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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:26 PM
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DENNIS KUCINICH *I CANNOT BE BOUGHT!* AUG 28, 2007
 
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:34 PM
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1. There is hope with a man like Dennis in the
drivers seat.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:42 PM
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2. I could not agree more when he says that those who later said
they were tricked into voting for the Iraq invasion are not the leaders we need. If they can be tricked by people in our own government, imagine how they might be tricked by foreign governments.

Thanks for posting K&R.
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:11 PM
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3. Right.
Either they were too naive or stupid to get tricked (unlikely), or they are lying to us when they say they are against the war (most likely). Either way, they are unsuitable.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:40 PM
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4. !!!!!!!!!! n/t
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 10:33 PM
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5. I like Hillary but she vote to authorize, she did vote to fund, she's
too much like the corporate controlled representatives in the rrepublican party. This is the only election where "electability" is not an issue. After Bush's administration and with the current GOP hopefuls just a joke, Kucinich, if nominated, will win the election and be the next president.

It's time for sweeping changfes not just more of the same but with a 'little' balance. We need Kucinich. He was bold enough to call out Clinton's mistakes, to go after impeachment on Cheney, to tell Rumsfeld where to stick it, to take on the insurance companies, to withdraw us from WTO and NAFTA, to vote against the patriot act, the military commissions act, FISA protect America bill, funding the occupation. He's the candidate of truth...saying it and doing it.
Kucinich/Edwards '08...the truth ticket...my dream ticket...make it happen.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:16 AM
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6. Could it be?
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 12:58 AM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...Could it be that the self preservation instincts of some elements within MSM are telling them that unless we have REAL change in this country's leadership and direction (the kind someone like Kucinich would bring), and soon, that they (MSM) stand a great deal to lose right along with the rest of us? Could some of them have actually started thinking about their children and grandchidren's future? Could they be waking up?

I predict that one day there will a be a new adjective that starts with letter K added to the dictionary:

Kucinich: Marked by or displaying tremendous courage and highest of integrity, to be neither corruptible nor subject to intimidation.

Example: He showed up to the annual White House Correspondent's Dinner known for his comedic genious and biting satirical wit, he would, however, later leave the dinner known thereafter, as much if not more, for his kucinich.

This will be a good word.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:58 AM
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7. More solid reason from Dennis.
I'm surprised Scarborough had him on.
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:54 AM
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8. He still has more that a year to go before the election.
I think more and more we'll see that he's got the best solutions out there.
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alllyingwhores Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 09:49 AM
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9. I wish he would have also mentioned...
...that the murderous Iraq invasion and occupation has made us LESS safe and has destroyed our stature around the world.

YOUGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KUCINICH!
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:31 AM
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10. Can't believe dead intern Scarborough
Actually let him speak. I'm amazed?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:47 PM
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17. He'll let anyone who bashes Hillary speak.
Its his favorite hobby like all the hate-radio jerks. The game became obvious when Scarborough asked questions that were egging Kucinich on to bash Clinton. Questions like, "Do you really think there's no difference between Bush and Hillary?" And the asking if those who voted for the war are responsible for the deaths. This is Fox's advance work for the general election since they think Clinton is going to be the nominee.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 03:24 PM
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11. Guts!
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onewholaughsatfools Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:07 PM
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12. now when Dk speaks
people listen I suggest you pass this along, he is for america and its people
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:08 PM
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13. So far I'm leaning towards Kucinich with Obama and Edwards next.
I check in on DU and look to find as much as I can on all the candidates so I can make a better choice. The strange thing is that the only thing said about Kucinich is that he is into Astrology. I am amazed at how many people don't support him and I haven't really seen the reasons they don't? I look for others perspectives to try and see all sides of a candidate but I really haven't seen the negative side of Kucinich? Besides that unele...... word that I'm sick of seeing, I cant figure out why people look away from him. Does the media control that many people, even DUers? Help me pick the right candidate, what is it you don't like about Kucinich?
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datavg Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:52 PM
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18. Do Any Of You...
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 07:09 PM by datavg
...truly believe Dennis Kucinich or Barack Obama or John Edwards will ever be President of the United States?

Do you think the insurance or healthcare industries or Big Pharma would ever allow it?

