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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 03:28 PM
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Rove: Ending torture gives terrorists 'a tool to make it more attractive to recruit people.'
Edited on Tue May-12-09 03:30 PM by kpete
 
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 03:32 PM
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1. I'll say! How are you going to get suicide bombers if they think they might be tortured?
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 03:47 PM
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2. Rove
is a terrorist.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:00 PM
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3. Why is he not behind bars?
and why is he on television as if he has anything insightful to say?

Oh' nevermind. I know the answer. Dems in charge, Repugs in charge. Nobody pays for their crimes.:cry:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:05 PM
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4. Rove: Everything is the opposite of reality. Black is white, up is down.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:08 PM
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5. Rove & Cheney know so much about war & the enemy because why?
Oh, yeah, they DON'T!

What's Rove say about Cheney? "He knows intimately ... blah, blah, blah ..."

Knows intimately about what?

When their nation said they needed them to fight in Viet Nam, they weren't against the war for moral reasons, those two no-nothing hawks were too chicken and disinterested to fight alongside their countrymen.

Yet, they tout intimate knowledge? Intimate is being right in the nitty-gritty of the hell of war. Intimate knowledge would be to guard against everything those two purport today.

They make me sick.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:15 PM
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6. I couldn't stomach watching the video. But from the quote, he is admitting that torture
was used as a punitive measure to discourage the recruitment of terrorists not for gaining intelligence.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:23 PM
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8. But the anecdotal evidence shows that jihadis were recruited *because* of torture
at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere. The local communities knew what was going on well before the media.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 05:47 PM
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12. Understand, but my point was to show the hypocrisy of claiming torture was to obtain
vital intelligence and here Rove admits that it is a tool to (in their pointy minds) keep terrorist recruitment down.
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edc Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:19 PM
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7. The meme
Rove is peddling here is: "To keep you safe, secrets must be kept. Keeping those secrets requires certain members of the political class to be legally unaccountable for their actions". If Rove and the rest of the Bush son of bitches are not prosecuted, the rule of law will have literally ceased to govern the actions of those who govern.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:33 PM
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9. Can we just find a kinder, gentler form of torture?
Perhaps a thousand points of laser lights?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 05:49 PM
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13. You mean gentler that listening to Rove and Cheney? nm
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Necon-Be-Gone Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 05:39 PM
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10. Save your screw ball reasoning
for the Hague, Rove.

Torture was one of the primary reasons Saddam Hussein was sentenced to a hanging by an Iraq jury.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 05:46 PM
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11. Rove - What a completely sick motherfucking republican slime, as all republicans are, Rove speaks
Edited on Tue May-12-09 05:46 PM by LaPera
for them ALL as does the pigman & Cheney.
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BluePatriot21 Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:27 PM
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14. What was good for Saddam
is good enough for bush, cheney, rice, rove, gonzalez etc etc

A short rope to hang them until dead, on pay per view so we know it's been done right. Justice for war criminals is not too much to ask.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:57 PM
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15. They're doing a pretty good job hanging themselves
with their own words on Faux News.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:14 PM
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16. Rove's Logic
Edited on Tue May-12-09 07:16 PM by AlbertCat
"Look at what they did to our people!

They won't do that anymore! The evil regime that sanctioned torture of our brothers is rejected and in trouble by their own people about the suffering of our people.

Now...let's go get'em!"



The Cheney and Rove show makes less sense than Telletubbies.



p.s. I love how Rove just admitted we did horrible things to detainees. Keep talkin' guys!
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