Raw Video: Heene Neighbor Fights With Media

[Joe the Liberal]

Run time: 01:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvq-8ji9hU0   Posted on YouTube: October 19, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: October 21, 2009 By DU Member: Joe the Liberal Views on DU: 2716

 
A fight broke out between a neighbor of the Heene family and some members of the media on Sunday. Richard Heene is expected to face charges this week of perpetrating the balloon boy hoax last week to promote a reality show. (Oct. 19)

[tomm2thumbs]

1. so the guy in yellow & his network just bought himself a nice lawsuit

how nice - I hope he enjoys court

[democracy1st]

8. yep ol baldy will be ridin dirty next month !

[Ysabela]

2. Title is misleading. Should be: "Paparazzi ASSAULTS local man" n/t

[MrModerate]

5. I'm no lawyer, but the neighbor sure looked like he was assaulting . . .

the media guy who'd done no more than point a camera at him. And then the media guy's colleague took down the neighbor "mid-assault."

This will probably end up in court, but only the lawyers will get rich.

[Gman2]

6. That is the most chickenshit analysis I have ever heard.

[MrModerate]

7. And that's the most incomplete insult that's ever been tossed . . .

halfway towards me, falling several feet short.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

10. Media guy in the yellow put his hands on him first

he is going down, plain and simple.

[MrModerate]

11. Maybe, but I don't think so. I saw the neighbor in physical contact with the first media guy . . .

Before the second one took him down. Also, assault doesn't require a blow. The neighbor was way past the point of "aggressive" at that point.

But like I said, this one is going to buy some lawyers an extra room on their time-shares in Tahoe. The neighbor is not going to end up with squat.

IMO.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

13. I dont know I always thought that whoever puts hands on someone first is liable

It is harder to prove if the bald guy was just being overly aggressive and approaching the other guy. I didnt see the bald guy put his hands on anyone. But yeah the lawyers are going to get very rich on that one.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

28. You don't need to touch someone to assault them.

Yellow shirt guy aside, the bald guy was clearly assaulting the person on the cell phone. Furthermore, bald guy was in his truck when he decided to jump out and assault phone guy. What will be his legal defense for said assault? His statement he was "about to get in a fight with twenty guys" won't help his case either.

AT least yellow shirt guy can claim he was stopping an assault and/or battery. Bald guy has no excuse to exit his truck and assault phone guy except that he was irritated with media in front of his house.

It's not a cut and dry case but bald guy certainly set in motion the violence that took place.

[JDPriestly]

30. Never attack someone who is poorer than you. You will definitely get

the bad end of things. At best, someone will probably lose his job.

[hmorehead]

22. No hands, no profanity = no assult. Mr Moderate, my butt.

[MrModerate]

33. You seem to have . . . issues. Is there a crowd of paparazzi in *your* front yard? n/t

[hmorehead]

35. My issue is whether the man was attacked by the "paparazi" or not, is your point

that its OK to assult people under the cover of *freedom of the press*? and what IS your thing with astralix avout?

[MrModerate]

37. And "astralix avout" is what? With regard to the video . . .

My point is that it's far from certain that the yellow-shirted guy was entirely wrong.

What I saw on the tape was the neighbor clearly on the verge of losing control, ordering the crowd of paparazzi around (if they all *were* paparazzi), even the ones clearly not blocking his way, and making a call to someone (the police?) suggesting that he was about to be attacked by 20 people. Which wasn't happening.

Then there's a cut to a new scene and the grey-shirted media guy (if he's a media guy) points a camera or cell phone at the neighbor's car window, at which point the neighbor boils out of his truck in a fury and chases the grey-shirted guy around a vehicle in a very threatening fashion. I've watched the tape a couple of time, but I'm still not sure whether the neighbor actually touches the grey-shirted guy, but even if he doesn't, he uses his hands as if to touch the guy and definitly uses assaultive language.

I'd say the neighbor was probably guilty of assault (repeat of original disclaimer: I'm no lawyer, or for that matter, a peace officer).

At the point where the grey-shirted guy really starts to cower from the neighbor, the yellow-shirted guy flies into the scene and tackles the neighbor from behind, wrestles, asks for the guys standing around to help, doesn't really get it, and then gets punched a few times by the outraged neighbor before the fight breaks up.

While there's no way to be sure, it didn't seem as if the yellow-shirted guy thought he was exercising his First Amendment rights by tackling the neighbor. Instead it looks a hell of a lot like he was trying to protect a colleague who was being assaulted -- and was about to be battered -- by an out-of-control person.

The yellow-shirted guy gets the That Was Fucking Stupid Award. The neighbor gets the Boy You're A Real Dickhead Award. The lawyers get a juicy case to fill out their monthly billable hours requirements.

[raystorm7]

18. Why you would fail as a Lawyer. Its so damn obvious the media assaulted him first,. *rolls eyes*

[MrModerate]

32. Well let's just see how this plays out and see if it's as obvious as you think. n/t

[JDPriestly]

29. Actually, unless the guy in the yellow shirt wins, not even the lawyers get rich.

The bald guy looks like an ordinary guy -- not much money there. I don't know who started the assault, but the number of news trucks seemed excessive to me. I'd be very annoyed if news trucks blocked my street like that. I don't think I would approach the situation like the Heene neighbor did though. Best to stay calm. The Heene neighbor should have called the police before just trying to remove the obstacles himself.

