How Western media instigates the green revolution in Iran - 23 Jun 09

[Billy Burnett]

Run time: 05:18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfdHEw1nDjs   Posted on YouTube: June 23, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: June 23, 2009 By DU Member: Billy Burnett Views on DU: 677

 

[ro1942]

1. thanks for posting

Wayne m. is usually out front on world events, be careful what you wish for here

[GivePeaceAchance]

2. I don't really buy this I think the protestors sentiments are genuine. We have benn told..

for quite a while the Iranian youth are pro-western lifestyle for many years and for a while on voice chat Iranians said that there was dissatisfaction with Ahmadinejad in how he represented them globally. And how the regieme controlled their use of the internet even before the protests. Certainly, there was talk of Bush covert operations but that was a very different era. The religous leaders just can't comprhend that the world has become smaller via the internet and a new generation want a new direction free of tyranny.

[Grinchie]

3. For almost 8 years, all we saw on Media was one visit by 60 minutes

Several years ago. But other than that report, I can't recall seeing one picture from inside Iran, other than doctored photos of identical missiles being launched. I also saw some tiny boats speeding around a navy ship when Bush was drumming up wartime rhetoric.

Now, in the last two weeks, you might as well think that Iran is as open and free as New York during the St Patricks day parade. Media flows like water now, where none flowed before.

To turn on this type of volume of media almost overnight is totally improbable, and smells a lot like manipulated media on somebodies part.

I don't buy it. It's a scam. It's another western media attempt to shape a mass opinion of the people of the world towards Iran.

Sorry to sound cynical, but this type of thing has been engineered over and over again by the CIA and moneyed interests, and frankly, it's getting old and tired. You'd think that after all these years they'ed be able to do it more convincingly, but it's apparent that there is little to no skill left in the CIA. They have all retired, and the Class of 2009 is fresh out of summer school.

We here more about the Iranian election than Norm Coleman using the courts in a frivolous lawsuit to hold up the election process. We stick our nose in another country's business like we actually know how to do things other than fuck things up.

[Turborama]

4. You sound like you've been watching too much Press TV. n/t

[jakeXT]

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[RandomThoughts]

6. The guy loses all credibility when he says

"It promotes civil society but what we really see in the streets of Tehran is it promotes civil strife."

Now I am 1000s of miles from Iran and they have to figure out their own system, and I know very little about their religious or cultural traditions. Nor do I claim to know whats best for them or other people.

But I know the quote above the guy said. It is 'Order' above all things.

If you are enslaved, or oppressed, (not saying Iran is) then you should just accept it because Order is more important. This leads to 'support the status quo' and nothing else. Because any status quo that is not willing to just give up power will never be challenged.

In this situation only civil governments relinquish power, and ruthless ones continue. Think about it, if only civil systems within the government can be used, then they are taking away right to revolution doctrine. By doing that they establish power and control first.

Now I believe in Gandhi method, doesn't matter if it takes a day or 100 years, you take the rifle butt and get back up, and you do it peaceably without violence or hate. Now I don't say anyone else should do that, but personally I do not believe in giving in to wrong for the sake of 'Order' that is not just.

Because 'Order' is actually 'Chaos' if not just, because eventually it will melt down and be replaced, and the sooner it happens the better. Because if people refuse and stand up when they got a mildly unjust or brutal regime, they will stop things before that regime becomes completely unjust and brutal, which would be the worst situation.

Again, I have no ability to comment on Iran or what Iran should be like or do. They get to pick for themselves.

But I can call that guy in the video a stooge for status quo power everywhere.

If a government is corrupt, and a group or person shares ideas of freedom, then is that person advocating civil strife, or is the oppression of their own government advocating civil strife by their own actions.

To the poster that said "be careful what you wish for" Hey that was real close to the first line of the last song I posted about what I think about health care dispute. Another coincidence.