ProfessorPlum
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Tue Mar-31-09 09:32 AM
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Cheney security advisor John Hannah totally confirms Sy Hersh's story about assassination squads |
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Ignore the first 2 seconds of his response.
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Tue Mar-31-09 09:46 AM
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where that weasle republican that was on Chris Mathew's show last night. He claimed there was no credibility to Sy Hersh's claims.... oooops. Now me thinks the GOP knew all along...
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Tue Mar-31-09 10:18 AM
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The first 2 seconds are actually very telling. He says "No, there is no list" and then goes on to decribe that, yes, in fact there is a list and that it has around 100 names on it.
Why is the short answer always a lie out of these guys? Do they think we're stupid? What's worse is that after he gets through describing what they are talking about, in all honesty, there isn't anything wrong with the list in question. He's right, in a theater of war you keep a list of your enemy's key leaders and stand out soldiers and you give your troops in the area orders to capture or shoot them as necessary. Is it pretty, no. But war rarely is.
However, it is KEY to point out that the telling of the first, short lie lends disredit to what he goes on to discuss. If there were nothing to hide, or he was being completely honest about this list's contents and intentions, then he would have felt no compulsion to start off with a lie. That makes me feel like we should still be VERY concerned about this list, who is on it, and where exactly, our armed and intelligence services were authorized to engage them.
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Tue Mar-31-09 10:29 AM
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It seems more like story framers are portraying this as a Cheney-created concept. Is this really the case or does JSOC work off a government list of enemies. What I'm asking is: Is this really all Cheneys evil brainchild or was he simply utilizing some kind of squad that was already in place, created by our own government previously? And did this result in any actual hits ordered by Cheney?
I don't like and don't trust Cheney, but at the same time not everything Sy Hersch has wrote about has come true either. Many folks tend to get overexcited and gleeful over Sy Hersch claims just like all the Fitzmas disappointments that never amounted to much of anything. Ultimately none of this matters if we can never hold anyone accountable anyways.
These jokers should already be in jail for the crimes we know they committed much less speculating about the things they might have done and each day goes by we get further from holding anyone accountable.
I don't care about what Sy Hersch claims anymore. Until Sy Hersch, or anyone else in journalism-print,or broadcast can actually affect a nation like Cronkite once did- we have nothing. There are no real hard hitting reports or exposes, no follow ups, no legal recourse. I want to believe Sy Hersch, but if a reporter actually has the "legal" goods on someone then wouldn't it be more noble and patriotic to prove it and have someone arrested instead of sell unaccountable fiction? In this case, instead of 'claiming " all this stuff about Cheney(which, don't get me wrong-I WISH IT WERE true and provable) Go straight to the authorities and force legal action. Blathering on hardball to push your latest column or book doesn't count. Sy Hersch is a talented and masterful writer, and I believe we are on the same side but a loud and mighty pen does not always make a truthful one. I wish for him to prove me wrong and make something of his charges besides a froth. There's been too much of that "Fitzmas" type letdown around here before to ever let one's hopes up too much.
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