O'Donnell: 'Cheney was a proven liar!' - digs deep under Scarborough's skin

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Mika on Morning Joe takes strong issue with Dick Cheney's attacks on the administration. Cheney says that the administration is pointing the guns back at our own troops instead of at our enemies. O'Donnell and Scarborough engage in a 'debate' on what Cheney was doing in the White House during the invasion of Iraq. Cheney claims Obama is dithering when, as Mika puts it, Cheney shouldn't be talking when he dithered for years on the war.

O'Donnell goes on later to boldly say 'Cheney was a proven liar' and uses George Bush's own comments about the invasion to knock Joe out of the water. Great stuff.

[BeyondGeography]

1. Scar can't accept that Cheney was and remains an inept, scheming, lying sack of shit

Points for O'D for continually emphasizing "wild guess." These Pubs can't deal with the facts of their own irresponsibility; you must keep hammering away.

[tomm2thumbs]

2. +1 exactly - the truth hurts

[Lerkfish]

3. I never watch this jerk, but his obvious tactic is to scream over what anyone else says

and attempt to drown them out.

it made my blood boil to watch it, and futher convinces me I don't miss anything by not watching this asshole.

[rurallib]

6. I do not know how anyone can watch that asshole.

[Celtic Merlin]

13. Yes. O'Donnell allows Moaning Joe to speak uninterrupted, but Joe...

Joey the Scar has to try to shout the man down every time he opens his mouth. Not ONCE does that gaping asshole permit O'Donnell to finish his thought without screaming interruption.

There's a reason for that.

Moaning Joe is a teabagger who can't stand to allow polite debate when he can instead shout down his opposition.

Typical for him and his ilk.

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist

[90-percent]

4. woo-hoo

Way to go, Lawrence!

Joey got nuthin!

-90% Jimmy

[CanonRay]

5. "It's not lying if you believe it's true" George Costanza????

I swear that's a George Costanza quote!

[tridim]

8. Wasn't that his advice to Jerry when he was taking the lie detector test..

To determine if he had ever watched Melrose Place?

[geckosfeet]

28. It is a quote from Seinfeld. He goes on to say it is lying if you represent a guess

as fact.

[underpants]

38. LOL I actually laughed out loud when JOkE said that

:rofl:

Yes that is a direct quote from Costanza

[spiritual_gunfighter]

7. Scarborough

and other defenders of Cheney are making the assumption that Cheney is on their side, he is not. It is something I still dont understand about these Cheney apologists. The only thing Cheney cares about is defending his horrible administration and piling on Obama's to make himself look better. Cheney could give a flip about the Republican party.

Scarborough is defending a man who could care less about him and what he thinks. Cheney serves himself, he serves no party, no idiology, his number one objective is defense of the indefensible. Scarborough and others who defend Cheney are fools.

[AndyA]

10. Whenever I think of Scarborough I remember that dead intern in his Florida office.

The fact in that case just do not add up. Then his quick exit from office, as if doing so kept someone quiet about her death.

Really, he shouldn't be on television. Anyone who defends Cheney is too far gone from reality to even pretend to be fair and honest.

[coconut22]

31. Do you have an article or something..

a friend of mine was asking me to guide her to an article or something about scar and the intern..

[slay]

45. Here is a link and a google search will turn up many results about Joe's DEAD INTERN IN HIS OFFICE

A Death in the Congressman's Office
Does Anybody in the Press Care About Lori Klausutis?
By Denis Wright and Chris George

August 8, 2001 (APJP)

Once upon a time, the phrase "investigative reporter" actually meant something. It usually involved hard work, possibly even mentation. Now, it seems, they just make stuff up. Especially on the Fox News Channel, where an uninitiated viewer could easily think she/he had tuned in Comedy Central. It's "Chandra-Chandra-Chandra" with the occasional "Condit is just like Clinton" thrown in. Given our media's 24/7 obsession with the Gary Condit "scandal", you might assume that there is a real dearth of hard news to pursue.

In reality, there is indeed a news story percolating out there. The story bears remarkable and ironic similarities to the Condit/Levy story. Both involve Congressmen, rumors of infidelity, and the fate of a younger female subordinate. The details are so similar as to remind one of two alternate universes. The difference between the two stories? First, in the Klausutis case as not in the Levy case, there is a real body, very dead. Second, the Klausutis case involves a Republican.

The story had a brief flutter in the Northwest Florida press, which ran a few very short stories on Lori's death. With the exception of the Northwest Florida Daily News, they were of the "Aw-what-a-shame/ nothing-to-see-here-move-along-now-folks" variety. But nationally, this mysterious death earned a mere one paragraph mention in The Washington Post's NATION IN BRIEF column:

"FORT WALTON BEACH, FL. - Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-Fl), was found dead in the congressman's district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner's office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide."

