Thom Hartmann: Must see! The TRUE story of the Tea Party

[thomhartmann]

Run time: 14:59 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UiLZk2TE8k   Posted on YouTube: April 01, 2011 By YouTube Member: TheBigPictureRT Views on YouTube: 99   Posted on DU: April 01, 2011 By DU Member: thomhartmann Views on DU: 6988

 
The Big Picture with Thom Hartmann on RT TV "live" 9pm and 11pm check www.thomhartmann.com/tv for local listings

[90-percent]

1. Thom

As usual, Thom is brilliant!

He doesn't regurgitate history. He goes out and hunts it down on his own. Sometimes finding stuff that had escaped history for many decades or centuries.

Like his legal proof on the fallacy of corporate personhood.

-90% Jimmy

[russspeakeasy]

40. Thats what I would have said, if I had thought of it.

[90-percent]

44. Was gonna be snarky here but

Naahhhh, just a warm welcome to DU.

Where we are all preaching to our choir and hoping that that will somehow foment some kind of change somewhere in America someday.

Here's how lil' ole' me tries to do that; By reading DU, I become better informed with FACTS and other little known CORRECT INFORMATION. I try to share that info one on one with many who I deal with in my life. Sometimes the Stop and Shop bag-boys that I try to educate regards me as a middle aged creep, but I do engage minds some times.

One of the most impressive things when I engage people on the street is just how well informed most Americans in northwest Connecticut really know just how much their own government is hosing them!

I am so ready to hop on any collective movement out there to fight this creeping fascism. The Wisconsin stuff is Egypt for the oppressed workers of America! Also known as the repressed BOTTOM 98% of us!

Our only hope is each other! Our elected reps consider us expendable chattel.

-90% Jimmy

[MiniMe]

2. Thanks for the truth Thom

As usual, the "poor" Tea partiers have no idea what they are for, or against. They are doing what their corporate masters tell them to.

[florida08]

3. YOU are the man Thom

and what a find in that book. Shows just how manipulated people in this country can be by corporate deception.
Yes the Bostonians were smuggling in Dutch tea. The East India Company was about to go belly up because of it. So Parliament decided to cut the export tax but keep the import one to America. Undercutting the Dutch tea. And yes they disguised themselves as Indians something today's pretend tea parties have altogether missed.

They were standing against a corporate monopoly with Parliament as their lobbyist.
Sounds kinda liberal doesn't it.




DU had a discussion about a year ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x135617

[Plucketeer]

4. Dammit Thom!

You're gonna spoil their party! The Tee Partie, that is (purposely misspelt, as that seems to be required MO with the TP) Thanks SO MUCH for spelling this out and bringing this obscure citizen of US history to light.

Really, Really Great work, Thom!!!

[florida08]

5. BTW

Thom's having Jeremy Scahill on his show tonight..The Big Picture and you can watch him online @

http://www.freespeech.org/

[2banon]

17. oh cool..

I hope someone uploads that segment to du for later viewing.. should be really interesting conversation.. :thumbsup:

[JDPriestly]

6. Great! I watched it twice and intend to forward it to friends and family.

[JitterbugPerfume]

7. I watch you on DishTV Thom..

When I am not home , I record it.

This is just one of the many reasons.

[thomhartmann]

8. You can read Hewes' book yourself if you like.

Here is a free online copy.

http://www.archive.org/stream/retrospectofbost00hawk#page/n9/mode/2up

[zeemike]

12. Thanks for that link.

I love history and things like that.
That is history that should be taught in schools. K&R

[dmr]

29. Awesome, I was hoping for this.

I will read it this week-end!

Thanks so much. :hi:

[JHB]

45. Better to say you'll start on it this weekend...

The early 19th Century prose ad style make for slow going. It's the sort of book that takes a while to read, and even longer to read throgh and then reread the portions that touch on this aspect.

In the video you can see how many page-marker tabs Thom has added on the pages of the book he's holding. It's not easy reading.

[JDPriestly]

43. Thanks, ThomHartmann, I just bookmarked it and will read it.

[underpants]

9. George Robert Twelve Hewes didn't write the book according to Wikipedia -- still a great story

RediscoveryThe 1830s were a period when the American Revolution experienced a revival in the public memory. Battles and events from the revolution were being newly commemorated.<8> During this period, in 1833, a writer named James Hawkes discovered Hewes in Richfield Springs and wrote a biography about him, A Retrospect of the Boston Tea-Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Robert_Twelves_Hewes

[2banon]

19. interesting read..

Curious that he lived to be somewhere around a hundred years old, give or take a few.. considering he lived in poverty all of his life, indeed had to work a trade he hated.. that was a long life in those times, irony that he met his end by an accident on the 4th of july..

[RBInMaine]

20. Nonetheless, it is historically accurate. It was a revolt against corporate monopoly.

[underpants]

21. Yes it was and that was news to me

Amazing the crap I have been fed over the years. This is why I love DU and the web.

[BlueJac]

10. Thom has been my teacher for years now..........

I really respect him!

