much more -

The committee stated in its final report that it found credible evidence of a contemplated plot to overthrow the elected government with a military coup. Nevertheless, some alleged co-conspirators (supposedly revealed to Butler by MacGuire) such as General Hugh Johnson, (who was head of FDR’s National Recovery Administration), former NY Governor Al Smith and General Douglas MacArthur were never subpoenaed.16

http://www.ctka.net/pr399-fdr.html

. . .
This apparent forecasting ability indicated to Butler that conspirators were even within the New Deal administration. Butler, now taking the conspiracy seriously, approached some of his friends in Congress and the media. The House Committee to Investigate Un-American Activities, chaired by Congressmen John McCormack and Samuel Dickerstein, agreed to hear Butler’s testimony.12

What The Committee Revealed
Not surprisingly, when called as a witness, MacGuire denied any plot. He claimed he was part of The Committee For Sound Dollar and Sound Currency, Inc., which was spearheading a lobbying effort on behalf of the Gold Standard. However, his contradictory testimony and his inability to satisfactorily explain the large amounts of money which were deposited in several of his accounts compromised his credibility as a witness. At one point he said he was acting as purchasing agent of securities for Clark, but he never produced any evidence that he ever purchased any securities at all.13 It was also revealed that Clark had sent MacGuire on a trip to Germany, Italy, Spain, and France allegedly to study ‘economic’ conditions. But records of the Committee for a Sound Dollar, where MacGuire filed his reports, indicated he was studying something more. In each of the countries he met with veterans in paramilitary groups. These were the types of groups that carried out coups and assassinations in Germany and Italy on behalf of Hitler and Mussolini. A similar group operated in France, the Croix de Feu, about which MacGuire wrote this glowing report: "... this French super organization is composed of about 500,000 men, and each of them was the leader of 10 others, and that is the kind of organization that we should have in the United States."14 Finally, Butler’s story was corroborated by Commander James Van Zandt of the Veterans of Foreign Wars who claimed he was also approached to lead an insurrection army. It was also alleged by Butler that MacGuire had guaranteed arms on credit from the Remington Arms Company. Investigation by the committee revealed that the DuPonts had just bought the controlling interest in Remington Arms.15


and a little background on their everyday tactics . . .

The main function of these hate groups was to enforce the will of right-wing corporate America, seeking to regain the political power it lost in the 1932 election. On the grassroots level, this intention translated into supporting the efforts of management to stop workers from unionizing. The most glaring example of this is the struggle at the General Motors plants (General Motors was owned by the DuPonts). The DuPonts employed the Black Legion, a sort of Northern Klux Klux Klan, which would terrorize workers, bomb union halls, and torture and murder organizers. The Legion was organized into arson squads, execution squads, and anti-Communist squads. Discipline within its own ranks was maintained with the weapons of torture or death and was strictly enforced. The LaFollette Committee found that the Legion had penetrated police departments, high government offices, and the Michigan Republican Party.23

These groups also acted as intelligence networks. They infiltrated unions, leftwing groups, and universities, and they sold their information to industry. One example of such an intelligence agency was the American Vigilant Intelligence Federation, headquartered in Chicago and operated by Harry Jung.24 Jung later relocated to New Orleans where he was an associate of Guy Bannister, who also hailed from Chicago. Banister’s Detective Agency was spying for right-wing businesses as well. Some believe it may have been in Jung’s hotel in New Orleans that the famous Congress of Freedom meeting took place in the Spring of 1963. At this meeting, with Edwin Walker and Joseph Milteer in attendance, a police informant reported there was talk of murdering national leaders.

In the Thirties, corporate America’s fear of government regulation threatened by Roosevelt’s New Deal, ("Socialism" in their minds), gave them a reason to embrace Fascism. It justified their financing of paramilitary hate groups to carry out violent, anti-government and anti-union campaigns exploiting the vehicles of racism, anti-Semitism and anti-Communism. By the Sixties these groups had become entrenched in the grassroots landscape.

The institutionalization of the military industrial complex and the national security state, with which corporate America would meld, developed during World War II and its aftermath. The DuPonts, as well as other industrialists, implicated in the attempted coup against FDR played a major role in these developments.

