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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:29 PM
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elevated(full mid-range)radiation soon arriving US west coast,Fuku 1-rad levels 100 FULL sieverts/hr
Edited on Sat Apr-09-11 02:35 PM by stockholmer
 
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http://lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/492011-urgent-elevated-full-mid-range-radiation-soon-arrive-west-coast-usa


Xenon-133, Iodine-131, and Cs-137 all midrange. A very high cloud of Cs-137 will hit Alaska and the West Coast tomorrow. The computer models from three scientific agencies agree on the estimated levels of radiation exposure. Radiation levels on the West Coast to rise to 10X of current levels

TEPCO is now issuing regular press releases of radiological data at this link:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/index-e.html

While the radiation levels have increased at the Dry Well, the radiation logs deal largely with background radiation at monitoring stations.
They have altered their chronology log several times, probably for legal reasons to ensure that the document is most accurate. A new statement of mandated power and equipment will take effect as of April 28.


"Therefore, the interpretation was amended to require two emergency generating facilities operable which connect to necessary emergency alternate-current high-voltage bus line for each nuclear reactor (when power stations have more than one nuclear reactor, they can count the number of emergency generating facilities of other units which are connected to the necessary emergency alternate-current high-voltage bus line.)

"As a result, it is required to immediately take actions for emergency safety measures, ordered on March 30, including securing power supply cars, fire fighting engines, fire fighting hose and others and also is required to immediately implement amendment of safety regulations of "Rules on the
Installation and Operation of Commercial Power Reactors", which fulfils the above interpretation and also is one of the safety measures for emergency, by April 28 of this year................................................................."


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http://lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/fukushima-flames-april-10th-2011

Fukushima In Flames - April 10th, 2011

"Unit #1 appears to be extremely radioactive based on data parameters for the dry well (over 100 Sv/h) and the suppression pool (12 Sv/h). While the D/W is off the charts, all other data points indicate some kind of operation is occurring. The fuel rods in #1 still appear to be exposed to open air. No media disclosures nor TEPCO press releases have been issued concerning the massive radiation at #1.........."




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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/video-tsunami-smashing-fukushima-nuclear-power-plant-reactor-1-radiation-counter-breaks-afte

Video Of Tsunami Smashing Into Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant; Reactor 1 Radiation Counter "Breaks" After Reporting 100 Sieverts/Hour

charts, video at link

"Better late then never. Almost a full month after the March 11 earthquake generated a tsunami strong enough to cripple the Fukushima nuclear power plant, TEPCO has finally released a video of the 45 foot waves coming to land and resulting in the biggest nuclear catastrophe since Chernobyl. As CNN explains what is patently obvious, the video shows the giant wave generated by the historic March 11 earthquake crashing over the plant's seawall and engulfing the facility, with one sheet of spray rising higher than the buildings that house the plant's six reactors. Tokyo Electric Power, the plant's owner, told reporters the wall of water was likely 14 to 15 meters (45 to 48 feet) higher than normal sea levels -- easily overwhelming the plant's 5-meter seawall.

This, of course, is in the past. What is far more disturbing is that the official Fukushima data from the Ministry of Economics, Trade and Industry, which has so far provided the most comprehensive daily data dump on Fukushima, has stopped reporting the dry wall radiation reading in Reactor 1. This is the same reactor where following Thursday's Earthquake, METI represented a mindblowing reading of 100 Sieverts/hour in the dry wall: a number on par with the worst data out of Chernobyl. Did the earthquake terminally break something in Reactor 1, or will the excuse be that another radiation counter turned up faulty after it was Made In Taiwan...................."




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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:35 PM
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1. oh goody...
what with everything else that is happening right now, this just tops my next week off! Whoopee!!
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lastone Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:38 PM
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2. and just what
the fuck are we to do about this? why is this info only available on the du? do i let my daughter play her lacrosse game, or keep everyone inside. the main thing that is lacking in all the coverage of this is INFO WE CAN/SHOULD BE ACTING ON.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:46 PM
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4. right! what are we supposed to do with this info?
I'm not blaming the messenger - but why isn't is covered ANYWHERE but here?! argh!
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:49 PM
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5. I'm so sorry, it is so hard to get info now, the global media has really clamped down/moved on, etc,
Talk to a physician you really trust, and has knowledge of continuous radiation exposure.

The horrid thing is that many of these radiation-triggered cancers will take years to show up, and the systemic controllers will launch all out suppression/disinfo/denial-of-causal-link media and legal attacks, all backed up by paid scientific shills that will have so-called 'global credentials' and gravitas.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:15 AM
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21. I feel the same way...
I have children. It rained the other day, and the next day they were rolling down a hill in
our yard, in the grass. I'm a reactionary ninny if I don't allow them to do this, but what
if they're rolling in radioactive isotopes?

I haven't kept my children inside, but I am taking precautions. We are now drinking very little
milk. We're on calcium-fortified orange juice instead. The kids also take a multivitamin that
contains 100 percent of the RDA of iodine.

