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Sun Apr-25-10 12:30 PM
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4409 -- Arrested over Arizona's Real I.D. Paper's Please SB1070 bill |
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Sun Apr-25-10 01:01 PM
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It's amazing how little that legislator new about the bill or the current law. He just doesn't care because he feels he will not be targeted by the new law.
Thanks for this video.
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Sun Apr-25-10 01:11 PM
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The guy actually mentions Obama and Nazi's and then turns around and supports this Gestapo like bill! Amazing hypocrisy.
Like I said, whenever a Republican accuses a Democrat of something, you can always assume that the Republicans are doing it themselves and the accusation is just a smoke screen.
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Sun Apr-25-10 01:17 PM
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3. The Republicans LOVE to project. k & r n/t |
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Sun Apr-25-10 07:49 PM
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15. Yes. It's called "projection" |
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Sun Apr-25-10 01:20 PM
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4. Can we NOW compare them to the NAZIS? |
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Sun Apr-25-10 01:30 PM
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Thanks for this clip.
knr!
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Sun Apr-25-10 01:38 PM
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They havent a clue of the slippery slope they are going down...
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Sun Apr-25-10 09:43 PM
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21. Look at the reactions at Free Republic |
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Nuff said. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2500317/postsWhat an amazing display of hypocrisy this is. What do they really stand for?
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Tue Apr-27-10 03:20 PM
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44. Went ther...saw this: Good citizens should not take offense to this law. |
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I did not stop to think until now, that those who opposed Fascists in their countries had to face not only the jackbooted thugs but their fellow ...."good Bushies".
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Mon Apr-26-10 06:48 AM
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29. Time to start expanding the determent camp tent city. Assholes! |
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Police state: Coming to a town near you.:wtf:
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Mon Apr-26-10 06:54 AM
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Sun Apr-25-10 01:41 PM
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7. Wrongful imprisonment? |
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If the law isn't even passed, where did they get the idea it was alright to ask him for info?
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Sun Apr-25-10 03:41 PM
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8. Thanks for posting this. |
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I had heard on the radio that this had happened, but I didn't want to cite it as fact without more backup.
It's not illegal, in this country, to be out in public without ID. Further, what the law requires is that a person who is suspected by the police of being here illegally show his immigration papers. Guess what, folks: natural-born citizens don't have immigration papers. We're not issued passports at birth, either, so if we don't carry our birth certificates, we're screwed. In fact, Arizona doesn't accept Obama's birth certificate, so why should we expect it to accept ours?
I hope this guy sues for wrongful arrest. Heck, I hope he charges that cop with kidnapping and wrongful imprisonment. No citizen should be asked for his papers, when he has committed no crime.
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Sun Apr-25-10 09:22 PM
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20. In fact, Arizona doesn't accept Obama's birth certificate |
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That's a good point. They could call anything you provide illegal or illegitimate. It's just a nutty bill.
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Sun Apr-25-10 04:22 PM
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10. THIS LAW DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL AUGUST!!! WTF. |
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Sun Apr-25-10 11:11 PM
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24. NY Times says it will be implemented 90 days after signed |
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so that is either very late July or in August.
So I'm wondering too.
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Mon Apr-26-10 09:43 AM
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36. A cop doesn't always know the law... |
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They are not required to study or get a degree in law as an attorney is. They are only trained in law enforcement. Here's proof already in the OP's video. The police officer knew about the law, probably knew it was signed, but didn't know it wasn't in effect yet, AND already misinterpreted it. This will be the story over and over again and it will be fun to watch the lawsuits develop. I hope this guy contacts an attorney.
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Sun Apr-25-10 04:55 PM
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11. Good job on this video! |
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Sun Apr-25-10 06:48 PM
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12. I am so ashamed for them, truly. Excellent work . n/t |
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Sun Apr-25-10 07:12 PM
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13. There's no nice way to say Nazi |
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Bankrupt Arizona by any legal means necessary.