The Nye Committee Hearings to investigate the munitions industry were finally held in 1935. Committee findings revealed that the DuPonts were heavily invested in fascist Italy, and had played a major role in the rearming of Germany.25 According to the Versailles Treaty, which ended WWI, it was illegal to sell arms to Germany, but the DuPonts lobbied State Department delegates to the Paris Peace Conference. They finally obtained assurance from one of the delegates that their business with Germany would be "winked at." That delegate was Wall Street lawyer Allen Dulles. In addition, the Wall Street lawyer who represented the DuPonts at the hearings was William Donovan, who went on to head the Office of Strategic Services (the OSS was the forerunner of the CIA) during WWII.

In spite of the DuPonts’ illegal dealings, no prosecutions were forthcoming as a result of the Nye committee either. The DuPont family interests represented the largest holdings in the military industrial complex. DuPont built and operated the plant for the Manhattan project. They built all the facilities for atomic bomb production including the facility at Oak Ridge Tennessee. DuPont technicians and engineers ran the show; and by the Sixties the DuPonts effectively had control of the whole atomic energy industry.26

[OnyxCollie]

49. Thanks for the info.

[Maccagirl]

58. Yes there was. Google is your friend

and Smedley Butler "the Fighting Quaker" is a true national hero.

[Crowman1979]

43. Here is a newreel featuring one of those who testified at this hearing...

...Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler USMC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PUmMC5P8IE

He was recipient of the Medal of Honor Twice, but is less known as an activist for peace and Veterans rights during the 1930's. They never mention this in any war books which describe his regretful exploits.

Here is a speech he gave at the Bonus March:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWvCCxOUsM8

[defendandprotect]

52. Thank you --

kinda late -- had to fave them --

Love Smedley Darlington -- and the only way I knew about him was in reading

Gore Vidal -- or listening to Gore. Still lots of Vidal I haven't read yet

and hope to get to!

[Crowman1979]

64. Well here is a book I recommend that was authored by MG Butler.

It is called "War is a Racket." It is short, yet riveting:

http://www.amazon.com/War-Racket-Antiwar-Americas-Decorated/dp/0922915865/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236267703&sr=8-1

[defendandprotect]

66. Just saw this comment -- yes, in fact, I've had the book on loan

from library -- small red book and I photostated the pages which are in one

of my journals...somewhere!

Thank you!

Everyone should know about Brig. Gen. Smedley Darlington Butler!

[jwirr]

39. Yes this speech made me think of Prescott and his crime family. The

last 8 years they have still been trying to undo what FDR accomplished. They have come very close to succeeding.

[valerief]

24. These fohces met theyah mahster!

Love his accent. Reminds me of my youth.

Great speech.

It's evident the same corruption playbook is used generation after generation.

[Captain Hilts]

27. The Roosevelts talked like...rich people. Like Thurston Howell III 'Mid-Atlantic' accents..

FDR: Is that right?
ER: Indeed it is darling.
FDR: Well, I welcome their hatred!
ER: As do I.
FDR: Don't worry, old girl, you'll get your share!

[valerief]

44. LOL! Thanks. nt

[Captain Hilts]

65. Eleanor actually said 'shedule' rather than 'skedule'. It drove people nuts!

But French was her first language and she went to school in England...and spoke a couple of languages well, so I guess that screwed things up a bit for her.

When Einstein dined at the White House in the early 30s, soon after emmigrating, the R's spoke German at the table.

[1776Forever]

25. REFLECTIONS: The WPA by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Saul Friedman:

After looking up some history on the WPA I found this fantastic article by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Saul Friedman:

REFLECTIONS: The WPA
Friday, 13 February 2009

http://www.timegoesby.net/weblog/2009/02/reflections-the-wpa.html

Sometimes, like now, I think those macro-economists, to turn a phrase, can’t see the trees for the forest. That is, they talk in big, big numbers, and averages, and means and median, but they miss the important little things, like people.

(snip)

I don’t really know whether the great jobs programs of the New Deal got us out of the Depression. But it doesn’t matter. More important than the macro arguments, is what the much-maligned Works Progress Administration and Civilian Conservation Corps did for virtually every state and hundreds of towns in America, and the millions of men, women and children it helped during the hard times. Those benefits are still being seen and felt 60 years later.

