Flashing Blue Light Seen Above Nuclear Reactor-(localized criticality/nuclear chain reaction)

[stockholmer]

Run time: 02:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr4Oe6bEraI   Posted on YouTube: April 01, 2011 By YouTube Member: NotForSale2NWO Views on YouTube: 3491   Posted on DU: April 03, 2011 By DU Member: stockholmer Views on DU: 1955

 
I so wish for some good news for a change, but the hits keep on a coming
:(

[Whoa_Nelly]

1. Not good. Found this info re: blue light & nuclear fission

http://www.furryelephant.com/content/radioactivity/nuclear-power/cerenkov-radiation/

The brightness of the glow is proportional to the radioactivity
Every fission of a uranium nucleus happens in a random way. There are dozens of ways it can split to produce two smaller nuclei.

Some of the fission products are beta emitters with a high enough energy to produce the blue glow and some aren't. Because there are typically trillions of uranium nuclei fissioning at any one time you always have a good mix of both.

But the more fission products you have, the more beta particles that move faster than the speed of light in water and the brighter the glow.

[CC]

2. Do you have an actual news source?

I've caught Fox making up too much crap to take anything they say as truth, even when it comes to this type of story. If they aren't out and out making shit up they will over sensationalize anything they can.YMMV

I will go look for the story elsewhere as it is important so thank you for giving me something to search on.



Edited to add- So far I can't find a different news organization showing this story. I did find a Satire sight with a similar one and a lot of repeats of this exact story that links back to it. Then there was this http://www.japanprobe.com/2011/04/02/blue-flashing-light-seen-over-japans-nuclear-plant/
Since this story supposedly broke April 1 and every other news organization in the world is freaking out about global annihilation I'm going to go with my opinion that Fox is doing its normal sensationalizing and making shit up.

[axollot]

5. A great site I've found has been

www.fairewinds.com/updates

Arnie Gundersen is a nuclear scientist who was also once an executive of Three Mile Island. He's very familiar with all aspects of the process, gives factual, clear, not sensationalized information in a plain language way. He's been saying this is really bad though for sometime and explains how he bases that information. (the entire Fukushima thing - have to check for new update re any blue light credible report and if so what it means in real terms). He knew for example that radio active water HAD TO BE LEAKING INTO THE SEA and because of reports on how much water had been pumped in plus how much any one of the containment pools held = water not being contained. That was last week - news yesterday headlines finally comes out.

And just so much more that gives you a real accurate picture of what is really going on and what it really means - especially for the people of Japan. Prof Kaku seems to have brought up a lot of these same points in a little more sensationalized way - being quoted as saying it's like using a water pistol against a forest fire - which is a very accurate but sensationalist way to put it. Prof Kaku said this 12 March-14March, when most news were doing a "nothing to see here" look at Libya approach.

Cheers
Sandy
IMHO a mass evac of N Japan/Tokyo and nearest small islands should have started weeks ago. Many people will have been exposed to radioactive material by now with the small evac zone near the plant, even if they had been evac'ed to the US informal evac zone they are still too close and every day exposure to Plutonium (found in 5 soil samples near the plant. If there is 5 there is more and chances are more again further from the plant site.) as well as the other lethal radio active particles goes up.

[jimlup]

9. I was going to recommend exactly the same ...

+1

[pam4water]

11. The guy in this post Arine Gundesen from Fairewinds seem to know that he is talking

about. He has seen the flashes, but is prediction it just based on the physics:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x569626


If they are real he'll probably have post up on his sight tomorrow.

http://www.fairewinds.com/updates

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Aw, Jeez.

K-Mart will try to sell ANYTHING.

[axollot]

6. LOL! We need to find humour even in the bleakest of situations I always say! n/t

[grahamhgreen]

4. Pretty blue light!

[HopeHoops]

7. They missed recording the audio - "Attention K-Mart shoppers..."

[AtheistCrusader]

8. Dosimeters don't really properly capture a beam of neturons anyway.

So from a practical standpoint, it doesn't mean much.

For the other forms of radiation present, yes, more dosimeters will help. Doesn't our government have tons? Doesn't our nuclear industry and regulatory organ have tons of them? Can't we pretty much overnight that stuff, or better?

Why no cooperation on this industrial accident?

[jimlup]

10. Basically dosimeters don't measure neutron flux at all

You're absolutely right. They don't register alpha either, they are only good for beta and gamma.

alpha don't penetrate the cover layer of the dosimeter - but if you breath in dust that is alpha active it can give you lung cancer

neutrons fly right through it unscathed though they are likely to interact in your body which is mostly water (a good neutron absorber).