Gather Your Armies (You thought the Alabama Ag commissioner ad was hilarious?)

[Ian David]

Run time: 01:03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iQ7ZDUutU4   Posted on YouTube: June 13, 2010 By YouTube Member: ICAUCUSREGION6 Views on YouTube: 7049   Posted on DU: June 14, 2010 By DU Member: Ian David Views on DU: 2181

 
RT @markos: You thought the Alabama Ag commissioner ad was hilarious? Check out this one:
http://twitter.com/Pam_Spaulding/status/16153857693





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Sedition
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Sedition is a term of law which refers to overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

Typically, sedition is considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within the study of state persecution.

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition


Treason
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In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of betrayal of one's sovereign or nation. Historically, treason also covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a husband by his wife (treason against the king was known as high treason and treason against a lesser superior was petit treason). A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.

Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as "......citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the {parent nation}." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavor.

More:
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[Ian David]

1. See also: Rick Barber's Must-Watch Tea Party Ad: "Gather Your Armies"

Rick Barber's Must-Watch Tea Party Ad: "Gather Your Armies"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4426032&mesg_id=4426032

[tekisui]

2. That is for real??!!??

What a strange person. Stupid and dangerous, too.

[SILVER__FOX52]

3. IDIOT.....

[go west young man]

4. Looks like one of Glenn Beck's jackoff buddies.

That teabagging sure does require a lot of spunk.

[ejpoeta]

5. i realize that most of these morons probably fell asleep in history class

but if memory serves me, the issue the americans had with the taxes had to do with taxation without representation... and it sure looks like middle aged white men have not suffered from not having representation in the government.

[zipplewrath]

7. Historical absurdities

That whole thing is so distorted from history it is often hard to know where to start.

Washington raised an army alright, to enforce the Whiskey Tax and fight the Whiskey Rebellion.

The Revolution didn't start over tea, or any other taxes. The revolution started because the Massachusetts Bay colony was in open revolt. You rarely hear anyone discuss why so many British troops were in Boston in 1775, or why they were marching out to Lexington that day. They were in open revolt because the Crown wouldn't recognize the governors and other governmental authorities that the colonist elected for themselves. More than one was literally run out of office by armed men. The Boston Massacre wasn't the first such incident. The issue of "no taxation" had long since passed and the colonies realized that a piddling few MP's weren't going to change much. They wanted more self rule in some sense and the Crown wasn't going for that. So they were attempting to accomplish it by force of arms. It ultimately turned into direct armed conflict between British troops and the colonists. At that point, it was decided to finish what they had started, although some southern colonies were a bit cautious about getting involved in what they saw as the problems of the "northern colonies". The agrarian southerners were vastly less concerned about the taxes and tariffs than the northern mercantile class.

The guy would probably flunk high school history.

[SkyDaddy7]

16. Same applies to Thomas Jefferson...

The right wingers are always quoting Jefferson about small federal government...What they fail to mention or probably do not even know is Jefferson was against standing armies or navy...This almost cost us our country in 1812.

The right wing also claims America was founded as a Christian Country when the Constitution specifically says otherwise as well as other documents from the early days of America.


Basically, they are rewriting our history in front of our eyes! And it is working! Many Americans have no clue about early American history all they hear are the same lies told over & over & over on Talk Radio & FOX "News"...If you repeat a lie enough people will believe it as truth! Nothing could be more true about the current state of America! SAD SAD SAD!!

[zipplewrath]

17. Jefferson was a strange duck

He was against standing armies (as were many of the day) but he sent Lewis and Clark out on a military based expedition. He also started West Point. He also purchased the western lands, when it wasn't even clear he had the authority to do so.

[awoke_in_2003]

19. As to the christian country thing...

the right wing stays far away from Jefferson belief in separation of church and state.