When I lived in right-wing, anti-federal government Texas (which hasn’t changed much) it came as a shock to the know-nothings when I wrote that their beloved Alamo in downtown San Antonio was restored with the help of the WPA. And the city’s beautiful River Walk was the muddy San Antonio River until WPA workers fixed it up with landscaping, stone work, and walkways and lovely stone bridges that still stand. Today, the River Walk is at the center of the city’s life, with restaurants, shops and barges that ply the river serving dinner to tourists.

While browsing the web in search of more information about the WPA, which was renamed the Works Project Administration in 1939, I discovered that the WPA also built the obelisk of the San Jacinto monument outside Houston, which marks the battle in 1836 that gave Texas (and much of the west) its independence from Mexico.

If I may digress, I like the true story about how a slightly wounded Sam Houston and the captured General Santa Anna, made peace sitting under a tree smoking dope.

But closer to my point - that it’s the little things that count a lot - was this note that I came across from the University of Georgia Libraries, commenting on its collection of photographs that

“...chronicle the various WPA projects which took place in Georgia. The projects were the same in most all of the states and included basic work such as street building and repair.”

One such project was a beautiful, stone monument to the town of Cassville, which was burned to the ground in Sherman’s march across the state.

The WPA, born in 1935 at an initial cost of $4.8 billion, was at the time, the largest “relief” program in American history (now it’s called “stimulus”). By 1941, when spending on the coming war pulled America out of the lingering slump, WPA had cost $11.4 billion and put eight million men and women to work building 1,634 public schools, 105 airports, 3,000 tennis courts, 5,800 libraries, 3,300 storage dams, hundreds of miles of roads, sewer lines, while the CCC built roads through national and state parks, fire towers, and scores of campgrounds, many of which are in use today.

I doubt if George Bush even suspected that his weekend retreat, Camp David, which Franklin Roosevelt called Shangri-la, was built by the WPA as a recreation area in the Catoctin Mountains of Maryland. Do baseball fans know that WPA workers built Doubleday Field, in Cooperstown, New York, in 1939 to mark the 100th anniversary of the birth of America’s pastime on that hallowed ground?

The architecturally unique bridges of the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut were built by the WPA. Not until 1937 did New York City get an airport, La Guardia Field (named after the city’s New Deal era mayor), with its beautiful art-deco main terminal, all built by WPA labor.

(More at the link)

..............

Wow! That is impressive!

YES WE CAN! :fistbump:

[RBInMaine]

26. Now that's a DEMOCRAT ! Call out the scumbag R's for what they are, and bloody their F-ING eyes!

[Alcibiades]

28. We will have to dip further down

when the Bush policy of indifference to humanity bottoms the economy out completely before this sort of language will be this universally welcomed.

That day is coming soon.

[Faygo Kid]

30. THAT is what a President is all about!

I love FDR. I put him second to Lincoln, no offense to Washington.

His fifth cousin, Theodore, would have Rush peeing his pants.

[Captain Hilts]

34. GREAT to see someon refer to 'Theodore' as 'Theodore' and not 'Teddy'.

You obviously know he HATED that. I actually got the FDR library to change an ad that referred to Ted as 'Teddy'.

[LyndonDelanoObama]

31. You can listen to the whole speech

at Miller Center of Public Affairs - they have 100's of Presidential speeches

My other favorite FDR speech is his famous "Rendezvous with Destiny" Speech.

In my opinion it is THE best "defense of liberalism" speech ever given. FDR says just as the Minutemen of 1776 fought against Political Royalists who ruled without the peoples consent, the New Deal of 1936 was a fight against Economic Royalists who have bought control the nation without the consent of the governed.

Liberalism is the defense of democratic rights, conservatism is the defense of Royalists.

[NoSheep]

42. Welcome to DU!

[Earth Bound Misfit]

46. Welcome to DU

Terrific post! Thanks for the links.:hi:

[bushmeister0]

59. Watch out, don't get too smarty pants. Don't act like you know more

than the "old timers" do.

You just made a major faux pas by pointing out that there are other people who might actually know more about FDR than the author who posted this OP does (and the numerous sycophants rushing to register their adulation in hopes of not being being relegated to the "ignore" button).

Careful: They'll crush you!

