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AlexanderProgressive Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 05:48 PM
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Media Matters' Boehlert goes head-to-head with Tancredo over Sotomayor on CNN
 
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Boehlert didn't even have to speak much. The CNN host himself put Tancredo in his place by providing context to Sotomayor's "wise Latina" comments and by quoting Alito saying something similar in the past.
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skiddlybop Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 05:58 PM
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1. Hot.
Work that scruff, brother man.
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hotnuke Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:03 PM
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2. Boehlert Did a Fine Job Defending Sotomayor, But Failed to Deliver Knockout Punch
Edited on Thu May-28-09 06:04 PM by hotnuke
While I think Boehlert did a better job of defending and explaining Sotomayor's statements than many others in the media have, he actually fell short on landing the knockout punch in that debate. And all he had to do in order to land that punch, was carry it a little further and rely on the actual "Full" quote that Sanchez put up on the screen earlier in the interview after he'd made his point about the context of the whole thing being within the scope of dealing with race and gender discrimination cases. Here's how he should have handled it:

"Listen, Rick, here it is in a nutshell. Sonia Sotomayor made the statement she made in the context of speaking about race and sex discrimination cases. And in light of that, let's take a good hard look at what she said. She said, as you just showed, and I quote, "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

So, she's saying in effect, that in any case involving race or sex discrimination she would HOPE that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would MORE OFTEN THAN NOT reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

She is not advocating that white males are incapable of reaching a better conclusion than Latina women. She's not stating that a Latina women would AUTOMATICALLY reach a better conclusion than a white male. In fact, she's not even stating anything at all about what WOULD happen. She's stating a HOPE. A hope that the richness of the Latina women's experiences would better inform her judgment in regard to race and sex discrimination cases than a white male's who has never been in those shoes.

In fact, she goes on to recognize that there are many cases in which white males, specifically the 9 white males on the Supreme Courts decades ago, reached great conclusions when it comes to race and sexual discrimination cases. However, she also points out that there have been, at times, "wise" justices such as Oliver Wendell Holmes, whose conclusions on such cases were, and I believe this is the prevailing thought nowadays, completely wrong. Her point being then, that she would HOPE that someone who's lived the life of a minority woman would be able to, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, better make a judgment than say...Oliver Wendell Holmes had in those cases.

There is nothing racist with that, and anyone who purports to make it so is grasping at straws out of desperation.”

That's what Boehlert should have said. I know he was working under certain time constraints, but if he'd prepared, he probably could have said something like that, had his assistants pare it down a bit, and gotten it all out under thirty seconds to a minute. If he had, the entire case against Sotomayor would have been destroyed, right there. The emphasis should have been placed on talking about the fact she said "I HOPE" and "MORE OFTEN THAN NOT". That is the knockout punch, and he didn't deliver it.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:32 PM
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5. Excellent Analysis. The right wing PUKES always take out of context and create propaganda. THEY
RELY ON THE STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE OF THEIR BASE, AND HOPE ANYONE ELSE WILL BE JUST AS STUPID AND IGNORANT.
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ImOnlySleeping Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:12 PM
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3. The Alito quote
Go to 7:04
It's quite the comparison.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:22 PM
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4. By his own standards, Tancredo is a racist.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:19 PM
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6. Amazing how such a condescending authoritarian low life like Tancredo fooled for so long
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:21 PM
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7. "...we might as well amend the constitution". What a jump thru fantasy world by a bigot
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Dakota Flint Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:24 PM
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8. oh good grief...
Typical Reich-wing garbage, take a statement out of context and blow up way out of proportion. I'm glad that the CNN guy was able to slap Tancredo down.
:wtf:
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:38 PM
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9. Boehlert should stay off TV.Loses details and comes off poorly even when right
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:39 PM
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10. It's what happens when such stupidity is tickling your rage switch.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:01 PM
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11. Standard rightwingnut M.O. Take a statement in part, take it out of context, twist it around..
...and use it to ridicule someone.

First Grade level bullying. What else can we expect from mental children?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:02 PM
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12. Kick so I can find this.
ARgh.
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