Unbelievably, that was it. The story was simply dropped. A young female employee of one of Florida's Congressmen had died unexpectedly in the Congressman's office. There were no witnesses to her death and the cause of death was not apparent. Klausutis' boss, Joe Scarborough had recently resigned from Congress prematurely and unexpectedly, amid rumors about his marital fidelity and soon after a divorce. He had also abruptly resigned as publisher of the Independent Florida Sun, claiming that resigning from Congress and as publisher was necessary to spend more time with his sons.

more: http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html

[sallyseven]

14. Absolutely true

Cheney and his daughter are idiots. He put her in the State Dept to gather info. I don't think either of them care about the US.There is no end of their deception. He needs to go to jail and so does she.

[PearliePoo2]

9. thank you ...thank you for posting this video

I missed Scar this morning dammit.
Love how Lawrence keeps his cool and stares un-rattled right back at "Joey The Mean".
Does ANYONE doubt Scar has a anger/temper problem? He is a fucking egotistic powder keg with a short fuse.
Hmmmmmmm....wonder what he is truly capable of when he flies into a berserk rage?

[coconut22]

33. Yes, exactly..

he is if I didn't know better I would think that he and bush are one and the same..same mo..

[baldguy]

11. Why is anyone listening to DICK FUCKING CHENEY?

He has been wrong ON EVERY DECISION MADE IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS!

[gordianot]

12. The only action W made I agree with was refusal to pardon Scooter Libby.

He also knew it would rub Cheney.

[Piewhacket]

15. Cheney = Lying POS. - Case closed.

[DirtyDawg]

16. What I want to know is...

...when is somebody gonna 'call' that prick Scarborough out with a 'Joe, are you ever going to tell the truth about Lori Klausutis?' Lori was the 28-year-old that died mysteriously in Scarborough's Northwest Florida office back in 2001 - about the time he, Scar, resigned unexpectedly from the Congress, divorced, etc.? You can't tell me that if he didn't do it himself, he knows who did, and/or exactly what happened. If I were that lady's family I wouldn't have let the shit-ass get away with any of it. I would still be hounding him - unless, of course, I would have taken matters in my own hands by now. This is an evil SOB and I wouldn't take one ounce of crap off him.

By the way, and if you'll Google Gulf Power/Plane Crash/Horton you'll be reminded of another cover-up from the Pensacola area. While it wouldn't have had anything, so far as we know, to do with Scarborough's, it does show that you can get away with a lot down that way if you're appropriately connected.

[yowzayowzayowza]

17. What a sniveling lil twit. n/t

[smoogatz]

18. If Cheney isn't a pathological liar, then he's the dumbest fucking guy

that ever walked. Either way, he's not to be taken seriously. Next question.

[90-percent]

30. taken seriously?

I think the 4,400 families of the American service man that died in this man's bogus war and the 100,000 innocent Iraqi's also lost in that war take Dick seriously.

I think the hundreds of people that have been renditioned by the USA and held indefinately without human rights in secret prisons and open prisons all over the world also take him seriously.

Well, they should anyway. He's the reason why all the aforementioned lives were lost or ruined.

The Justice Department should take Dick's war crimes and treasons seriously, too. Gee, it sure is too bad they don't!

-90% Jimmy

ps - no snark intended for the preceding post that inspired this one. not going after you on this at all. you're fine with me.

[smoogatz]

32. As some kind of "defense expert," I mean.

As a war criminal, absolutely.

I'm fine with you, too.

[Rudy Adams]

19. Oh, Cheney was DECISIVE, all right!

Which is why we're in the goddam mess we're in NOW!

[euphoria12leo]

20. I can't stand Joe

the smug face POS. He thinks he is all that and a bag of early morning coffee beans. Thank you Lawrence for grinding Joe's words up in an appliance. I don't watch the show anymore so I didn't know Mika gets to voice an opinion. I got tired of Mika saying "oh stop guys, come on guys, don't, that's not nice." Dr. Brzezinski usually did a good job of shutting Joe down.

[jeremyfive]

21. Fun to See Shallow Joe Scarborough Get Bested Again!

And why in heck does he keep blaming Democratic Senators for their vote in the belief in weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when they were clearly reponding to the President's "leadership"--it was not clearly understood then that Dubya was one of the great incompetents in history.

The Democratic leadership was trying to work with Dubya, and give Cheney what he felt he needed. They did not have access to the intelligence. Joe Scarborough's argument is idiotic and pathetic. But I can see how he would not be able to understand what the Democratic Party was doing since, when the shoe is on the other foot, the Republican's have no intention whatsoever of working with the opposition party ever. They are the "Party of No". Republicans would never see the patriotic value of supporting a President who was pursuing an significant agenda for the nation. (I am reminded here of the heat that Jimmy Carter took for the Iran Hostage Crisis, and how Ronald Reagan in the same situation sold weapons to our enemies to secure a disturbing release of prisoners--at the cost of American lives in the long run.)