Richard Nixon used to tell people who wanted to run for President and came to him for advice to run for the extremes in whichever party they belonged to, get the nomination and then run back to the middle. The candidate who gets to the middle first wins the election.

Being in the middle means we don't get single payer healthcare. Period, paragraph, end of story.

Kucinich doesn't have the money and the media makes fun of him on a daily basis.

Obama means well but he doesn't have Hillary's money or consultants. He'd make a good VP.

John Edwards couldn't win North Carolina for Kerry. Why in the world he's even running is beyond me.

I'm telling ya now. Hillary will be the nominee, they'll put her up against Giuliani (unless something changes between now and Super Tuesday) and it'll come down to Florida...which votes typically as a southern state except for that sliver down in the southeast. From Interstate 4 northward, it votes like Georgia. Some of the wealthiest people in the entire world live in the area between Fort Myers and Naples. Cleveland Clinic opened a hospital there a while back and they're doing a hell of a business. I know of several anesthesiologists who attended public universities in Ohio, got their training at CCF and went right down to SW Florida to open private practices and mine gold. So...those kids used publicly subsidized universities to learn a skill, and then moved to a state that openly promotes "demographic cream skimming" of Rust Belt populations. Kevin Philips talks about this in several of his books. It's real.

If you think for a minute those people are going to be content with single payer, you're completely nuts.

I'm truly beginning to wonder how long we're going to survive like this. People in the San Francisco Bay Area are very wealthy and very politically savvy and they're demanding to be represented. People in the northeast are getting sick of all their jobs and economic and political clout being stolen away from them by people (southerners) whose political philosophy is one hundred eighty degrees opposed to theirs. When I lived in Texas years ago, people used to talk openly about letting Yankees freeze in the dark during the winter!

We can't go on like this but I don't know how you fix it.

This is going to get VERY, VERY nasty...sooner than we might imagine.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 09:53 PM
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27. I have to agree with you but I can have wishful thinking.
I refuse to give up hope on America and if that means pulling for the candidate that stands for me until the end...thats what I will do. I don't think they will put Rudy up, I think they will hold out and put up the tv/movie star up, the sheeple will eat that up. And if they do put up the tv/movie star up against Clinton....he will win! I think too many people see Hillary as a typical politician that will do nothing for average folks and if you have to go for a republican hiding in a democrats clothing, I think people will take their tv and movie star. People love tv! It really sucks but hey I will still vote Kucinich when given a chance. That is unless something comes out about him that would pull me in another direction.
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datavg Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:19 PM
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28. I Grew Up...
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 11:11 PM by datavg
...in the Cleveland area, so I'm very familiar with Dennis Kucinich. He did nothing but fight with the Cleveland city fathers the whole time he was mayor, and when he left office the region was in a depression from which it never completely recovered. I remember that era. My father was in the life insurance business and it was all he could do to keep his clients from cashing in their policies. That was also when the first waves of significant population migration to southern states began, and that process continues today.

Fred Thompson doesn't look healthy to me. He looks like an older man who's well past his prime. He's already had cancer once and he's still out there smoking his cigars and drinking Jack Daniels. Even Reagan knew better than that.

Having Hillary as President won't do us any favors. I'm constantly hearing rumors about her back room deals with the drug companies...just like Bill carried on behind closed doors with the Wall Street bigwigs. It's all about them. It was always about them, just like Susan Estrich always said.

Bill Clinton did more damage to the Democratic party and to the progressive agenda during his two terms than the Republicans could EVER do. It was a lot of things: ratifying NAFTA, signing welfare reform, losing control of Congress, the constant barrage of hearings, all the whispering about his Arkansas days...and THEN he gets caught with an intern, lies about it and the Republicans impeach him. My flight instructor talks about new students walking into the wing of a Cessna 172 with the flaps extended and getting a "Cessna tattoo" across their forehead...well, Bill Clinton's mark of shame will be that little blue dress from The Gap. That's a hell of a thing for a former President of the United States to have on his record.

Do we REALLY want to go through this all over again? David Geffen doesn't think so. Even Barbra Streisand has mixed feelings about another Clinton presidency.

