Michael Moore vs Sean Hannity Part1

[Ruby the Liberal]

Run time: 06:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5YOIUpLpLI   Posted on YouTube: October 07, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: October 07, 2009 By DU Member: Ruby the Liberal Views on DU: 4259

 
Watching for uploads - I don't know how many there will be but will edit to update. Total segment was 30 minutes (less commercials).

[valerief]

1. Thank you! nt

[debbierlus]

2. Actually, this segment just is Hannity pounding Moore for making money off his movies

I take it that it gets much better from here, so before mass recommending, wait for a stronger segment to rate up to the top of the page.

[Ruby the Liberal]

4. Yep - Mike was just about to hand it to him about the wars when it cut off

Funny that given thats when it got rockin'. :eyes:

[debbierlus]

6. If you look at the title of the video from the poster...

'Hannity confronts Moore over capitalism'

I don't think this person is a Moore supporter or a liberal. And, I wouldn't look for the rest of the videos from this poster. Hopefully, another source will come up.

[Ruby the Liberal]

7. Indeed. Why I changed the stupid title.

[orpupilofnature57]

3. He had to correct him on the very first thing ,I can't believe it ,Thank You!

[Big Orange Jeff]

5. I love how he caught Hannity lying about going to mass on Sunday.

nt

[myrna minx]

10. Heh. I enjoyed that too.

Welcome to Du, Big Orange Jeff. :hi:

[Pharaoh]

8. I Love

Michael Moore,

Hannity is such a wad..........

[hmorehead]

9. Hannity spends a lot of his time trying to pound

someone who in the end kicks his butt.

[myrna minx]

11. I can't wait to see the rest o the interview.

While I'm being impatient, I want to let those who take the time to upload videos, how much I appreciate what they do. :pals:

[Ruby the Liberal]

12. May have to wait for Michael to upload them

The Freeper that uploaded the one I added cut it off just before Mike took over and hasn't added any more segments. *yawn*

[myrna minx]

14. Oh, I know we'll have to wait *kicks gravel around*.

Obviously the breathless freepers would cherry pick what was uploaded - in a pathetic attempt to claim a victory.

While we wait for the rest of the interview, here's a video of a monkey washing a kitty cat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkviIYKjPyw

:hi: A belated welcome to DU, Ruby.

[Ruby the Liberal]

18. I *LOVE* that clip.

:D

Thanks for the welcome! Actually returning from a post-2004 self-imposed political hiatus. Glad to be back with you fine people. :hi:

[myrna minx]

34. Uff-da, 2004. Ha.

Well, since you're familiar with us already, I'll just welcome you back to our big, messy, awkward, ongoing thanksgiving dinner. :hi:

[Ruby the Liberal]

35. Deaniac reporting for dinner!

:patriot:

[myrna minx]

37. LOL - Ruby, you rock!

Damn - those were brutal primary days, weren't they? Welcome back. I adore Howard Dean and his 50 state strategy. :loveya:

Yyyyeeeeaaawwww.

[Ruby the Liberal]

38. Shit - put me into a 5 year internet hiatus!

Knocked countless doors in 2007-8 and constantly fought the urge to get sucked back into the DU quicksand.

Lost my job + too much time on my hands = I go back into default mode.

LOL!

Good to meet you, or if I knew you back then, good to see you again! :toast:

[myrna minx]

39. I'm sorry you lost your job.

I know so many who are in the same position. I'm grateful to still have mine. I know how fortunate I am.

I *do* know that even when I take time away from here (for my mental health)- I always come back. While at times I don't recognize this place, I understand it's the nature of the ever evolving online communities (for both good and bad). Again, welcome back. :toast:

[Ruby the Liberal]

40. Thanks!

I forgot how addicting this place can be.

:toast:

[jefferson_dem]

13. All videos are up on FauxNews website if folks are interested -

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=10436845&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749

[Bjorn Against]

15. I would advise people to wait until it is uploaded on YouTube

I know you mean well, but I have to ask that people do not follow your link. When you watch a video on Fox's site they receive ad revenue, but if you wait until it hits YouTube as it inevitably will Fox will get no ad revenue. I think you can agree that we don't want to be funding these people especially when we can get the exact same thing without giving them a penny, so please wait until the full video hits YouTube.

