Sky Masterson
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Thu Nov-18-10 07:15 AM
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Rachel Maddow: How Pure Republican b.s. About Obama Became Story Of The Day At Politico |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RydikCR_-fw
Posted on YouTube: November 18, 2010
By YouTube Member: incitebytes
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Posted on DU: November 18, 2010
By DU Member: Sky Masterson
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Thu Nov-18-10 07:33 AM
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1. these lies become depressing after a while |
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bloody mind fucking Repubs
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Thu Nov-18-10 04:08 PM
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23. If only it were just the Republicans hawking these lies. n/t |
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Thu Nov-18-10 07:44 AM
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2. Her sardonic outrage is what we need more of. |
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Sometimes it seems we have become so inured to the republican misinformation/disinformation, that it doesn't seem wrong anymore. But there is so little outrage left in us. Did you see the smug faces around Tom Price? They don't even know what an idiotic game they are really playing.
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Thu Nov-18-10 06:40 PM
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29. There's plenty of outrage left ... |
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But it's expression seems to be reserved for President Obama only.
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Thu Nov-18-10 08:09 AM
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The Republicans told a blatently unecessary lie purely for reasons of political gain?!
Who would ever have thought it possible?
/sarcasm
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Thu Nov-18-10 08:51 AM
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4. This is just one example of why... |
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The Democrats & Obama can't get their message out when the Republicans have an entire media empire working for them & the MSM is AWOL. We really do not have a chance if something major does not happen to journalism in this country!
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Thu Nov-18-10 09:20 AM
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7. You are exactly correct. |
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These blatant lies will be picked up and repeated by the rest of the media. And they are never retracted after the fact-never. I'm sure you have noticed that they have become even bolder in the lying, the lies are more outrageous all the time.
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Thu Nov-18-10 09:41 AM
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9. They know they don't have to try very hard. |
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Journalists have gotten very lazy (especially online) so they can get stories up instantly. Too much crossover of news and rumor mongering un-researched blogs. For example over the last couple years my homepage has gone from giving links to AP stories as top headlines, to just throwing up highly opinionated yahoo bloggers and random editorials from other online sources (had a Pat Buchanan opinion piece appear in my "top news" section a few weeks back). Sorry people, that crap just isn't "news".
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Thu Nov-18-10 01:07 PM
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18. I know! Just wait until next year when... |
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The GOP controlled House start untold number of investigations claiming Obama is corrupt & who knows what else they will come up with...The public is going to think he is a criminal gangster by 2012.
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Thu Nov-18-10 07:50 PM
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The upside to the never ending republican lies purported for truth is that people do not trust the media anymore. Subscriptions to newspapers and magazines are way down as well as TV news. So some people have lost their bully pulpit.The liberal meme for NY Times etc. is not washing either. NY Times was a big cheer leader for the Iraq war. The propaganda was pretty apparent that time.Ooops who knew does not wash because it has been used so much within the past few years. The Sunday morning political shows are a joke.
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Fri Nov-19-10 05:12 AM
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38. Yesterday evening CBS did |
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a little hit piece on social security. They showed Simpson a Bowels laughing it up. They actually plan to cut taxes on the wealthy in excess of what the Bush cuts do. There wasn't a spec of objectivity in the piece-it was the purest propaganda in favor of the deficit hawks.
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Thu Nov-18-10 10:53 AM
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14. I so agree with that! You have nailed it! So much of the media is on a |
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campaign of slanderous lies against our President. I have never in my long life seen anything as despicable. Where were they when Bush was lying to the American people? They were just repeating his lies.
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Thu Nov-18-10 01:11 PM
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19. What I know is coming & I fear... |
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Wait til next year when the GOP controlled House starts investigating Obama for everything under the sun just to give the public the impression he has to be guilty of something or there would not be so many investigations! And the press will just carry that exact message as well while the Right Wing media convicts him of every investigation & more!
I am very worried about where America is headed!
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Thu Nov-18-10 02:11 PM
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20. I agree with that, too! But, honestly, I think there's really little |
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for the Republicans to investigate, and it will backfire upon them when that's all they are doing and nothing else is happening.
