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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:04 PM
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Great video! TYT: Cenk on MSNBC 'Mixes It Up' on HC Reform & Israel
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 07:25 PM by Wetzelbill
 
Run time: 08:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTNv1iL8ZYA
 
Posted on YouTube: March 24, 2010
By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks
Views on YouTube: 281
 
Posted on DU: March 25, 2010
By DU Member: Wetzelbill
Views on DU: 3718
 
Cenk woke up and decided it was Slap a Right-Wing Tool Day.

From ihavenobias:
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:18 PM
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1. Good job and GOOD LUCK!!
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:52 PM
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38. The guy was LYING abut the 'giving away teritory" meme.
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 02:52 PM by stopbush
Simple FACT: Israel is building settlements in EAST Jerusalem. That territory was seized by Israel in the 6 Day War. Nobody but Israel believes that is Israeli territory. The UN, international law and the USA all agree that East Jerusalem is NOT a part of Israel.

When shithead says that "Israel is being asked to give up territory" he is lying. Israel's LEGAL territory is limited to its pre-1967 borders. They are giving up nothing. They are required to recognize that they have no claim to territory they ILLEGALLY seized in 1967. Ergo, Israel is building settlements in territory that is not Israel. It is the equivalent of Mexico building settlements in Texas.

Why didn't Dylan or Cenk point that out?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:23 PM
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2. I could just picture Ratigan's producer giving him the signal to let them keep going.
Normally that segment would've ended minutes earlier!

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:24 PM
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3. I was a little worried they might
cut them off. Like the producer might be a Tom Shales type and not like what Cenk was saying at all, lol.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:02 PM
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16. Well, Cenk's last two appearances on Ratigan's show were ridiculously short.
In a way it was kind of funny. At any rate, nice to see this one stretch out.
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Stellar Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:26 PM
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4. I loved it!!!!! He wasn't backing down either.
Cenk was like, none of those talking point to me buddy! An he did it looking so cute, lol! Kicked his butt :)

:spank: :nuke:
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:33 PM
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5. But who is CHANK ?
how is your name pronounced ?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:41 PM
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6. It's pronounced "Jenk Yoo-Ghur". But hey, Olbermann gets it right...
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:47 PM
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7. Thats what I thought, Thanks.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 04:21 AM
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21. Actually its Pronounced: "Jenk You-Gur"
Your phonetics was incorrect.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:15 PM
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26. Thanks denimgirly.
I'm not a phonetics expert, so I just give my best guess.

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jennied Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:45 PM
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36. I think it's more "Jank" - like Jake, but with an N in there.
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 02:45 PM by jennied
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:50 PM
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47. No, it's an "eh" sound. Ratigan says "Chenk" but the Ch should be replaced with a J. n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 08:51 PM by ihavenobias
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MedfordTim Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:52 PM
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8. More evidence that Righties don't understand nuance
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 08:31 PM
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9. El Siq de Fuq de Hunde!
I don't know if that's how it's spelled in the ancient Germanic, but go Cenk! I hate the crosstalk, but it was worth it to wipe the smug tv grin off that other jackass's face. Civility? We're talkin' bout civility? Nah, that'd put me in trouble... hahahahahaha!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:50 PM
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28. I saw somewhere that it was
something like: her sinde verflukte der hunde, but who really knows? That person could just have made it up too, lol.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 08:46 PM
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10. K&R nt
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BetterThanNoSN Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 09:04 PM
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11. wow...
I knew there would be a time when Cenk would get his opportunities on prime time. He took that dude to the woodshed. Cenk had total command of the facts and didn't let the weasel spew his talking points. You go brother.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 09:31 PM
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12. Great video!!!
I'm tired of the over-exxageration of everything involving Israel. Someone needs to tell them who THEY need, not vice versa.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:25 PM
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34. I am WITH YOU on that!
We're going to be supporting that experiment in nation-building ad infinatum! Phooey!
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 09:45 PM
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13. That's some damn fine television right there
wow, a prepared guest with well-reasoned arguments to rebuke all the right-wing BS they can throw at him, AND talking heads shouting at eachother, all at the same time. Something for everyone.
:popcorn:
Best thing on TV in years. Worthy of celebrating. Go get 'em.
:toast:
Big K&R
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 10:05 PM
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14. Bibi Netanyahu’s babe: kneepad diplomacy lives!
Alan Sabrosky argues that US politicians’ loyalty to Israel – “there isn't any longer even a facade of ‘dual loyalty’, only loyalty to Israel alone – has reached a point where, despite its enormous power, the US is totally paralysed in the face of Israel.


There has been something verging on the surreal in the US-Israel interplay over the past year or so, culminating in the kick in – er, the face delivered to Vice-President Biden two weeks ago with Israel's surprise announcement of yet more new settlement construction, and capped by Secretary of State Clinton's groveling submission to Netanyahu at a recent American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) conference. Her speech was the verbal equivalent of what a White House intern allegedly did for her husband once (or more) upon a time, supposedly earning "Presidential kneepads" thereby.

Israeli officials have repeatedly not only ignored but also openly insulted in word or deed the persons or policies of almost every senior American official with whom they have dealt, including Clinton, Biden, Middle East envoy George Mitchell and President Obama himself.