[MrModerate]

34. Right. The paparazzi are verminous and ghoulish, and the neighbor is a dickhead.

A volatile combination.

[MichaelHarris]

3. yup

media guy will be paying for that one.

[Enrique]

4. boys

:eyes:

[Ganja Ninja]

9. It looked to me like nobody touched anybody until the media guy

jumped on the bald guy's back. He's probably got a good case for a lawsuit.

[bertman]

20. Correctomundo, Ganja Ninja.

[Joe the Liberal]

27. I think the guy in the yellow shirt.......

thought everyone would jump in and help him out right after he jumped the guy, what a coward. He thought he would be the "responsible adult" instead he made the situation worse like a complete jackass.

[era veteran]

12. Media

Yellow shirt should be charged with assault. Looks like bald dude just trying to get home.

[tomm2thumbs]

14. it'll be a local court, a local jury, and a not-so-local media guy

you decide who they are going to side with..

[Fiendish Thingy]

15. Bald guy is guilty of assault (physically threatening), both are guilty of battery. n/t

[vaberella]

24. What the bald guy did wasn't assault to the guy on the cell phone.

He used his height but didn't touch the guy. That's like saying angrily cussing at someone is an assault. It's not. If he didn't touch the guy there was no crime committed..which he didn't. The guy in the yellow jumped on him from behind and that is assault and him punching the guy could easily be seen as self-defense.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

38. Contact isn't required for assault.

Threat of contact or "show of force" can be an assault. Some states will refer to it as "menacing"

[Fiendish Thingy]

39. assault is often confused w/battery

maybe the language in the laws varies from state to state, but in CA battery involves physical contact, assault doesn't have to. For instance, if you swing at someone and miss, that could be assault. The bald guy was approaching the cell phone guy in an aggressive manner, and appeared to be raising his arms when he was tackled.

Does anyone know if charges have been filed against either one?

[JDPriestly]

31. It all depends. You never know what the outcome will be once a court is involved.

Courts mean judges and juries and evidence and the results are never 100% certain.

[tybunny]

16. I enjoyed watching a member of the media take a punch

This is the most open and shut case of assault I've ever seen. The guy in the yellow shirt jumped a man from behind because he was expressing anger at their intrusive and impolite behaviour. When he was expressing his anger, and absolutely not putting his hands on anyone, some a** jumps him from behind, and NO ONE helps the neighbour escape this assault. When the neighbour finally wriggles free, he gets three good shots in at the jerk who attacked him FROM BEHIND. I actually cheered out loud when I saw the first blow contact yellow-shirt's face.

I'm a pacifist by nature, and would never condone assault, but self defense is completely fair. The neighbour used appropriate force to free himself, and that couldn't have gone better.

I hope yellow shirt got a busted nose for his troubles, and oh yes...a costly lawsuit. It would serve the media right if citizens started treating them like the scum that they are. Cable news employees are below lawyers nowadays, and we should let them know we've had enough of them.

GOOD FOR YOU, neighbour guy! I'm on your side.

[Hyper_Eye]

17. The media has likely been making life impossible for the Heene neighbors for days.

I would be fed up too. They should have respect for the people that own property there and live there. Get the hell out of this guys way. His convenience and easy drive home are priority number 1. All he wants to do is drive down his street. The guy in yellow jumped him. He didn't lay a finger on anyone until the guy came up behind him (like a pussy I might add) and jumped on him. What a bitch move. I'm with this guy 100%. When the media finally leaves he should let the Heene family know why they are on thin ice in that neighborhood as well.

[tomm2thumbs]

19. this is why you always wear a backpack with a big pointy knife in it

oh dear, did you just jump on my knife? sucks to be you

[FluxRostrum]

21. why aren't any of those so called journalists covering a real story

yellow man assaulted the neighbor a deserved much more than a few blows to the skull

None of these Fake Journalists sucking from the corporate tit should be there in the first place.
They are aiding and abetting the mass distraction of the country from Real Stories of Importance.

This started as a missing child, then went to is it a hoax, ok so it's a hoax, why are they still covering it? The corporate media has NOT been duped. They are intentionally creating a distraction from the WARs, They Economy, The Foreclosures, The destruction of our environment, the corruption in Washington, the deadly flu vaccines .... etc etc.

Please stop paying any attention to these OBVIOUS distractions.

[vaberella]

23. I hope this goes viral. That guy in the yellow was out of control.

That was a straight up attack. He deserved that punch and a lawsuit.

[Ganja Ninja]

25. It was on HuffingtonPost yesterday. n/t

[elmerdem]

26. I don't know

but it seemed like the guy that the neighbor was mad at in the first place made a stupid move toward the truck again & then turned coward with the 'just going to the van' excuse. I also thought it was cute that the yellow shirted guy was asking for help after assaulting the dude from behind, fucking coward.

[t0dd]

36. I like how the guy in gray tries to hump both of them for a few seconds around 1:00 nt

:rofl: