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Tue May-31-11 12:12 PM
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Thom Hartmann: Break up California into 3 states & help fix America |
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Yukari Yakumo
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Tue May-31-11 01:20 PM
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Booby Trap the stalemate button!
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ok ok, better idea than those four: GET RID OF THE SENATE.
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Tue May-31-11 01:47 PM
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2. I really don't want to pay for more Corporate Controlled |
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People in Washington DC. (Although I do like the notion of California's population of 37 million folks being split up once or even twice over.)
We don't have a clean energy policy because we have a Congress happily licking the boots of the Energy Company.
We don't have a Single Payer Universal Health Care system because Rahm Emanuel and his boss were more interested in keeping their buddies in the insurance industry happy. And on and on.
End the corruption, and that means end all Corporate-Sponsored Campaign Finance of politicians.
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Tue May-31-11 04:18 PM
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log, fog and smog.
sorry, old dumb joke.
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MindPilot
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Tue May-31-11 08:11 PM
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8. What? Nothing abut "nuts & flakes"? |
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How about "shake & bake" Can you get that one in there?
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tue May-31-11 04:42 PM
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4. Oh for heaven's sakes...Thom, I luvs ya but...NO! What a dumb idea. |
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What we need are the citizens of our wonderful state to WAKE the F up and stop voting idiots into office (Ahnold?!)
I love this state and would fight tooth-and-nail to keep it together.
...go pick on Texas...it needs to be give to Mexico.
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Tue May-31-11 05:37 PM
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5. I think CA should have 6 senators-Should CA have just 2 like ND SD WY etc. etc. |
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Edited on Tue May-31-11 05:38 PM by LaPera
These states with very few people under a million that have the same amount of senators (2) as California (2) with nearly 40 million people....Split the fucking state up in three parts - with 2 senators & separate state governments for each region, northern CA central CA & southern CA!!
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Tue May-31-11 05:41 PM
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6. Who gets stuck with the central valley? |
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Edited on Tue May-31-11 05:41 PM by diane in sf
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Tue May-31-11 08:10 PM
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7. Maybe we are just a little tired of being governed from the south and the east |
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One of the very few good things can say about Reagan; he did understand the west.
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Tue May-31-11 08:21 PM
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9. Usually Thom is brilliant, but this is NOT one of his better ideas |
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California in 3 states means three more elections that need to be protected and fought from repub corruption. And who's to day that just because you split it in three, that they'd all stay blue? Orange county and the central valley are very reliably red, and there are a lot of rural areas that would go red as well.
I rather see Cali work to regain the status of 6th largest economy in the world, as we were for many years before the repub "guvernors" did their handiwork.
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Tue May-31-11 08:57 PM
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10. Why not just eliminate some of the smaller states? |
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Do we REALLY need North AND South Carolina? Scratch two useless in-breds from Columbia...
How about going down to a single Dakota? Getting rid of two more Tea-bagging fools...
Senate is down to 46 now...
Hell, why stop there? Alabama and Mississippi? "Missabama" (This will REALLY kill some of them good old boys because it sounds an awful lot like politeness to our current first lady...)
Tennessee and Kentucky? "Tentucky"
Wyoming, Utah, Idaho and Colorado? "Wyutahorado" (Pronounced "Why-you-ta-rado"?)
With these changes, we can be down to 38 states, 76 Senators and a permanent Democratic majority from now on...
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Wed Jun-01-11 12:50 PM
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11. Love Thom, but this is a terrible Idea |
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Edited on Wed Jun-01-11 12:52 PM by ptownbro
Not only is this impossible, but it also won't fix the problem of the filibuster at all and could hurt liberals/progressives in the long run by adding more red state senators.
If you really want to fix the filibuster problem all you need to do is this:
Limit the number of filibuster that can be used per session by any party.
I could go on with a lengthy defense, but I'll try to keep it as short as possible... This idea will still keep the meaning of the filibuster intact (which is to protect the interests of the minority) while preventing the abuse of its use. With a limited number, the party which tries to use it will be forced to wait for the more important issues to apply it. Also, it's the only idea that actually has a chance of happening.
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