And they have taken it, one and all, occasionally with brief bursts of verbal anger that rapidly subsided into yet another steadfast affirmation of the eternal, undiminished, unchallenged and unchallengeable US willingness to underwrite the security of Israel, and especially to its absolute unwillingness to deny Israel a single dollar, bomb or bullet. God knows, I wish they had even half the same demonstrated commitment to the security of the United States and the well-being of the American people – but then, no one can easily serve two masters.
Creating a shambles and calling it policy

Sure, America's Middle East policy is a shambles. America's standing is much lower now than when Obama came into office. The Iraq war is winding down, with no certainty at all how that country will go. Afghanistan is a mess, but then, Alexander the Great couldn't do much with it either, so that's no surprise. And Israel – not wanting America to be bored with only one and a half wars – evidently is trying to help by encouraging us into war with Iran, to spare them the cost of attacking it. Such a friend!

http://www.redress.cc/americas/asabrosky20100325
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:24 PM
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44. Listening to neocons,
the message never varies: The US has allies, but Israel is the "chosen" ally, the tail that wags the American dog.
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 10:41 PM
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15. K&R
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:59 PM
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17. Cenk kicked ass
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:45 AM
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18. freakin rightwing liars!
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:27 AM
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19. K&R Cenk took him for a trip to the woodshed!
By the way, anyone know if we'll ever see Feinstein's National Insurance Rate Authority proposal again?
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CrawlingChaos Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 04:18 AM
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20. Oh man, that was BEAUTIFUL! Thanks for posting (n/t)
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 04:22 AM
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22. Another Powerful voice for the Truth! FINALLY!
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:31 AM
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23. K&R
I agree with Cenk.


ps: I voted.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 07:41 PM
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50. Thanks! n/t
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:30 AM
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24. Cenk Appreciation Post - A Critically Important Message and a Fascile Messenger!
Cenk is KICKING ASS 100%! FUCK THIS DICK HEAD! MORE CENK!!!!!!!!

The health care bill is riddled with landmines and provides a bountiful source for campaigning Republicans in upcoming races. A Frankenstein of DEMOCRATIC creation in league with industry lobbyists.

Another Democratic challenge is this incestuous Israel/US bull shit. Israel is USA Jr. and a fucking belligerent self serving parasite.
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:53 PM
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32. Facile? NO I'M STUPID. I meant a word for dexterity and agility in debate LOL! Sorry.
I didn't even spell it right.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:27 PM
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41. Well maybe if you took a deep breath and spoke more slowly.
Just Kiddin.

Rhett aka MoReese
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:46 AM
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25. They stole is fair and square!
Come on, who you going to believe, me or your own lying eyes?
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:40 PM
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27. They need to put Cenk on TV a lot more n/t
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:55 PM
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29. K&R
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blackbart99 Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:00 PM
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30. Did you hear the Nutter lie about us???
You know when he said the american people only care about jobs and the economy, guess what
A%# Jack, we can care about more than one thing at a time. What a tool. Cenk smoked him!!!!
:toast: to Cenk and thanks for the post. Thats the first time I've seen any of the Dylan Ratigan
show.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:53 PM
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31. more proof that right wingers are twisted liars... good on Cenk
for calling him out for what he is... a fucking right wing fascist liar who supports right wing fascist governments.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:23 PM
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33. Great video and go Cenk....but what the hell
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 02:24 PM by ooglymoogly
Cink gave away his position by not announcing loud and clear that Israel has been stealing Arab lands for decades and is bull-dozing Arab settlements while decimating the ancient people of their lands; Driving them our and not allowing them to return. If there is any give, it would be for lands already stolen by brute force. A trade for that stolen land, to make a "fair" border, now chopped to hell by Israel, while it moves the goal post further and further away from its legal landowners, is, at least, a slight move toward peace.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:45 PM
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37. I agree. Couldn't believe the other guy's comment "they won that land."
Wow. Is that how it works?

:eyes:
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 11:17 PM
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48. I could believe the argument except that the United Nations says annexation of land is illegal.
It is an activity that has largely been illegal since soon after World War 2.
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jennied Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:43 PM
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35. It makes me mad that Dylan STILL hasn't gotten Cenk's name right.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:07 PM
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39. I don't see much of Ratigan except here. So most of the posts were him being pro progressive.
After this I am wondering if he just opposes everything, so he appears to be everybody's advocate now and again. Is he just a universal disparager backed by no intellectual center nor commitment to truth?
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:18 PM
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46. You are wrong on that;
Ratigan appears to me to be searching for the truth, but is still on a sharp learning curve. Yes I got mad when he didn't yell at the liar, instead of backing him. Obvious lies cannot be tolerated by any journalist, but those are so rare as to be extinct these days. If they need a lesson in journalism all that is needed is to watch Olbermann or Maddow, who never lets a lie waft around the room before swatting it dead in its tracks.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:18 PM
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40. That was a great segment. Cenk is terrific! nt
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:29 PM
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42. Cenk is great. I love the "peace thru strength" mem. Vote for TYT at
www.vote.steamys.org.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 05:07 PM
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43. That guy was a DICK!
There is a segment of our population that believes Israel is always right no matter what they do. Building the settlements was flat out wrong and many Israelis believe it was wrong. Why take steps that inflame violence?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:10 PM
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51. Because they confuse taking steps that inflame violence with "support". n/t
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:40 PM
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45. Civility does us disservice often, especially when a lie needs to be called out.
That must have been very frustrating. Cheers to Cenk. :thumbsup:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:38 AM
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49. Go Cenk! n/t
PB
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