[jefferson_dem]

19. I hear ya but it's no biggie to me.

If the full video was available on youtube, I would have posted a link to that.

Then again...I don't wig out at traveling to FauxNews for video of Moore smacking Hannity around. The end is really funny - Hannity is plum out of his talking points and just starts blabbering...

[Bjorn Against]

22. I believe you that it is good, but I think I will be seeing it soon enough on YouTube

[Ruby the Liberal]

23. They get ad revenue if you click the ads. Otherwise it is a cost to them.

[Bjorn Against]

27. Is it like most other news sites in that an ad automatically plays when you start the video?

[Ruby the Liberal]

30. It didn't for me. Firefox?

It also switched from video 1 to 2 without me intervening (and no ad). Relistening to #2 now, #3 may be different.

[Ruby the Liberal]

33. My bad - ad popped up between 2 &3

[Ruby the Liberal]

16. Thanks! Here are the 3 links:

#1 http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=10436862&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/

#2 http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=10436862&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/

#3 http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=10436862&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/

The YouTube uploads are cutting out all the good parts. :/

[Bjorn Against]

17. Give people some time to get it uploaded

The Freepers will cut out the good parts, but no doubt someone on our side is going to get them up. Please don't go to the Fox website, we don't want to give them any ad revenue. Give people a couple of hours to get the videos loaded on YouTube where we will be able to watch the same thing without funding Fox.

[Ruby the Liberal]

20. I am just ticked that the links so far ALL cut the war convo.

That was the reason I opened the last thread. Michael handed it to him on that.

[jefferson_dem]

24. I guess you have a problem with Moore going on Faux to begin with then.

Since he might generate ratings and ad revenue for them. :shrug:

Sorry, i'm no purist.

[Bjorn Against]

25. No I have no problem with him going on if it gets his message across

I am suggesting that people wait a few minutes so we can deprive them of additional ad revenue, is it really that difficult to wait?

I am not a "purist" either, I am just a person who does not want to give FOX a penny.

[Ruby the Liberal]

29. See above. Click ad - revenue. Listen and no click ad = cost

His message definitely gets across. You will not be disappointed. :hi:

[Bjorn Against]

32. Does an ad automatically play when you start the video?

That is what happens on most corporate news sites, if they require you to watch an ad before viewing the video they get revenue.

Trust me I believe you it is good, I am just being patient. If it isn't up by tomorrow then I will watch the FOX link but I don't think I am going to need to because I am almost certain it will be on YouTube.

[Ruby the Liberal]

36. It didn't on the first two, but did on the switch from vid 2-3.

Blah.

[AsahinaKimi]

21. I watched the whole thing...

First of all I hated going to Fox News..figured they would doctor the interview to make Michael Moore look foolish but Hannity didn't want to answer Moore's direct questions, and you could see that Hannity was trying to catch
Moore in one of those "gotcha" traps..

didn't happen. MM is way smarter then Hannity. If any one was the fool, it was Sean Hanity.. and maybe
Michael Moore going on his show to plug his movie. No one who is a constant follower of Fox News would
pay money to see a Michael Moore Movie.

Just sayin'

[Ruby the Liberal]

26. I can't edit the OP. Links to full interview in post 16. War dismantling in segment 1 (of 3)

This is on Faux' site, but the YouTube versions so far are edited cut out the war discussions.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

28. Cut off just as it was getting good.

[Ruby the Liberal]

31. Cut off just as Michael was going after Iraq. See unedited links in post #16

[Egnever]

41. Wow utter devastation!

Thanks for posting it.

