Hardball - Specter Town Hall guest Katy Abram not too clueful

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[Tx4obama]

1. She gives women a bad name!

How on earth can she not know how much her and her husband make per year?
Doesn't she read the tax forms she signs each year?
She has no clue what she is talking - she doesn't know anything about what is really in the bill (that hasn't even yet been finalized), nothing about medicare and social security, etc.
Thank you MSNBC for having her on the show --- it shows how uneducated many of the astroturfers really are!

The only reason she is paying attention to 'politics' now is because Obama is OUR President.

Get off the TV Katy and go and bake a pie!


p.s. I am a woman, so I don't want to hear from anyone saying that I am sexist ;)

[D-Lee]

26. And obviously doesn't know much about the USSR, now or before fall of communism

A bit of travel might help her know ...

Comparing that country to the US shows horrible ignorance.

[madamesilverspurs]

27. Actually, she gives ignorant bimbos a bad name.

[MrsBrady]

31. even if she doesn't pay the bills, there is NO WAY that she doesn't know

what they make per year. NO FUCKING WAY!

She's either really stupid or an operative...or both.

[SemperEadem]

39. Exacty... I can tell you that she doesn't make over $200k/year

she has allowed herself to be pimped by the insurance industry and she doesn't know which way is up now.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

95. sadly, JeffR is on hiatus, so NO DUZZIE for this thread

;(

[Critters2]

2. She complains about how much taxes she pays, but doesn't know what her income is.

So, in fact, she has no idea what she pays in taxes either. She has no idea what she's bitching about.

[CitizenPatriot]

42. she just hears her husband complain and

figures it must be bad, since it's the reason he says he's never around. "too many taxes!"

You have to have a PROFIT of 250, not bring in 250, before your life is over and you are forced to give to others. /s

[tridim]

3. Love the comment on youtube..

It's the Sarah Palin Flu sweeping the country.

[rexcat]

22. It's not Sarah Palin flu..

but a pandemic of stupidity by the religious right wingnuts!

[tridim]

23. Exactly the definition I had in mind.

:shrug:

[felinetta]

59. Who's dumber, Joe the Plumber or her? Maybe the Repubs could run her for office.

[Joe Bacon]

64. She has the Acquired Stupidity Syndrome virus

Which you get when you watch too much Fox News--You are infected by the A.S.S. virus!

[joecool65]

4. He was gentle on her

He was definitely a gentleman with her. But, you can tell she knew she was out of her league by being on the show.

[Tx4obama]

6. Civility is better than meanness -- that is how we will win :) n/t

[SusanaMontana41]

18. Right on!

Lawrence was a total gentleman. He allowed her to show herself to be the uninformed idiot she is.

Think it's time for LO to get his own show. He's brilliant.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

81. +1 n/t

[RBInMaine]

92. BUT, you have to SHOW UP in HUGE numbers and BE ASSERTIVE. Civil, BUT ASSERTIVE !

[SemperEadem]

40. her performance for the first 45 seconds

was like someone who is wading out in the water and it's thigh deep... and they're like "Oh, this isn't bad..." After that 45 second mark, they take one step too many and they've stepped into a "mariana trench" and they can't get back to the shallow water.

[EmilyAnne]

94. She's out of her league by being in the world, the poor fool. nt

[Tx4obama]

5. I want to see more of the astroturfers be questioned on TV - show them for what the are - clueless!

I want to see more of the astroturfers be questioned on TV - show them for what the are - clueless!

[AlbertCat]

61. Yes, give them enough rope to hang themselves.

[JayMusgrove]

7. "my husband takes care of us"

Does this women have any idea what she's talking about then?

[Critters2]

9. Nope. Not a clue. nt

[trumad]

8. She's exactly like a lot of repub friends that I have---

Ask simple questions and they have no clue.

[eleny]

10. I guess Katy Abram doesn't care if she has the right to vote or not

Another question she could have chuckled at instead of answering. What a fucking airhead.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

82. oh Snap! Good one, eleny

nice point.

