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MrObama (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 02:55 PM Original message |
Idiots Launch Obama Birth Certificate 'Layers' Conspiracy |
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mckara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Idiots! I Could Only Take 30 Seconds of His BS |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Expert analysis |
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Dane (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
63. What the hell? |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think this was a HUGE mistake |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. It was not well thought out. I still cannot figure out why it was |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. lol |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I can't drink milk. I'm diabetic. I drink Crystal Light. Tastes like |
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hourglass1 (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. why give legitimacy |
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Citizen Worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. I predicted yesterday that the birthers would claim the document is a forgery. When will the |
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forty6 (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. When will the insanity stop? When Obama's skin, and Michelle's and their two |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, the new birth certificate has PDF layers, which can be seen in |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Here's the answer |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. But, what is the likelihood that would give identical letter forms? |
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John1956PA (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. I think I can answer your second question. |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Wow. Thank you. That was incredibly informative. |
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hourglass1 (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
58. Thank you, John1956PA ! |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. Wouldn't that require knowing the scanner that was actually used? |
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GKirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. I do care about if Obama is a US citizen |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Their expert is a man in a Hawaiian shirt. |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:04 PM Original message |
yes |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
41. He doesn't come across very professional. |
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W.T.People (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
64. he looks like a pro |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
77. Considering that Obama comes from Hawaii instead of America, that shows his expertise. |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Yes, easily. This is one of the reasons you have to watch all |
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DRex (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. His citizenship is not in question.... |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Right, per Title 8 Section 1401 |
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GKirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. But...but...but... |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. but WHY was it touched up in photoshop? |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. That is an excellent question, but one that the wrong answer might |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Someone in a thread above had offered a good explanation. |
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TheEuclideanOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
62. This video documents it. |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Good video. Explains a lot. |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
8. Jones has been shilling for the Koch brothers for years! His movies are too slick to be homemade. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. So when are our debunkers going to debunk their debunkers? |
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GKirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't know who the fat guy announcer is but.... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I'm glad he's babbling on. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. Don't care about Neaderthal's ravings. |
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GKirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. Any truth to the statement |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. I didn't see that poll. I saw a poll that said 62% of people said there |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
17. Sadly, |
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GKirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. The announcer; IT'S ALL A DISTRACTION!!! |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. When Something Is Scanned, It Can Look Layered Depending on the Scanning Software |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. really? |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. I'm going to try it. I have three scanners hooked up: two Canon MF4350d's |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I'll be curious to see if there's any way to make similar letters become identical letters. |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Well you could do it by layering them with the same font, or copying |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I just verified that the BC has layers as claimed, using Adobe Illustrator |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Any chance the modifications are there to PREVENT forgeries? |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. So you must have merged your documents? I wish I could afford |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. I didn't merge my scanned docs at all |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Also, I wonder if there's any reason for some letters to show as 100% black... |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Attempt at matching or faulty OCR software. We have enough doubts |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. I just posted a link to a youtube comment about the OCR software. |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. "This is all horse shit." I'd like to think so, but something isn't right at all. |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Test it on another document |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
24. Um....has anybody actually looked at the WH pdf? It's capital "B" bizarre. |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Yes, I went to a friend's house who has Illustrator. The document |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. Ladies and Gentlemen |
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CyrusV (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
46. Alex Jones motto: Never let a conspiracy theory go to waste. |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'd like to see a qualified, unbiased expert's opinion on this |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Well, as somebody who's spent literally thousands of photoshop hours... |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
51. Most satisyfing explanation yet - character recognition software. |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Thanks for the post.... |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 04:33 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. Oh, I'll fall for any conspiracy theory... |
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peoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
54. I just did this with my sons BC in 3 minutes. |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
55. This was an excellent discovery group of threads. Next, maybe we |
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elana i am (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
59. let me say up front i'm sure it's real. BUT... |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 04:35 AM Response to Reply #59 |
69. "whatever the case..." |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
60. hot damn! |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
65. For the Photoshop Geeks, Please Read |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 06:40 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. it's possible that there is some explanation like that |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. People Scan Documents with the Capture Text or OCR Settings on All of the Time |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 07:08 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. First, I think the OCR explanation is right. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Again, We Would Have to Know What The WH Used to Scan the Document |
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elana i am (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. the original scan may have been done using OCR |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
66. I wonder why most of the world thinks we're insane? |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
67. so I wonder what their freeper user names are? |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
75. More Info on Text Searchable PDFs |
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