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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 06:27 AM
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Rachel Maddow: Lawrence Wilkerson on the Dangers of Dick Cheney
 
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This interview totally made my blood run cold... a very courageous man, Chief of Staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell, so had a front row seat for so much that went on... a "must see, " IMO... :patriot:
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 06:43 AM
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1. k&r! nt
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:06 AM
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2. Who and what kept America safe prior to project bojinka, the
planned attack on the space needle and most likely dozens of other schemes?? Not Dick, not George, not the patriot act which I might add not one single congressman read through prior to signing it. Shades of the stimulus package eh?

Cheney is a delusional fart with past visions of grandeur. Strange he should come out of his bunker now.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:14 AM
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3. Senator Feingold read the Patriot Act bill...
He voted against it. :patriot:

As for Cheney, he's defending himself, still repeating the lies, under the guise of "setting the record straight..." :grr:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:56 AM
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5. My bad Senator Feingold, as for Cheeeeney, word on the street
is he's going dowwwwwwwn. I mean, he will be tried and prosecuted for "adjusting the law" as he saw fit.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:37 PM
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8. Do you really think it will still happen at this point?
I know that there's damn good reason for sending the whole bunch of them straight to the Hague, but Obama keeps saying that he wants to "look ahead," not look to the past... :banghead:

But, IMHO, it would be a no brainer of a prosecution case because they were so blatant about the lies they told. Dick Cheney is still claiming that Mohamed Atta met with Iraqi consulate Ahmad Samir al-Ani in Prague in April 2001. :eyes:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:55 PM
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9. If you tell a lie often enough and long enough people will be
inclined to see it as the truth. This is Cheney's MO.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:21 PM
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10. I know. There are still some people who believe that Saddam was responsible for 9/11. *sigh*
My mother drives me crazy, voted for Bush* both times and listens to the likes of O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Hannity. She gives me crap because I don't watch "the news..." :eyes:

I once tried to point out to her that she agrees with Bush* on almost nothing, is pro-choice, has no issue if people are gay, has visited the Middle East, most of the world, actually, but I was unable to convince her. :-(

And when we kept hearing from the RW that we invaded Iraq because of 9/11, I took a chance and asked her who was responsible for the attack, fully expecting that she'd say Saddam Hussein. But she totally floored me when she said it was The Palestinians! Yikes! Guess that's what you get when you watch FIXED News... :crazy:
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:42 AM
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4. Col Wilkerson added to my hero list: makes two
next to Richard Clarke
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:54 AM
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6. Sorry, but I must be missing something here
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 11:02 AM by RufusTFirefly
According to Wilkerson, what did Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld do wrong?

It sounds as though their crime -- at least the way he explains it -- was going overboard and relying on faulty intelligence practices.

The suggestion is that they had the best interests of the country in mind but just overdid it.
Do you really think that Cheney and Rumsfeld give a sh*t about you and me?
Really?! That's the subtext of Wilkerson's statement.

Furthermore, although he lets them off the hook on the charge this time, Wilkerson still puts the bogus "incompetence" meme out there once again. And, oh yes, he doesn't leave out an opportunity to mention the potential for "lone nuts," a potential that is admittedly real but that completely whitewashes the systemic nature of these crimes.

Finally, Maddow dropped the ball big time because she failed to ask a follow-up when Wilkerson revealed that the State Dept. knew that we were holding a teenage boy and a 90-year-old man in Abu Ghraib. Why the f*ck didn't they say something?

War crimes were almost certainly committed. And it was systemic. You can't change that fact by citing "bad apples," "lone nuts", "incompetence" or "failed intelligence practices."

Wilkerson is covering his ass and perpetuating some dangerous American myths.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:08 AM
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7. Wilkerson just told us
what the defense strategy will be if anyone ever tries to hold these criminals responsible for their war crimes.

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