[underpants]

11. I will spread the word. Very impressive presentation. Very informative.

it does amaze me how many lies I have been fed over the years.

[proud patriot]

13. Awesome

Thanks for knowledge Thom

[annabanana]

14. Thanks for the shout-out Thom!. . . . n/t

[JackInGreen]

15. and they

remained, almost to a man.....Anonymous :D

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Now, THAT was fascinating!

I watched it twice also. By myself and with my husband who also listens to Thom on WCPT, Chicago radio. We thoroughly enjoyed this most interesting bit of history!

That book he found gave me chills! What a TREASURE!

Thank you, Thom!

[2banon]

18. excellent episode and history lesson! rec'd of course! n/t

:thumbsup:

[certainot]

22. way to go thom

[valerief]

23. Excellent clip. nt

[glinda]

24. Thank you. And kick.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

25. Thank you for the new cranium wrinkles, Thom.

[neobeetle]

26. You the man Thom!!

[pnorman]

27. k & r!

n/t

[Populist_Prole]

28. Wonderful! Can't wait to hear my rabid tea partier father's reaction to this

I thought through the various angles and possible tap-dancing the modern baggers might offer in response; and I just can't see how they can worm their way out of this.

They certainly can't claim an irrelevance of the past...what with all the revolutionary talk and 3 corner hat colonial garb the standard bearers wear.

They sure as hell can't claim the "cause" is the same...that today's corporatist stance is as grass roots as the original tea partiers.

It will force die-hard teabaggers today to admit they are actually Koch brothers minions and just ditch the whole "give me liberty or give me death" angle and come clean as theocratic corporatists.

Also interesting would be the quandary of them seeing the link on Russia Today ( Oh my! ) by Thom Hartmann ( they'll doubtless Google him and attempt to discredit him as a leftist/pinko/commie ) and yet have ulcers knowing the book and account by Hughes is real.

I guess there's always the sticking fingers in their ears and yelling option.....

Yee Haw. This oughtta be fun.

[kaffy4x4]

30. This explains why Thom's more recent

segment with the Leader of the Tea Party and his repeated statement of "we have more in common that we have differences". If Tea Party people embrace the true history of the Tea Party, then indeed we do have a of a lot in common.

[Azooz]

31. I wonder if Mahatma Gandhi knew that story

His resistance was against the same tea company along with the Cotton, Salt and other major companies ruling India.

[Buddha2B]

32. K & R +1000

So the original tea Party was a protest against a Multinational corp, and the new one is a protest for the corps? ROFLMAO.

Oh the irony!

[annabanana]

33. This video needs to be linked to all your twitters & facebooks

There are shockingly few "views" at YouTube...

[RoccoR5955]

34. Thanks for that bit of truth Thom.

It's high time people knew about the REAL tea party!

[fasttense]

35. The Revolutionary War began as a boycott and protest AGAINST a corporation.

Guess who owned most of the stock of the East India Tea Company?

The royals of England.

Corporations were charters given out by the King. That's how they started, They are still charted by states. We should be controlling the Corporations and they should NOT be controlling us.

Rusticus

[Scuba]

36. This is fantastic! I will watch it again, and have already forwarded....

...to my "lefty net".

More on Hewes: http://www.boston-tea-party.org/account-george-hewes.html

http://www.historycarper.com/resources/articles/ghewes.htm

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/teaparty.htm

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Thank you thank you and K&R!!!

Nothing better than establishing the facts of history from primary source material!! :applause:

[thanks_imjustlurking]

38. It's the corporations, stupid! (I've been trying forever to get that meme taken up.)

I had already read this story in your books, and I thank you very much. It's good to have it in this form as well. I am off to spread it around. We have got to get these creatures (humans, according to the Supreme Court) off our necks.

[yellerpup]

39. Wow! Thanks, thanks, thanks.

Teach the truth. :kick: & Rec. (1,000,000X if I could!)

[HopeHoops]

41. K&R

[SalviaBlue]

42. k&R

[howaboutme]

46. It was about crony capitalism

and corrupt corporatism then just as now. That book was quite a find.

I still believe and will suggest again that we have enough in common with the real Tea Party (see Howard Deans last of three Party description http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2011/0105/Howard-Dean-tea-party-is-last-gasp-of-generation-that-fears-diversity) that we could legitimately piggyback on their rallies and demonstrations.

Take advantage of their organization, advertising and use our own slogans and signs such as .....

End outsourcing
Fair trade now,
End crony capitalism
Tax the corporations that we bailed out
End our wars for empire
End international influence on our government,
End the Fed
Audit the Fed
End foreign aid to rich nations
Honest elections with paper receipts
Wealthy should pay taxes too

[democracy1st]

47. Kick

[ScottLand]

48. Wish I could go back in time and rec it. Thanks, Thom.

[neobeetle]

49. Hey DU'ers!

Favorite that video! It's pure Evidence!

[Quantess]

50. Too late to recommend.

[Courtesy Flush]

51. The Wikipedia article on the BTP backs this up

Tough I doubt many Teabaggers have read it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party#Background