Michael Moore: Change We Can Believe In?

[Charleston Chew]

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GRITtv: Michael Moore: Change We Can Believe In?
Laura Flanders
Mar 18, 2011

Michael Moore notes that 52% of the public believes that Obama's health care plan has been repealed--and that the government is doing little to prove to them that health care reform has been a good thing for them.

Watch the full conversation at http://grittv.org! Distributed by Tubemogul.

[JuniperLea]

1. It's a misinformation echo chamber...

How does one battle that? When Obama does speak, the echo chamber rises up and says he's lying. He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't and the echo chamber is never satisfied, and will never be.

[dennis4868]

2. "the echo chamber rises up and says he's lying"

Including many DUers who hate the man with a passion....I don't think there will ever again be a dem president that the PL and many lefties will ever be satisfied with because of the way washington works....

[leeroysphitz]

3. There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke. n/t

[vicarofrevelwood]

4. But Washington,

Doesn't Work and hasn't since 1911. It will continue to worsen, and our representation will continue to decay till the nation breaks, and blood is spilled.


I have an explanation in my Journal. General comments. A Letter to the editor, and Teabaggers and other wingnuttery.

or go the the source:<http://www.thirty-thousand.org>

[TheEuclideanOne]

5. There sure is. His name is Senator Obama.

If THAT GUY was running the show, we would have a dem president that the PL and DUers would love. He would be referred to as King Obama and thought of as the greatest president in history. Unfortunately, President Obama is doing the exact opposite of what Senator Obama spoke about. Not only is he not doing these things, but he fights against them in so many cases. I don't hear a whole lot of he's lying, but I do hear alot of people complaining that a democratic president should not give away every single important dem issue and fight tooth and nail for issues that you would never ever see a dem representative fight for.

[JoeyT]

7. Yeah, we just hate him.

In fact we donated and fought for him to get elected specifically so we could hate him. It's all a huge plot!

Or people could just object to his craptastic policies and you take any objections to his policy as a personal assault on your beloved.

I wonder which it is?

[Raoul]

9. Great comments!

I think the cat was out of the bag when Rahm Emmanuel referred to those of us who are more progressive than he and his ilk as 'fucking retards'. Obama should have fired him on the spot but nothing was done or said. Everything else has fallen into place. I do owe Obama one thing though - he's convinced me that this political system is completely corrupt and I will never vote again. I just don't care. I can now sit back and ridicule all of them - they're worthless.

[ThomCat]

6. People say he's lying because his actions never match those

rare pseudo-progressive words.

His actions to benefit the wealthy far outweigh his actions to help unemployed people, or people who are loosing their houses, or becoming outright homeless because they have no place else to go.

The money he is willing to spend to enrich banks, or continue needless wars, or keep tax breaks for wealthy people is thousands of times more than what he is willing to spend to help people who truly need help, or what he is willing to spend on the environment.

He only moves quickly, and only gets government to move quickly, when they are releasing money for corporations, or slashing regulations. For the rest of us, government moves like molasses, if it moves forward at all.

And then, of course, Obama speaks critically of the left More Often than he speaks positively of the left. So when he says something positive, there is a negative track record. Why would anyone suddenly decide to trust him positive message without being skeptical?

At that point you would really need to be either Terminally Naive, or a True Believer who simply believes whatever he says, no questions asked, no matter what it is he says. Unfortunately, we have a lot of both of those types of people here.

[xchrom]

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[Overseas]

10. I share his sadness and enjoyed the full interview. Thanks for the link.

I still can't help feeling so baffled that my Democratic legislators didn't band together after the Bush Crash and push through Medicare Part E -- E for Everyone. Millions were being evicted from their homes after the deceptive mortgage bundling and swapping and medical expenses are one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in America. Republican cruelty, power to the richest, had crashed our whole economy. I share his question-- What part of a ten million vote mandate for serious change didn't our Democratic administration understand?

Still very sad about so many Democrats having been corrupted by campaign funding that they didn't have the guts to band together to push through much more compassionate legislation right off the bat.

And how can our president and so many legislators advocate for nuclear power when we don't have the public health systems in place to cope with the accidents. When folks get ill in Japan from radiation exposure they will get treated at a low cost to them. Their government realized that with a rapidly changing economy and risk taking like nuclear power, the people had a basic human right as taxpayers to get low cost medical care. Just like so many other modern industrial nations who realized long ago that their citizens deserved national health security as a basic bottom line in the rapidly evolving economies that included lots of chemicals and other potential dangers like the need to use coal, oil and nuclear power.

Deregulation and privatization are very lucrative for millionaires but very cruel for the vast majority of our citizens. Giving the failed GOP the chance to re-establish itself and divert angry citizens into government haters was really destructive.

I can only hope that the workers in the new Republican Dictatorships rising up will awaken Americans once again to demand more democratic government that benefits the 90% whose wealth didn't grow by hundreds of percent in the Trickle Down Decades of 1980 through 2010.

[demwing]

11. Moore is right, and to that note, Obama is partially to blame for the Tea Party

He came into office stirring up this great hope for real change, and then did a back-flip and went corporate. The result was an abundance of populist energy and a vacuum of populist leadership.

Nature abhors a vacuum, and filled it with the first thing that came along - Dick Army and the Koch Brothers. If Obama had done his job...Hell, if he had just kept his promises, then much of that energy would have been directed against corporate dominance.

Don't get me wrong, the Tea Party, once corrupted, has grown past its roots and is completely restructured now. The vast majority are Republicans and racist. None there would have supported Obama.

But it didn't have to go that way. Populism was subverted.

We could have had real change. We stood at the brink, looked at the future, and fucking blinked...