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Thu Nov-18-10 03:54 PM
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22. Well, I HOPE you are correct but... |
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You know how the American Public is when they see several investigations going on they are going to think Obama has done something wrong...Not but a very small % of people are like you & I and follow politics very closely.
Nothing is going to happen in the next two years regardless...The Republicans are going to pass ridiculous hard right bills & they won't pass in the Senate. Then the GOP will blame Obama & The Democrats for the failures.
Again, I HOPE you are correct!!!!
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Thu Nov-18-10 04:25 PM
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25. You might well be very right. I just hope I am, but know you probably |
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have a better perspective on all those Fox viewers who believe whatever Fox News tells them about Obama.
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Fri Nov-19-10 03:07 AM
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37. Clinton weathered the many investigations very well. |
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The Republicans came out looking like fools. The irony is that Clinton actually did have something, who knows just what, going with Monica Lewinsky. But the American people were so disgusted by the hypocrisy of the Republicans that they adored Clinton anyway.
The investigations bit does not always work.
Besides, if Obama wanted to be able to claim a clean record, he should not have engaged in backroom dealing with the banks, the insurance and pharmaceutical companies or big oil (BP). He promised to bring change. If investigations help him keep that promise, more power to him.
Obama has the means to fight back if the Republicans try to rough him up. I'd like to see Obama do that. If Issa pushes too hard, Issa could easily find that he has created himself more problems than he has created for Obama. It depends on how willing Obama is to be utterly honest.
Utter honesty and a willingness to answer Republican inquiries with Obama administration inquiries would foil any Republican attempts to drag Obama through the mud.
How about some investigations by the Justice Department into violations of laws prohibiting certain unfair trade practices? The country would really benefit from less collusion among the members of trade organizations like the Chamber of Commerce.
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Thu Nov-18-10 11:18 AM
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16. The Democrats & Obama can't get their message out |
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This is the THING!
All the time we keep hearing from pundits, reporters, posters here (and elsewhere) that Dems are just so bad at messaging and they can't seem to let the people know what they've done for them.... like lowering their taxes. Why can't the Dems get their message out??? What wrong with Dems?
Well, who's gonna carry their message? In a 24 hour news cycle, how many hours are spent on Repugs screaming their platitudes and how many are spent on Dems explaining what's been done and what they want to do? If nameless Dem staffers told a truthful story about what some Repug actually did, would it get such breathless retelling and embellishment all over the Internet tubes and the boob tube?
It's time to break up the media and actually enforce rules of ownership that are already on the books. No exceptions for Murdoch or anybody else.
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Thu Nov-18-10 02:12 PM
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21. I could go along with that, but with a Republican Congress? I doubt.. |
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anything like that will happen.
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Thu Nov-18-10 10:42 PM
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33. Truest issue right now. So why doesn't our government correct this? |
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Thu Nov-18-10 09:05 AM
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Two years later and "...we hate that ni**er from Chicago...", sad, the babies are such poor losers. We should have let them had McCain, the Bank Robbers in the 80's who made thousands of old folks homeless along with Neil & Jeb and Senator Cranston.
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Thu Nov-18-10 09:17 AM
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Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 09:26 AM by Enthusiast
The lies are now coming so fast and furious that they all can't be addressed. It would take a monumental effort on the part of the tiny left wing media to even catalog all the lies. Countering these lies has become an insurmountable task due to their sheer volume.
Never in history has there been such a powerful massive propaganda effort like the one we see from the right wing today.
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Thu Nov-18-10 09:25 AM
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8. That spin by the Republicans is so... |
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Thu Nov-18-10 09:47 AM
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10. politico,huffington,and drudge.... |
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three sites that are racing each other to the bottom.
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Thu Nov-18-10 09:52 AM
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11. Rachel is a treasure. |
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Thu Nov-18-10 10:40 AM
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13. Kicked and recommended. |
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Thanks for the thread, Sky Masterson.
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Thu Nov-18-10 10:53 AM
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15. K&R - "Sources say...." |
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Thu Nov-18-10 11:22 AM
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Rachel is a national treasure.:applause: :rofl: :woohoo:
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Thu Nov-18-10 04:09 PM
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24. Isn't it nice when a Rhodes Scholar holds up The Truth for all to see? |
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I thank Zeus that Rachel Maddow is on OUR side of the debate. If she were a Repuke hack, we'd be in BIG trouble!