Obviously, the author of the OP is a genius who actually just uncovered this obscure speech that no one has managed to uncover -- because he/she has some 100,000 posts at DU by mainly cutting and pasting and having tons of time on his/her hands-- so you'd better stop being so damned helpful with your links!

You're new. Don't mess with the almighty clique!

Liberalism might be the defense of democratic rights, but democratic rights, and free speech, at Du are based on the few who determine what is free speech. And "liberalism," especially, is a relative term, to be sure.

"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." That's the rule at DU.

Moderator, delete this post in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

[FlaGranny]

62. Moderators probably should delete it.

But they rarely delete useless posts.

By the way, Babylonsister, great post! I thoroughly enjoyed listening to FDR. My parents often spoke of him. He was a hero in our household.

[Number23]

32. What a great find! FDR CLEARLY did not play!

:applause:

[defendandprotect]

33. Good reminder that there is nothing different going on right now . . .

than what FDR faced ---

The question is do we have a president today anywhere near worthy to even walk

in his shadow?

"Organized money" --- ah . . . so true!

"Enemies of peace, currency crisis, business monopolies, reckless banking, class-antagonism,

sexualism,warprofiteers" --- !!!!

Hearing FDR speak has a way of healing you and energizing your spirit -- IMO . . .!!!

[Historic NY]

40. Great find, the administration should keep an eye to FDR on dealing

with it enemies.

[Cha]

45. Who knew we'd live

in a 21st century time so similiar to the FDR years one day?

He sounded like quite a guy..My sister and I visited his small home in Warm Springs, Georgia this summer. It's so weird to have this former progressive President's history surrounded by people who thrive on hating(not all Georgians, of course).

[Earth Bound Misfit]

47. FANTABULOUS find, Thanks!!

:kick: & Rec & bookmarked.

[specimenfred1984]

48. Why was he filled with so much hate?

According to you, we should just let the war criminals go right? FDR must have been eaten up with hate to have so much against all those segments of society. So looking back at history, have you learned anything from FDR or was it just worth a few more v-day hearts to post something real instead of posting UGH?

[NM Independent]

50. Oh, hell yes! THAT is what I like to hear from a Democrat.

That speech could almost be given today.

I hope Obama is up to it.

[Jack Sprat]

51. Government by organized money is just as dangerous

as government by organized mob. I was not even born yet when FDR died, yet I love his courage and tenacity in giving the little guys and gals an even break in society. Without FDR, I cannot imagine where we would all be.

Ironically, modern Conservative Republicans have led this country to the brink of despair in much the same ways they did in that era. If some small percentage control most of the wealth of a nation, the tragic consequences eventually impair the economic health of an entire nation. Gosh, aren't they squalling over it though? You would think that those making over 250K annually were being forced to give up caviar. I've never seen the glutiny I've seen since the 1980s. Even Raygun's tax tables were more progressive than those of today.

[defendandprotect]

53. Love the way he turned that around . . . "welcoming their hatred" . . .!!!

[Jack Sprat]

54. This may very well be the best posting

of all time. I have read many excellent ones. But this one...this one was accompanied by the recorded voice of a genuine man of the people. The corporate hoarders of wealth hated him then and their ilk still hate him today. FDR was the greatest.

[iamthebandfanman]

56. amasing how good presidents transcend time

ill always liked the speech eisenhower gave about beware the military industrial complex...

[bushmeister0]

57. Geez! Get off the intertubes and read some books!

By Arthur Schlesinger Jr:

1957 The Crisis of the Old Order: 1919-1933 (The Age of Roosevelt, Vol. I)

1958 The Coming of the New Deal: 1933-1935 (The Age of Roosevelt, Vol. II)

1960 The Politics of Upheaval: 1935-1936 (The Age of Roosevelt, Vol. III)

Governments can err, Presidents do make mistakes, but the immortal Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted in different scales.

Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference.

http://millercenter.org/scripps/archive/speeches/detail/3305

See? I can cut and paste, too.

[hraka]

60. HERE HERE

& K/R

[BrklynLiberal]

61. FDR.

[Gman]

63. K*R

[Earth Bound Misfit]

67. It's all just a little bit of history repeating...

Great singer...Great song.

:kick:

[BeyondGeography]

68. The crowd reaction is just as moving as the speech

That roar after "I welcome their hatred" is one of the most reassuring and life-affirming sounds this country has ever produced.