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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 02:26 PM
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TDPS: Does Texas boy dying from dehydration punishment mean psych screening for parents is necessary
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donthebun Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 02:29 PM
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1. I've been saying parents should be prescreened for years
Will never happen though
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 03:13 PM
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2. The commentator is wrong: one can certainly die in five days from dehydration


Reports indicate:

"... the boy suffered .. was denied drinking water for five days in July ... his parents put Jonathan in a room without air conditioning and told him to stand by the window with the sun beating down on him ..."

Daytime air temperatures in central Texas were above 100F during that period. At those temperatures it is possible for an adult to sweat away quarts, and perhaps gallons, of water a day, depending on clothing, wind, sun, and exercise level

With inadequate water intake, cessation of sweating will threaten the body's heat regulation and can contribute to prompt fatal brain injury from heat-stroke. Cessation of urine production, associated with the body's attempt to conserve water, will affect blood chemistry

Dehydration-associated injury will vary with size of the victim, temperature, exposure, and other factors. Results will vary according to individual, but generally people will not survive more than a few days under such conditions: fatality might result within twenty-four hours for some people; five days might actually be an unusually long survival time; a reasonable average might be three days

 
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 03:16 PM
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JoshieR Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 03:41 PM
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4. If I had faith in the honesty of people in power in the US...
I think that parental licensing would be a great idea and would benefit children. Unfortunately I am fairly condifent that this system of licensing would allow for social engineering and bias. I just have to remember things like the corruption within child protective services and the judge in PA that sent kids to prison for a kickback to know why parent licensing is a bad idea.
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 03:58 PM
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5. I usually agree with David Pakman. But this time, I couldn't disagree more.
Terrible idea to preemptively take children away. Talk about Big Brother, damn. The criteria is all subjective. Smart and terrible people would fool the panel. Some good people would have their children taken away. As was mentioned, some would use their prejudice to take children away - plus a hundred other reasons. Although those are good enough.

And it doesn't take long to die of dehydration, especially in the heat.
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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:11 PM
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6. he made it clear he was simply playing devils advocate
and is not actually saying he believes that prescreening is a good idea
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 07:17 PM
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7. I caught that, and like I said, I usually agree with him - and really like his show - but he seemed
to me to be going a little further than devils advocate. If I'm wrong,then, sorry I misunderstood. But to me, he seemed to be playing David's Advocate.

I agree with him about 99% of the time. Them's pretty good odds.

Fan of the show.
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