I luvz ya, Ms. Maddow! You and KO bring an intellectual presence to the analysis of Current Events which is sorely lacking in most other venues, and completely absent on all other programming I see on the TV machine box thingy.
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Thu Nov-18-10 04:45 PM
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has been a right wing hack site from its inception, albeit well disguised. Now they're using Pox News tactics with the qualifiers like "some people say" or "unnamed sources." I hope they die.
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Thu Nov-18-10 11:33 PM
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35. Yep, Politico is another arm of the reich wing's propaganda machine |
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Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 11:34 PM by Turborama
It's purposefully designed to slip under the radar and get their "messages" out to unsuspecting 'moderates' & 'independents'.
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Thu Nov-18-10 04:55 PM
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27. Rachel Maddow is a national treasure. |
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Thu Nov-18-10 06:01 PM
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28. Rachel is fantastic, a true journalist |
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explaining to fake journalists the rules of the game. So really, really, really important! :kick: & Recommend
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Thu Nov-18-10 08:33 PM
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31. Wow! That is a boatload of recs! |
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Thu Nov-18-10 08:47 PM
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32. kick and recommend!! that was truly fantastic!!! |
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Fri Nov-19-10 02:56 AM
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36. Thank God for Rachel Maddow. She thinks logically and can express her logical |
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Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 02:58 AM by JDPriestly
thoughts clearly. This is what we need in our media. It is not enough to just repeat what is being said. We need news reporting that differentiates between truth and opinion.
I hope that Jon Stewart reconsiders his statements about MSNBC. There is a difference between truth and opinion. Some opinion is based on the truth. Some is not. We should judge the value of opinion programs based on whether the opinions expressed arise from provable facts or from speculation or even falsehoods. We should not judge the value of opinion programs based on whether the expression of the opinions favors one side or not. The only thing that should concern us is whether the opinions favor truth or not.
Fox News's opinion shows rely on falsehoods, repeat falsehoods and are false. MSNBC's opinion shows rely on the truth, repeat the truth and are true. The fact that Fox News values the well-being of the wealthy more than the rest of us while MSNBC values the well-being of the rest of us more than the wealthy doesn't make the two equally bad. there is nothing wrong with MSNBC's values. And Jon Stewart, of all people, should realize that.
I will watch Jon Stewart again after he apologizes and admits that MSNBC is not at all like Fox, that MSNBC seeks to tell the truth, not just excite its viewers.
Let's say that you are a member of a jury. There are two lawyers in the case. Each of them is attempting to persuade you and the rest of the jury that his point of view should prevail. Both of them present their cases in a dramatic, exciting way. But, as the trial proceeds, it becomes clear to you that one lawyer's evidence is strong and factually accurate, backed up by the testimony and documents admitted at trial while the other lawyer's evidence is obviously factually incorrect and without basis. How would you vote in the jury room? Would you simply throw up your hands and say, "Well, they are both overdramatic. Both use inflammatory images and language. They are the same. A pox on both their houses." Or would you differentiate the two lawyers, the two sides based on the facts.
Jon Stewart is just downright wrong about MSNBC. Just because a news presentation is dramatic and entertaining does not mean it is wrong. The issue is not how the news is presented, whether it is presented with partisan fervor or boring equanimity but rather whether the news is based on evidence or not. Evidence matters.
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Fri Nov-19-10 07:14 AM
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This is the kind of stuff that frustrates and angers me to no end. Is it any wonder our political system is in such a mess, that people in this country are so stupid and uninformed? This proves again that there's really no comparison between what Fox does and what MSNBC does. How long would it have taken Politico to check out it's own story from one year ago? Yep, Obama showed up totally unexpected, guns blazing, and whipped their asses...gee, how unfair. The fact is, Republicans are deceitful. They are afraid of anyone or anything that shines light on their mendacity. I don't know much about Politico, but it looks like they're a right wing rag or just lazy.
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Fri Nov-19-10 08:08 AM
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40. A lie is NOT the "other side of the story." It is just a lie. |
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