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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:09 PM
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Penn Jillette- Is Dissent Still Patriotic?
 
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Libertarians are a strange breed.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:34 PM
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1. Only when you've got a real reason Penn.
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 12:35 PM by YOY
and I do mean a REAL FUCKING REASON before you shout your "FUCKING REASON" at all of us.

Now go back to defrauding the Televangelists...I like it when you do that.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:58 PM
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12. Of course it is, we just changed the definition.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:35 PM
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2. Penn Jillette has been a right winger since he became fat nt
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:37 PM
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3. Penn Jillette Talks Libertarian with Glenn Beck
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:39 PM
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4. American Libertarians are right wingers - you can't be a lib and want corporations to screw the
middle class and working poor.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:41 PM
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5. You'll get no argument from me.
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 12:41 PM by ihavenobias
The only redeeming value that (most) libertarians have is that they're more reasonable on social issues (and things like imperialism and the fed), unlike social conservatives.

Then again Ron Paul (for example) is NOT pro-choice.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:44 PM
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7. Yep - if someone stands for things that benefit the mega-rich and hurt the poor and middle class
I consider that person a rightwingnut. I don't care if they prefer to call themselves libertarian.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:08 PM
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17. Well, there are those of us who identify as left-libertarian, but we don't get a lot of press...
We're the ones who aren't so caught up in ideology that we can't recognize that in many cases "collective action" increases personal freedom, whereas "individualist" reforms that effectively add up to "freedom of the most ruthless" to prey on everyone else decreases personal freedom.
It's not freedom if you have to spend all your time watching your back.


If Penn thinks "small government" is so swell, let him try to enforce his own copyrights on his material, or resolve it himself when someone doesn't pay him what they agreed to in contract.


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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:18 PM
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8. Can't see the penis, vote republican....
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:22 PM
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19. I caught an episode of Penn & Teller on cable. It was a pathetic attempt
at right wing humor. The episode I saw was an anti-tax puke-fest and featured Dick Armey and Grover Norquist. He's about as funny as an STD.
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SolidGold Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 02:58 PM
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23. to be fair....
Edited on Fri Aug-14-09 02:58 PM by SolidGold
To be fair his show, bullshit - is actually really good. The problem is Penn is a libertarian and thinks any tax is a bad tax.

The tax episode was immediately deleted from my dvr. The other episodes of this show aren't as biased or driven by Penn's hate for taxes.

He does seem like a greasy dick on youtube though.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:43 PM
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6. This is NOT dissent
This is:
White males afraid of losing power.
Whiners who lost an election.
Idiots working against their own best interests because Glenn Beck tells them to.
Corrupt politicians who work for big pharma, big business, big oil instead of their constituents.
Racist assholes who can't handle the reality of a black president.
War mongering chickenhawks who are afraid of losing their gravy train.
Evil people who can't even finish their own job but feel they can criticize the job someone else is doing.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:36 PM
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9. of course he calls it dissent, because he wants to legitimize these phony mobs
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 01:51 PM by fascisthunter
filled with ignorant folks who don't know what they are talking about.

It isn't dissent. And he knows it too... that arrogant fat head
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:54 PM
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10. it was posted back in February, before these mobs or even the teapartiers
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:08 PM
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14. ooops... you are right
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 02:09 PM by fascisthunter
funny how relevant it is to our present topic of town hall mobs
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:54 PM
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11. Fuck that piece of shit.
This is the same goddamn buffoon who believes the Lee Harvey Oswald myth because he saw some idiot shoot a watermelon. Has all the critical thinking abilities of a mentally impaired slug.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:06 PM
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13. I remember that one....
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:11 PM
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15. Is it still patriotic to be one of the most obnoxious buffoons on the planet?
Of course it is.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:12 PM
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16. Dissent is still patriotic ... blind obedience still isn't ...
but shouting down someone who actually will try to answer an honest question, or is actually addressing the question you are asking (but not listening to the answer) ...

is acting stupidly ... at best ...
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abelenkpe2 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:16 PM
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18. Sis claims to be a libertarian
She's a high school dropout D student idiot. 'Nuff said.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:33 PM
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20. Dissent is patriotic but the fucking lies you promote, penn,
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 09:34 PM by Cha
are just a bunch of time wasting bullshit..and if you're not smart enough to know that then "fuck you".
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:35 PM
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21. No wonder I never thought he was funny.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 12:46 PM
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22. Yes, even dissent against fraud and trickery used in dissent.
He should stick to exposing the fraud and trickery in magic. His current gig as a Political Illusionist doesn't suite him well. His frauds and trickeries in this Field will be exposed just as easily. When the audience has figured out that what he's conned them out of is not the price of admission but health care instead. The backlash will be severe.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 07:22 PM
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24. Can't really tell the difference eh?
That pretty much exposes his lack of knowledge when it comes to politics.
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