[SkyDaddy7]

20. Right! They wrote him out of the Texas School Books! nt.

[awoke_in_2003]

18. Yep, the tea tax...

was just one of many things that led to revolution. A bunch of different taxes, and the King's governors habits of dissolving colonial parliaments at a whim, quartering troops, etc, all piled up to our declaration. The Declaration of Independence is a marvelous thing, but people stop reading after preamble, and never make it to the list of grievances.

[James48]

6. 18 USC § 2384

Seditious Conspiracy is a twenty year felony.

Has anyone called the FBI yet?

[tomm2thumbs]

8. just what we need, hair-trigger angry men near our military

sounds like every reason to keep him AWAY from government, not near it. You'll notice the only calm ones in the video are the 'real patriots' - he comes off like a raving neighbor mad about a broken sprinkler head hitting his roses

bwahahahahahaha - i laugh at his ridiculousness

[Ian David]

9. The Boston Tea Party by Thom Hartmann

The Boston Tea Party by Thom Hartmann
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5451927

[pretzel4gore]

10. but we already spend more on warpiggy then the rest of planet combined?

i read recently that as soon as the slaves were freed following the white racist terror rebellion (aka 'civil war')of 1861 ,the south began suffering a all out labour shortage and the economy was like a plant given no water and stuck away in a dark room... iow the southern slavers/racists kkk types were their own worst enemy (since any reasonable functional black american would go north to work when s/he was free- leaving few really exceptional worker bees for the desperate colony!) these rightwing stooges ALWAYS cry out for fixes that are in fact THE VERY PROBLEM THAT'S RUINING THEM in the first place!
It's like the Gulf oil spill is nature's way of saying 'get a brain, morans!'

[Old and In the Way]

11. The Constitution provides for a revolution.

It's called an election process. If he really cared about the Constitution, he'd respect the will of the majority that obviously disagrees with his opinion of our government. He's no patriot, he's a fascist that's using powder wig props to subvert the document he claims to revere. The founding fathers would tell him...the system is working just the way it should. Gather your "armies" of voters and get yourself elected....then you can see if your vision works. I'm guessing that these moron's are better at complaining than they are at actually governing.

[CLANG]

13. Much better at complaining than governing!

Point in fact: Bobby Jindal. 'Nuff said!

[CLANG]

12. Loony Bin awaits him soon...

[davidhilton]

14. He'll probably win over his base with an ad like this.

[Althaia]

15. The irony! One of General Washington's biggest problems during the Revolutionary War...

..was a lack of money to feed, clothe, shelter, and arm his troops, because the fledgling country did not have a tax system to collect funds for such expenses in the national interest! (Given what a bloated money sink our military is now, I admit that we have gone much too far in the other direction. Why can't we find a happy medium? :dilemma: )

An informative and apparently politically neutral primer on the economics of the Revolutionary War. Perhaps I should send the link on to the Teabaggers, though I doubt they'd read it.

Reflecting the political environment neither the power to tax nor the power to regulate commerce was given to Congress. Having no tax system to generate revenue also made it very difficult to borrow money. According to the Articles the states were to make voluntary payments to Congress for its war efforts. This precarious revenue system was to hamper funding by Congress throughout the war...
...With the victory at Saratoga the military side of the war had improved considerably for the Americans. However, the financial situation was seriously deteriorating. The states to this point had made no voluntary payments to Congress.

http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/baack.war.revolutionary.us

[GoddessOfGuinness]

21. I guess Mr Barber never read about the Whiskey Rebellion...

Or maybe it's one of those inconvenient incidents in our history...like inconvenient passages of the bible...that he and his colleagues choose to ignore.

[Crowman1979]

22. I need to run as a Socialist candidate for AL governor just to piss them off.

Those teabaggers will go ballistic and have a heatstroke whenever I do an outdoor appearance in the summer.

[burnsei sensei]

23. Ricky, you know so little.

A progressive tax is one that taxes the poor less than the rich.
Progressive describes the structure, not the political import of the taxes.

So you're angry about taxes and government intervention.
Alabama should deal with the oil spill disaster without any federal help then.
If it offends your principles so horribly, don't accept the help.