Thom Hartmann: Orly Taitz - Birthers have more up their sleeve

[alp227]

Run time: 07:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oevqk0oJb4   Posted on YouTube: April 28, 2011 By YouTube Member: TheBigPictureRT Views on YouTube: 240   Posted on DU: April 28, 2011 By DU Member: alp227 Views on DU: 1216

 
Now that the long-form is out, Taitz is now stretching to raise concerns about Obama's college records and possible Social Security fraud. Check out the close-ups of Taitz where she shows such documentation at the 2nd, 5th, and 6th minutes of this video.

[RandomThoughts]

1. They still don't understand.

If they were correct, then they would still be going after it wrong, and my guess is they are not correct, and it would not matter.

But the point is that they don't understand, if they were correct, and people were not able to see it, then the problem would be the entire media system.

In other words, if there was a birther issue, and as I said that is irrelevant, and not able to prove.

Then to fix it would be to remove the elements that don't show that, and that would include the groups that go after Bill of Rights, and form consolidations, since the core of the issue is following of law, not a birther issue, if it was a real issue.


In my view it is orchestrated by pick and choose, people talking about that issue are shown on media to not show important issues.


But if they were right, they are still going about it wrong, since if they were right the problem would not be showing that, since the problem would be that they could be right and drowned out, or not heard. And that very usage is to make someone feel correct, and nothing they can do about it. Hence you fight battles that have both relevance, make sense, and can be shown to people as a correct arguement.

If they were right they picked something that is not observable without a source many already believe. They are fighting using 'documents' while saying documents are being faked by the fact that such an issue would not be known.




I am not saying the issue is real, or there position is, I am saying they are fighting on the wrong battle field even if they were right. They would be fighting in a no win battlefield, by fighting for something that can only be proven by trust of source, and in there case, it would require error of trust of source for that sequence of events to have occurred.

So if they believed that, they should be talking about wall street theft, that can be seen, or debt of beer and travel money. Since they are trying to argue 'source accuracy' while saying people are believing wrong source.


For that reason I think it is a 'pick and choose' use of coverage, to avoid the groups that are pointing out real problems that matter.


You don't fight an issue, that would not exist, if it was defeatable by people trusting sources. If birther was real issue, then the issue would be to remove credibility of system that allows breaking of laws to occur on issues that people can see with common sense.

The birther issue is wrong on every angle, it is wrong on the face of it, wrong in the attempt, wrong in the battlefield, wrong in everyway. Hence why I think it is planned, by action, or pick and choose, to lead or paint a group as on wrong path.


Side note, the reason so many post on this site are not real is to try and break credibility of people that think like I do. shrug. So I understand the concept.

[RobertSeattle]

2. Would have been cool to see Thom go all "Lawerence O'Donnell" on her

:-)

[opihimoimoi]

3. Taitz is NUTS...just like Trump...n they both talk in the same language...Denialese

They just keep yapping...ya cannot shut them up.....

[bongbong]

4. Tip for Oily interviews from now on

Anybody who interviews this grifter needs to have some fake documents that are, of course very realistic & official looking, made up before the interview. Suggestions for the documents:

1) a document proving Oily failed all her dental school exams
2) a document proving Oily has gotten payoffs from various GOP members
3) a document proving Oily is a space alien
4) a document proving Oily is a hologram and not really sentient

[border_town]

5. How does she know

the social security # was from the state of Connecticut? I don't understand?

[Tx4obama]

7. You can tell which state a person applied and was sent a SS# by the first three numbers of the SS.

Each state has different numbers.

Here's list: http://www.ssa.gov/employer/stateweb.htm

Edited to add: But Taitz is nuts, last year she said that her investigator come up with something like two dozen different SS numbers for Obama. So, there is no telling what number she's using now - I'm sure it's not Obama's real one :)

[truth2power]

6. Taitz is crazy. And as far as Trump...

Why is anyone giving credibility to someone who's best known for screaming "You're fired" at people?

They should both STFU. :banghead:

[Tx4obama]

8. The college years accusation is easy to counter

From Wikipedia:

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College.<23> In February 1981, he made his first public speech, calling for Occidental's divestment from South Africa.<23> In mid-1981, Obama traveled to Indonesia to visit his mother and sister Maya, and visited the families of college friends in India and Pakistan for three weeks.<23>

Later in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations<24> and graduated with a B.A. in 1983

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama
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Possible explanation #1: Obama was at Occidental in the years of 1979, 1980, 1981*
he could have transferred to Columbia in LATE 1981 but not started classes until 1982,
and then graduated in 1983 (that accounts for 'one year' but 'two semesters' at Columbia.
Lots of folks graduate without taking a full four years of classes - we have no idea how many summer courses Obama took at either college or how many college credits Obama had racked up before starting college.

or

Possible explanation #2: The document that Taitz has either has a clerical error regarding the date - or someone tampered with it.

Note: 1981 was Obama's junior year.

[Tx4obama]

9. And regarding his Selective Service card

Only U.S. Citizens are issued a Selective Service Card.
So, the U.S. Government considered Obama a U.S. CITIZEN!