It's depressing to even talk about.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:18 PM
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36. bring it on
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:11 PM
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14. He tells it like it is.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:42 PM
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15. He used the same seabiscuit line in '04.
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 06:48 PM by Radical Activist
I think it will prove to be equally true this time as it was in '04 the first time he said it.
Dennis talks about how he'll win after more people hear about his candidacy but he's even lower in the polls this time than last. People have seen him and aren't backing him.
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:49 PM
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30. untrue. don't believe the polls
it was obvious with the bunk ABC poll! Dennis is a candidate that can win.
I never even considered him last election. But this time my family is backing him! I have seen more supporters for him then ever before. It is a gonna be a great year for Dennis.

Hillary... to much baggage.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 06:44 PM
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16. Look at how transparently Fox is using Dennis
to bash the person they assume will be the Democratic nominee. They'll put on anyone who bashes Hillary. How sad that Dennis allows himself to be used as a pawn to do the dirty work of Fox State Television by attacking other Democrats.

Dennis used to be careful to not make those kind of attacks against other candidates last time, not even against Howard Dean, who he disliked. Dennis really lowered himself in this interview.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:04 PM
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19. So, why should we vote for a woman who claims she was deceived by Bush to vote on Iraq?
I think that's an excellent point.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:19 PM
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20. That's the question Fox is hoping you'll ask
if Hillary is the nominee. I guess it worked.
Why should I vote for a nominee who allows himself to be so easily used by a conservative propaganda outlet?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:45 PM
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22. So, according to what you write, why would you want a nominee
(in this case, Hillary Clinton) who would make it easier for Faux & the swift boat liying a-hole$ to beat in the end (on election day), because the best candidate is not afraid to speak truth to power?

No more status quo!

GO DENNIS! A President By The People, FOR The People!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:49 PM
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23. Who says I back Hillary?
I'm backing Obama who opposed Iraq from the beginning.
But Hillary voting for the war doesn't make it OK for Dennis to lower himself on Fox News. This isn't a binary argument.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:16 PM
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24. Ok. So substitute "why would anyone want a nominee" for
"why would you want a nominee"

Dennis Kucinich: A President Of The People, Elected By The People, Who Will Work FOR The People 24/7!

What A Change! What A Change! :hi:

:toast:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:47 AM
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33. Whatever.
It still doesn't make Dennis' behavior any better. I don't want a tool of Fox News whether its Dennis or Hillary.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:28 PM
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38. I liked Obama at first............
I think he's a good man. He'll probably be a fine candidate for VP with Mr. Kucinich. Though I prefer Kucinich/Edwards '08!
Kucinich has been right all along and he's the best choice IMHO!
I hear Obama's wife is a member of CFR. Is that true? :shrug:
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:58 PM
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26. Can't guilt me by association, that's a fallacy.
By the way:

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:46 AM
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32. What are you talking about?
Who is guilting you? Nothing Hillary has done makes it OK for Dennis to do what he just did. That's the Rush Limbaugh game of "Clinton did it so we can too."
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 12:35 PM
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34. You can't discredit me by saying that someone disreputable agrees with me
FOX News also agrees that there are 12 months in a year. Does that mean I'm just like Fox News because I agree with them on something?

That's the fallacy of Guilt by Association, and you used it again in your Limbaugh smear. There's no truth to any of that, it amounts to little more than name calling and horrendous logic.

I don't even think Hillary is guilty by having her picture taken with Rupert Murdoch, but I was just giving you a taste of your own medicine.
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rabidchickens Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 02:37 PM
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35. this is not fox
this is msnbc.. and he was completely right, i refuse to vote for clinton
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:21 AM
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37. My mistake.
I saw Scarburough, who is a crazy right winger, and immediately thought of Fox. The point remains the same. Dennis is being used.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:30 PM
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21. Crystal clear truth ... for once ...
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:31 PM
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25. That was flat-out AWESOME!
and on The Joe "Secretary Killer" Scarborough Show no less!

way to go Dennis!

:headbang:
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:43 PM
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29. GO DENNIS GO!!!
He is soo right!! Hillary will get chewed and spit out if she becomes the nominee.

I think she is a smart woman, and I have no doubt she would do a better job then GB but... she REEKS major issues....

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:14 PM
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31. "I am NOT an elf!!!! I am a FREE MAN!!!"
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