Dick Cheney has been proven an outrageous liar time and time again. My favorite one was when he was defending himself against charges of being a war profiteer by saying he got absolutely no compensation from Haliburton at that time. Records proved then that he was LYING OUTRAGEOUSLY--he was in fact receiving financial compensation. Just as Condoleeza Rice was lying when she travelled about Europe insisting that the USA does not torture, knowing full well that Dick Cheney was in full torture mode.

Boy, did Joe Scarborough lose that one. Just as he usually does.

[PearliePoo2]

24. yup!

good thoughtful post.
Demonic liars...all of them.
:mad:

[Thornleylv]

22. SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE!

Just saying that it isn't so does not make it "not so Joe". Cheney pushed and pushed the CIA into saying that Iraq had uranium for nukes until finally they agreed to a lie! That is a fact JACK!


:kick:

[2Design]

23. They shout louder and overwhelm the conversation for those who are civil -

This guy Joe is delusional

[Greyskye]

25. "Go sell your appliances."?

WTH was Joe talking about with those 'appliance' references aimed at O'Donnell?

[CatWoman]

26. LOL

we seem to have a mind meld going here.

I'd like to know what's going on with that, too.

[rvablue]

29. I think it's a reference to local advertising in the metro NY area

don't know if you ever watch SNL as of late, but sometimes they parody this:

Obnoxious dudes yelling into the TV in poorly produced commercials about deals, bargains, etc.

Of course, this certainly doesn't fit O'Donnell -- maybe a bit of project on the part of Joe.

But I've alway wondered why SNL writers do skits like this, not funny for the rest of the country. And, in Joe's case, also irrelevant.

[evenso]

27. K & R

[vaberella]

34. To be honest I thought Scarborough won this round.

Although all his screaming and rambling wins a lot of things at times.

[coconut22]

36. I think you need to listen again..

scar started off with personal attacks on O'donnell and then when he could find anything to say he did what repugs always do: accuse the other person of what they really are doing themselves..

[coconut22]

35. Did anyone notice how..

he began hedging and hemming and hawing as he tried to say that the majority of the country wanted more war.

This asshole has the audacity to tell O'Donnell that he is spewing personal attacks when he started off tell O'donnell something about his trying buy property or so sort of garbage that had nothing to do with the conversation..

He,Cheney and Bush need their ass in,around and under the jail asap! a bunch of lying ass hypocrites!!

[Turborama]

37. K&R The title of this thread describes that exchange perfectly...

Notice how cool calm and collected O'Donnell was compared to Scab's temper tantrum.



The head explosion at 5:30 was really funny, too.

[Postman]

39. Rumsfeld after 9/11 - let's bomb Iraq there are no good targets in Afghanistan...

They were after Iraq from day one regardless of WMD claims, which were just the reason du jour to invade.

These Iraq war arguments regarding Cheney don't end and begin with what Cheney said.

Everything that was done and said by the Bush Administration - taken in its entirety- is proof that they lied about going to war in Iraq.

From their OSP (Office of Special Plans) to the PNAC to their planted stories in the NY Times by Judith Miller to their propaganda campaign with the retired military officers on TV to Cheney making visits to Langley (CIA) to pressure analysts to come to the "correct" conclusions...

THEY LIED and they ALL SHOULD BE IN PRISON.

[Guilded Lilly]

40. It's the same bully pulpit as always

When faced with actual fact and non-name-calling intelligence, those who defend what is purely wrong, resort to personal put-downs and smug comments as if that would actually take the place of truth.

Cheney is and always will be a wretched spooge. He opens his mouth now, when he is out of a position of control, to play on the same bullshit fears, false patriotism and ugly, intimidating bullying that he used for eight years. Just because powerful people get away with treacherous manipulation does not change the fact that after all is said and done, and that manipulation becomes fully evident to even the most dense of government minds, it is STILL TREACHEROUS.

Cheney used his intelligence toward devious abuse of power and war mongering for profit.
He was very good at his game.
We suffer mightily because of his game.
He doesn't care that we suffer.

Obama uses his considerable intelligence toward fighting abusive powers and devious governing.
His passions and heart are in an entirely different place than the previous administration.
We suffer from the excessive deception and lies that the previous administration(s) brought down upon us and that he is intelligently trying to change.
He does care that we suffer.

Joe? Well, quite often, Joe just Blows.

peace,
Lilly

[Nostalgic]

41. Moaning Ho has stooped to personal attacks against Lawrence.

He should just move to Faux Noise already. Shep Smith can replace him on MSNBC.

[MarinCoUSA]

42. I almost forgot what a pissant Joe "Dead Female Intern In His Office" Scarborough is.

Thank you L o'D for saying it loud and clear.

[mzmolly]

43. Dems rarely respond to this right, the war was based on claims re: a NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM

not WMD's. WMD are broadly defined. Democrats did not make the claim that Saddam Hussein was going to pursue a "mushroom cloud over the US" agenda, the Bush administration did.

[donheld]

44. I could only make it through about half of that crap

Scarborough is a fool

[democracy1st]

46. K & R