[Critters2]

11. She doesn't want anything the founders didn't intend.

The founders didn't intend for her to vote.

[sasquatch]

57. I don't think she has any idea what the fathers wanted

[LiberalFighter]

63. I wonder where she was during her history classes in high school.

Maybe, her school didn't teach history.

[sasquatch]

65. Blowing her sugar daddy in the locker room?

:shrug:

[mitchum]

12. The founders didn't want YOU to vote, you crazy uninformed negative twit

[mitchum]

13. "I hate to have words put in my mouth" says yesterday's parrot with a perm

[Windy]

93. She probably couldn't name the founders individually... nt

[JoePhilly]

14. She wants us to go back to what the founders intended but can't give a list of what that means.

Did anyone else notice that when she asked Specter the question ... she read it off a piece of paper.

That is a common observation at these things ... regularly, the person asking the question appears to have not been the person who wrote it.

[mitchum]

16. I think she meant Joseph Smith and Brigham Young when she said "founders"

[PSzymeczek]

60. You caught that, too, mitchum!

"Well we go on missions..." She's LDS!

[mitchum]

68. Yep...she's a broodmare in magic underwear

[Iwillnevergiveup]

75. Exactly!

L-D-S

[The Wizard]

35. The founders didn't want us to have these programs

They wanted the people of means to take care of those without. Hey wait a minute, that's socialism.

[SemperEadem]

41. she doesn't have the courage of her convictions

only the vanity of her conceit.

[Dave From Canada]

15. What the hell does clueful mean?

[valerief]

20. Full of clues? nt

[NYC_SKP]

30. She was right about one thing, "Maybe I'm just not that smart."

:rofl:

[Tx4obama]

24. Clueful = the opposite of unclueful :) :) :) n/t

LOL !!!

[stlsaxman]

52. well then she better reunclueful herself!

:rofl:

[swag]

56. "Clueful" is the opposite of

"dumb as a bag of hammers."

[baldguy]

17. "Why would this be the thing that wakes you up after you were will to ignore politics (under Bush)?"

How much you want to bet she got married to an overbearing pseudo-alpha male chickenhawk Republican who puts fool ideas into her head?

[valerief]

19. Gotta love O'Donnell! That was great. nt

[Tx4obama]

21. I was waiting to hear O'Donnell ask her if we should go back to having slavery!

There are TONS of things that are much better now than how it would be if we had only the things that were in the original constitution before the amendments.

[AlbertCat]

62. Yeah... the founders wanted her to wear a corset! And own no property.

So does her husband.

[burning rain]

25. O'Donnell was really good.

Posed some good questions and let her hang herself.

[NYC_SKP]

28. She doesn't know if she and hubby make $250,000, or more, or less??? WTF?

But she knows that they have a $5000 deductible and a HSA (health savings account).

She has been prepped for this, prepped to prop the HSA "solution".

Fuck her.

:puke:

[skygazer]

33. And that they pay too much in taxes

How can you know it's too much if you don't know how much you make? Kinda makes the eyes glaze over...

[PA Democrat]

44. Maybe hubby sells those policies for a living.

[Shagbark Hickory]

29. Odonnel let her off WAY TOO EASY. Could've had so much fun with this ditz n/t

[skygazer]

32. That was just plain painful to watch

And I'd feel sorry for the poor, dumb woman if she hadn't placed herself there. She really illustrates the concept that ignorance is no excuse. I just wish he'd asked her about repealing voting rights for women. :banghead:


Edited to add - only 7 recs? You've gotta be kidding - this is pure gold. :wow:

[florida08]

34. Poor Katy

lotta heart no brain. The founding fathers went bankrupt getting this country started. They gave all they had for you Katy.
They expect you to do the same for your neighbors..do you give or help someone who has lost their home or job? I missed hearing that.

And just for the record..what Obama said was "If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system," which is not what you said he said.

Is it that hard for these people to use their brain? They respond to something emotionally but are not listening. How can you possibly not know what your income/debt is? Oh my husband takes care of all that? Well then you have lots of time for reading..try some

[GaYellowDawg]

36. It's a very typical response -

It was clear that she would like to have the government programs that directly benefit her and the people she loves, but nothing else. She was unwilling to commit to ditching Social Security and Medicare because it will soon be benefiting her parents.

What these Republicans mean when they're referring to government programs that don't work, etc., etc., is welfare, and what they're thinking of is African-Americans on welfare. The root of all of this is Reagan's "welfare queen" b.s. It's racism wrapped with economics - the Republican political filet mignon.

[SunDrop23]

37. Want it like the founders envisioned? Then turn in your voter registration card dumb ass. (nfm)

[SemperEadem]

38. what a M. F'in idiot

She doesn't even know what the hell she means when her eyes roll back in their sockets and she start spewing her talking points.

"Go back to what the founding fathers wanted"? What the fuck does that mean? YOU don't even know what that means. You're ready to snatch medicare out from under your parents?

People should take care of one another? How many families are you helping to support? How many of their children are you clothing and feeding?

I hate stupid people who can't think for themselves.

[stanwyck]

43. So, my Marine son having 3 tours to Iraq is no big deal?

She's very nonchalant about war, isn't she? It's commonplace. And no big deal.
I wonder if she gets irritated with her children if they don't do their homework? She sure didn't do hers.

[mrs_p]

45. she has no clue

nor does she really care about the real people serving the country. she only believes what she is told - no more, no less.

[Blue For You]

46. She was playing dumb. Sounds like she has been schooled

in an astroturfing class. Not having a clue about her family's income was total b.s.

[Sugarcoated]

58. I got the impression she was playing dumb

[RobertSeattle]

47. Medicare is a "Socialist" program that is wildly popular

[ScottLand]

48. I think that's priceless!

The moral here is to know what you're talking about before you talk about it! Palin could learn from this too.:rofl:

[DutchLiberal]

49. Why can't this guy take over permanently from Matthews?

If Matthews had been on, I would have turned it off after a minute...

[MrObama]

50. She makes palin look smart

[tomm2thumbs]

51. The fact that this led Hardball instead of the Rove story shows how news-less MSNBC news really is

They are losing it and turning into Fox-plus. Giving this idiot a national platform. Where is anyone's head at MSNBC - obviously in the toilet.

[stlsaxman]

54. I agree about the lack of priorities here, but...

Rove going to jail won't get HR676 passed.

on edit: besides, those of us in the know can watch the t-baggers get slain and know that behind the scenes, Rove in getting his due.

[Tx4obama]

71. tomm3thumbs

I think exposing the astroturfers as uneducated dumb-asses is a pretty important task to do right now - at least until we get the health care discussion back on track.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

90. Agreed it is important

But I dont know how important it is to give every uneducated wingnut douchebag the lead interview on Hardball night after night. Granted it is good to expose them for the know-nothings that they are, but I agree with the above post, what happened with the Rove story yesterday was very newsworthy.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

84. This story gets ratings because it is political pro wrestling

The Rove story doesnt interest people except the people like us. Bush is a fading memory for most people, as sad as that is.

[bc3000]

53. He should have asked, "Can you name 3 of these founders you keep talking about?"

[mzmolly]

55. Interesting that she took NO interest in politics until we had a black President.

Coincidence?

[JHB]

70. Perhaps it IS a coincidence. He's also her first opposition prez as a "grown-up".

If she's 35 the she was born in '74 (give or take a year depending on actual birth date). So the first president she'd remember is Reagan. Doesn't really pay attention to the news until Poppy's War when she's 16-17 (and that because Daddy had it on). That tells you either Daddy was a Republican or didn't care either -- Daddy apparently didn't spend the Reagan/Bush years complaining about The Gipper and Poppy and capitulating Democrats who let them off the hook in scandal after scandal. During the Clinton years (age ~18-26) she's probably going to college and maybe working some job (given her cavalier attitude towards the war, I'd wager against her personally knowing anyone close to her serving or who had family serving). By her own admission, she didn't care.