The crazy part of this--is the media's lack of clarity on this disaster. Yes, we have articles
about the plant, what's going on and feature articles about the Fukushima workers. However,
where are all of the articles that discuss the presence of these radioactive isotopes--and what
this means to people. And how can we/should we protect ourselves?

They've detected Iodine-131, cesium and other radioactive isotopes found in milk in Arizona,
California, Vermont and a few other places. Are these isotopes also in milk in other parts of
the country?

There are so many questions!

The lack of meaningful coverage is a complete disgrace!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:45 PM
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3. I watched that video of the 2 dudes who drove into the evacuted zones yesterday it showed 120
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:58 PM
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6. 120 what? Could not have been full sieverts, >6 is 100% death,>10 in hours, >80,instant
Edited on Sat Apr-09-11 03:04 PM by stockholmer


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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 03:09 PM
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7. the video..you watch it to the end and you tell me... it looked like 120 full to me.....
Edited on Sat Apr-09-11 03:26 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 03:46 PM
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11. its in MICROSieverts/hr,120 uSv/hr will yield 1051 MILLI Sv per year,average US exp is 3-6 MillSv/yr
the mandatory evacuation level in Chernobyl (and many who got this died from cancer over the years) was 350 MilliSieverts PER LIFETIME,
so this rate, per year, is triple Chernobyl's mandatory evac rate

this rate is 350 times normal yearly exposure for a human, and 175 times that for a uranium miner

1 Milli Sievert (mSv) is 1/1000th of a full Sievert, 1 Micro Sievert (uSv) is 1/1,000,000th of a full Sievert

but this Geiger counter measures PER HOUR, so multiply by 8760 to get annual rate
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 03:14 PM
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9. It was microsieverts (mSv)
Equivalent to about 1 full Sievert.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 03:58 PM
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12. actually no, dont confuse milliSv (1/1000th) with microSv (1/1,000,000th) see my reply to the poster
if it was 1.2 full Sievert/hr they would would have 10% of death in 30 days and cancer almost for sure (if they were exposed to that for one hour)

if exposed to 1.2 full Sv/hr for 3 hours, 50% chance of death in 30 days, and full acute radiation sickness, vomiting, bleeding from mouth, under skin, etc
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:42 PM
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14. The video was showing a max of just over 100 microSievert/hr
That's not even remotely the same thing as a "full Sievert." First, it's a dose *rate* and not a dose. It's like comparing a salary of $50,000 per year to having $50,000. A radiation dose rate is to radiation dose as a pay rate is to the pay one receives.

Second, micro means millionth. So what the meters the guys were using said is that if you stayed there one full hour your dose would be 100 millionths of a Sievert.

That huge 100 Sv/hour reading was supposed to be a monitor inside the drywell of reactor #1. In other words, right where the core melted. If you're not in the reactor that reading has no effect at all on your health. In the long run, the only thing that matters for the general public's radiation exposure is how much of that core material escapes the plant.

There's not a thing you can or should do in immediate response to this as far as personal protection if you're an ocean away from the plant.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:51 PM
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16. Thanks for the clarification. nt
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:46 PM
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15. Oh, and regarding prefixes
This is a HUGE source of confusion... milli (1/1000 or one-thousandth) is what a lower-case "m" prefix means. When it's "micro" (1/1,000,000, or a millionth) the standard is a lower-case Greek letter mu; but since that's not on our keyboards sometimes people erroneously use a lower-case "m," which is ALWAYS a mistake because of the existing convention for milli-.

Sometimes people substitute a lower-case "u" for the Greek mu because of its vague resemblance. That's far preferable to using a lower-case "m." I prefer just to type out "micro" because that is utterly unambiguous.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 03:14 PM
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8. Webcam site shows the view every so often including plumes of Smoke? or Steam?






http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=en&VAR=webcam&SAT=201104090900





EURAD: dispersion model Caesium 137 surface


EURAD: dispersion model Caesium 137 2500m


EURAD: dispersion model Caesium 137 5000m
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animato Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 02:23 PM
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22. Does the color mean the concentration
and how does the height figure in?

I can't really visualize a comparison with the source, Japan, with this..
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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 03:15 PM
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10. Worst part is....
this can go on for months...
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:03 PM
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13. that has been my point all long, and radiation bio-accumulates
:(
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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 05:35 PM
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17. I know,sad day for humanity
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:42 PM
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18. I like the Google ad at the top of this post
Radiation Contamination
Identifinder handheld detection and identification
www.icxt.com
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TMED Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 03:27 AM
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19. On the plus side
according to my calculations, in about 2.2 million years, humankind will have evolved to handle 100 full sievert/hr, and be as fit as a fiddle. Furthermore, our descedants will have 2 heads and 7 fingers, which may look funny to us, but have real advantages. For one thing, we won't need to sleep in beds anymore. One head can doze off, while the other head solves problems in quantum mechanics. The two heads will simply alternate their REM cycles. Also, 2 extra fingers will make for some awesome piano playing!
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:51 AM
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20. Been staying in all weekend but need milk for coffee.... lead suit?
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