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Sun Apr-25-10 07:34 PM
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14. Our world is turning into Minority Report---towards Minorities. n/t |
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Sun Apr-25-10 08:19 PM
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16. Suspicious because his mother lives in Mexico?? Are we now calling all Mexicans terrorists?? |
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Sun Apr-25-10 08:34 PM
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17. Thank you! Heard about the truck driver arrested a few days ago .... shocking!! |
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Gave them his driver's license and Social Security # --
arrested him because he didn't have his birth certificate with him!
Simple harassment of this young American born Mexican-American and I hope he
and anyone else this happens to sues their the legislators!!
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Sun Apr-25-10 09:02 PM
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4409? i hope everyone knows what 4409 is and what they stand for. one of their biggest guys is pastor steven anderson (the preacher who prays for obama to die). 4409 is a huge anti government/anti single payer/anti demorat group. they didn't make this video to protect immigrants, they made it to try to portray the entire government as a nazi establishment. these guys are neo-cons. no kidding here.
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Sun Apr-25-10 11:00 PM
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23. They're not neocons, they are paleo/libertarian Ron Paul types, lol. |
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They are 9/11 truthers and such, so that is one reason I refer to them as Ron Paul types, as Paul is not a truther. But you're right, they are nuts. But they did get some great footage, the explanations the individual could not give about the law, very telling.
What can I say, sometimes nuts can make a contribution.
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Mon Apr-26-10 07:36 AM
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31. Even if this guy was a hardcore R.... |
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he's doing the right thing...Challenging Authority, and taking these idiots to task.
He's trying to make a difference, and regardless of affiliation, I thank him for that.
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Mon Apr-26-10 12:55 PM
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Mon Apr-26-10 12:50 AM
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26. ONE HISPANIC OFFICER (preparing to retire lol) SHOULD START ASKING FOR ANGLO PAPERS... let it begin! |
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Mon Apr-26-10 06:46 AM
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28. The man's ignorance of the law is staggering. |
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Mon Apr-26-10 08:31 AM
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34. Who is that guy? State Senator Gray? He's an |
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imbecile!
He's gonna have to go down!
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Mon Apr-26-10 07:58 AM
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32. If there are any decent cops in Arizona |
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they should start asking state legislators and judges and lawyers for their papers, jailing those without birth certificates in hand. "Reasonable suspicion" can be that anyone with that kind of power also has the social mobility to have come from another country, perhaps illegally.
Heck, they should start pulling over the other cops when they're off duty.
A taste of their own medicine might be just what they need.
Maybe a good idea to wait until the law goes into effect, since before then such arrests could be deemed kidnapping.
Can the law be read to allow for citizens' arrests on these grounds? If so we could have some serious fun at their expense this summer. I wonder what happens to a freeper's bowels when being driven over a dirt road handcuffed in a windowless van?
Just kidding of course. And it's absolutely horrifying to think that sort of thing will really be happening under indemnified legal protection to innocent people until we stop this.
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Mon Apr-26-10 08:01 AM
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33. Only problem is there IS a supreme court ruling |
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that says cops can ask you for ID. It was a case out of Indiana, IIRC.
Other than that, great video.
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Mon Apr-26-10 09:50 AM
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a birth certificate even when you have shown your ID? And then to be arrested when you have shown your ID, but don't have a birth certificate on you?
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Mon Apr-26-10 09:27 AM
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35. this is a birther's bill |
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plain and simple..show us your birth certificate
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Mon Apr-26-10 11:09 AM
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39. Aren't these the same guys that think that McVey was a patsy for the gov't? |
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Mon Apr-26-10 11:58 AM
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40. Aren't these the same guys that think that McVey was a patsy for the gov't? |
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I doubt they think McVey (the guy arrested in Asheville, NC as Air Force One was taking off) is a patsy... but they might think McVeigh was.
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Mon Apr-26-10 12:40 PM
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I such as speling sometimes.
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Mon Apr-26-10 12:51 PM
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42. boy, they sure proved his point, didn't they!? eom |
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