And obviously she continued her ingrained habit of not paying attention and was all hunky-dorey with Chim-Chim while she and hubby started their family.

So now comes Obama. Yeah he's black, but he's also the first "opposition" president she's experienced as "a grown-up", as someone who has to think ahead and make plans for more than "what are we doing this weekend?". And what has spurred her to action? Fear of some boogey-man version of single payer, the version promulgated by the insurace companies and ideological zealots.

Any Democratic president would be attacked by the Right the same way, no matter if it were Hillary or Edwards or just about anyone else. It's what they did to Bill Clinton. Hell, they even did the "birther" thing with him back then, with the equally-phoney "Clinton renounced his citizenship" flap.

[mzmolly]

74. I have followed politics since the age of 15. I don't buy into the notion

that she wasn't a "grown up" until she was 27. As you point out, the RW did the same thing to Clinton. She apparently didn't notice him?

Sorry, I think she's a racist. ;)

[emulatorloo]

66. thanks for the clip EOM

[bushnightmare]

67. "I didn't care..."

That says it all when you describe the past eight years and how we got here.

She responded to questions about wars, invasions, and any other matter with
"I didn't care".

Just stunning to me.

" I was getting married".


Nobody commented on this..it compelled me to join and let
out this small scream of pain about why I really really think about leaving this country.

The national trend of narcissism is chilling.

[Tx4obama]

72. Welcome to DU :) n/t

[quiet.american]

98. That struck me, too! nt

[livingonearth]

69. This woman has been listening to Glenn Beck.

[bushnightmare]

73. Listening to Glenn Beck??

She isn't even that worldly.

She watches whatever her "husband who takes care of her" says she can watch.

Unbelievable.

[mitchum]

80. She has been a Beck Meet up organizer since 2006...

she is decidely stupid, but not a neophyte

[janx]

76. "They don't do that anymore"

Doctors can't do that anymore because of the insurance companies.

[Puzzler]

77. Apparently she's been a "Glen Beck Meet Up" organizer since 2006...

According to one commenter:


"Mitchum9"

"She has been a Glen Beck Meet Up organizer since...2006.
The bitch is not only stupid, but she is also a liar. With a bad perm."

[BradXXX]

78. Incredible...

She doesn't even know the income of her own household? I guess that's not for women to know in the republican party.

[Lil Missy]

79. Bullshit Alert! Bullshit Alert!

She's dumb like a fox.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

83. 9 out of 10 people that are going nuts at these townhalls like Abram

would have a similar interview if asked these same questions. Completely clueless, and lends even more evidence that these people are being manipulated to do these things. They dont even know what they are for or against. Actually this was a pretty pathetic thing to watch.

[quantass]

85. +1

[proud patriot]

86. Did she complain when her money was used to blowup Iraq Children?

:grr:

[opihimoimoi]

87. Pathetic Pub Plant trying to phoney her way through

[Cali_Democrat]

88. Typical reich winger

Dumber than a box of rocks.

[Mr. Sparkle]

89. A few years in a poor house wouldn't do that bitch any harm. What a horrible person. n/t

[RBInMaine]

91. CLUELESS IDIOT WHO PARROTS RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS. THAT'S ALL.

[drm604]

96. Talking points

The stuff about "what the founders wanted" and "I wasn't interested in politics before this" are bullshit talking points. That's why they fall apart when she's questioned about them. She's most likely been interested in politics for years, but once you say something like "I wasn't interested before this" you've dug that hole and you're stuck with having to explain your apathy up till now when the truth is that you haven't been apathetic. You end up looking like either a vacuous fool or a liar.

What O'Donnell did here is the perfect way to kill this particular talking point (and most other talking points). Call them on it. Require some detail. Then watch them stumble around looking for an answer.

[Tx4obama]

97. Kick n/t