[Joe Chi Minh]

42. In future, Mike should proclaim from the roof-tops that the difference between Hannity,

a rich man, and himself, as a rich man, is that he, Hannity, does not want the current, economic structures changed, in order for the general public to be able to share in the country's wealth. He, Michael Moore does. He does not see it as being against his own best interests, in view of the Second Commandment. Hannity, on the other hand, is well described by Smith as one of those who want: "All for ourselves, and nothing for other people." Mike should have pointed out to Hannity that he was only echoing the theme of the Pope's most recent encyclical, Caritas in Veritate.

Charitable donations are all well and good but it is the extremely unjust, economic structures which need to be changed, as Pope Benedict advocates. Otherwise, to quote Jesus, it is "straining at a gnat, only to swallow a camel". Hannity or a clone will then come back, raving about Communism - to which Mike should respond with a reference to the famous quote of the late Archbishop of Recife, Brazilian, Dom Helder Camara: "When I give to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are hungry, they call me a Communist." Moreover, the Vatican hardly has a reputation as a pillar of left-wing politics.

Then he should summarise very pithily the points Smith made about income tax and the wealth of the country being equitably shared.
Not so that everyone should earn the same amount. That's not necessary. What is necessary is that people should have an ample sufficiency, so that they can live with dignity and have some disposable income. The absence of the latter has been one of the main causes of the man-made credit bubble and economic depression.

Below, is an extract from an article by Rick Wilson in Common Dreams concerning Adam Smith's precepts on this subject:

"First, while he (Smith) celebrated truly competitive capitalism, he didn't trust capitalists very much. Consider these quotes:
· "All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind."

(snip)

Second, he believed that workers deserve a living wage:
· "It is but equity ... that they who feed, clothe and lodge the whole body of the people, should have such a share of the produce of their own labor as to be themselves tolerable well fed, clothed and lodged."

Third - and here's a real shocker - he believed that the wealthy should pay more in taxes:
"The subjects of every state ought to contribute toward the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state."
Fourth, he believed in the necessity of public investments in infrastructure and public goods. He spoke of the duty of government to support "public institutions and those public works, which, though they may be in the highest degree advantageous to a great society, are, however, of such a nature that the profit could never repay the expense to any individual or small number of individuals, and which it therefore cannot be expected that any individual or small number of individuals should erect or maintain."

If he were alive today, he would probably consider education and health care as examples of this kind of public goods.

Smith and his Scottish Enlightenment allies were not ideologues and were better psychologists than those today who view humans as organic calculating machines. They were pretty, well, enlightened. They recognized that a good society and a healthy capitalist economy depended on a shared prosperity."

Mike should proclaim from the roof-tops that the difference between Hannity, a rich man, and himself, as a rich man, is that he, Hannity, does not want the current, economic structures changed, in order for the general public to be able to share in the country's wealth. He, Michael Moore does. He does not see it as being against his own best interests, in view of the Second Commandment. Hannity, on the other hand, is well described by Smith as wanting: "All for ourselves, and nothing for other people."
Well, except for the odd charitable donation evidently not in any way comparable to what the Pope and Adam Smith had in mind.

[KansDem]

43. I wish Moore would have corrected Hannity when Hannity tried to equate Moore's success...

...with "capitalism." Then Sean says Michael would have been killed if he tried to do the same thing in Cuba...

Bullshit!

Hannity is mixing up economic systems with political systems. Moore's success wasn't due to "capitalism," but rather "democracy." Moore succeeded because of his First Amendment right to "free speech." Now, if Hannity wanted to argue that he wouldn't have this right in Cuba, so be it, but I'm f**king sick and tired of "capitalists" making claims of "success" that are the results of democracy.

[jacksmind]

44. Moore can't debate

Look this keeps coming up about him and Capitalism. How well you do in ANY system is not correlated with how ethical that system is! Moore you need to say this: "If I was pro-capitalism, and I did really well for myself in a democratic communist state (say a rich Venezuela), tricking the government to give me money to produce something that argued against them, and then some commrade Hanity came up to and asked me, 'How can you say these things about communism, the state considers you a great artist, the state gave you lots of money to make these movies, communism has made you well off!?' that doesn't mean make the system ethical!"