CherylK
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Fri Nov-13-09 10:39 PM
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Media Matters Victory: Adios Lou Dobbs!!! |
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Fri Nov-13-09 11:18 PM
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1. Some people are saying they think he will..... |
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be blowing donkeys in Tijuana Mexico, Poor guy, he cant help it.
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Fri Nov-13-09 11:49 PM
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Sat Nov-14-09 03:01 AM
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3. I don't know what happened! |
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At some point Lou went from being a champion of the little guy, to the champion of hate groups. This birther crap is recycled KKK.
I watched it happen and it makes me sad. That is what you expect of Fox from people who have always been dishonest.
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Sat Nov-14-09 04:20 AM
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4. Supported him only on illegal immigrants |
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Then he went senile.
illegal Immigrants and Contractors who hire them effectively put my Uncle out of a job and now he's homeless. Sometimes fixing up home's built by illegals who put houses together haphazzardly . (sp) like windows upside down, doors that fall off plumbing messed up.
Illegal immigrants are offensive to those who take the tests that make Legal immigrants more knowledgeable about our legal system than natural born citizens. And I know some that legally immigrated to the USA. They did their time.
Illegal's get hired because companies like to save money so some of them work under the min wage. My uncle couldn't compete against that and voted against the Republicans in 2008 (ahem Bob Barr) after being a bit Bush supporter when he found out how Bush made it easier for illegals to get hired.
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Sat Nov-14-09 12:31 PM
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6. Many "illegals" who work in construction |
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are not immigrants. Their work is seasonal and they go back to Mexico when the weather changes. Before the border was "closed" most seasonal workers went "home" until spring. Now they are forced to stay because they don't want to take the chance of not getting back in. My point is they didn't want to "immigrate" they wanted to come here to work, send some money home to support their families, and go home for the winter. They were actually "migrant workers", migrating to the U.S. to work and then migrating back home. The problem is that they are not allowed to migrate any longer. If we allowed them to come in legally, work and then go home, the problem would be solved. But the employers have no motivation to hire legal seasonal workers because if they were documented employers would have to treat them right and pay them fairly. Then Migrant workers would be on the same footing as your uncle in wages, benefits and quality of work. How many people see employees of contractors that they hire at a work site and tell them "If your employees are not legal your company can't work on my project." Until we make these kind of demands from builders, landscapers, all contractors for that matter, it will never change. If no employer hires an "illegal" they will stop coming! The fact that the number of employers that are shut down or even fined for hiring "illegals" is so small is very telling. You can't hold it against someone for trying to make a better life for themselves and not hold the "illegal" employer responsible for hiring them. But we do all the time. If Dobbs advocated for that nearly as loudly as he advocated against "illegals" I would have supported him too. If every "illegal" employee was kicked out of the U.S. today, entire economies would shut down. There is a reason why many agricultural processes have not been automated. It's cheaper to hire Migrant workers, treat them like slaves and pay them sub minimum wage than to automate. America would starve!
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Sat Nov-14-09 12:52 PM
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7. thanks- your reply was MUCH kinder than mine was (i self deleted it). |
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Sat Nov-14-09 07:33 AM
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5. I don't think so.... in a recent statement by the Tijuana Donkeys union, their spokesperson says |
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Edited on Sat Nov-14-09 07:33 AM by TheEuclideanOne
that they think that "Lou Should Go beyond his role here of blowing Donkeys in Tijuana". Apparently he is being rejected all over the place. Hey, donkeys have standards too!
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Sat Nov-14-09 02:18 PM
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9. Hopefully this is a start of a trend |
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He had one of the weaker followings amongst conservative kooks.
On the illegal immigrant thing I do agree with the premise. There is nothing wrong with limitations on immigration and requiring people that live here to live above the radar. In fact in the age of post 9/11 we MUST have secure borders. If we are ever going to treat terrorism as a police matter, rather than fighting broad wars, then border security will be in have to be in place. There is a direct link between war and an insecure "homeland".
I also don't quite get it that people don't understand that one of the factors that provides a quality of life is low population per square mile. I like that and wish the rest of the world were more effective about population control. And there is nothing wrong with wanting to keep America a little less densly populated.
Immigrants are not a threat to our lifestyle. Illegal immigration and unlimited legal immigration are destructive. And it has nothing to do with the color of an immigrant's skin.
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Sat Nov-14-09 03:50 PM
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10. Whether Media Matters can actually take credit for this or not, I don't know |
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But I'm all too happy to give them the credit anyway!
Kicked and rec'd
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