Lars77
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Tue Oct-04-11 09:55 PM
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Real World MIA in Elections Rhetoric |
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geckosfeet
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Tue Oct-04-11 10:38 PM
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1. Don't get it. Right around 3:50 - 3:55 she blames the neo-liberal agenda for wage suppression. |
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I see just the opposite. I see the neo-conservative agenda - beginning perhaps with Nixon, pushing down wages and re-writing tax law to favor the rich and corporate agendas.
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SparkyOR
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Tue Oct-04-11 11:18 PM
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is not what you're thinking it is. Google it. http://web.inter.nl.net/users/Paul.Treanor/neoliberalism.htmlIt's liberal in that it espouses total deregulation, and freedom to do whatever, financially.
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Lars77
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Tue Oct-04-11 11:46 PM
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4. American conservatives are generally liberalists when it comes to the economy. |
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Its just that all the terms are screwed up in american political lingo
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geckosfeet
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Wed Oct-05-11 07:17 AM
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7. OK - thanks. Yeah - political classification lingo in the US simply does not |
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make sense to me. I always see the word neo as simply meaning new. And if I were to put myself in any political camp it would certainly be liberal. Without knowing the difference, I would have aligned myself the neo-liberals as well.
Thanks for the info.
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Tue Oct-04-11 11:46 PM
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3. Milton Friedman, the University of Chicago |
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School of Economics, Alan Greenspan, Ron Paul and pretty much the entire Tea Party belong in the neoliberal camp. Through the UofC they foisted this type of economy onto South American countries, which ruined them and begat bloodshed and military takeover. Crisis capitalism, in other words.
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Tue Oct-04-11 11:49 PM
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neoconservatism is a way of looking at war and national hegemony. Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and George Bush are all neocons.
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Tue Oct-04-11 11:55 PM
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6. Yep, they are in a sense a perversion of Wilsonian idealism. |
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Wilson wanted to set a moral standard for the entire world. Which was self-determination, personal freedom, democracy etc. Basically every time you hear an American president talk about stuff like this for other countries, it´s Woodrow Wilson talking.
But the neocons believe that instead of creating a supernational democratic system where the world community can legally use force against other countries who dont behave, neocons believe that the US should be that enforcer, and that the US has a right to use force onto other countries in the best interest of the world (of course like Wilson, they dont actually do that in real life, they also use a healthy dose of "realpolitik").
Basically neocons seem to believe that if you erase a totalitarian states institutions completely, i.e. destroying the country´s institutions by force, democracy will somehow automatically flurish, like democracy is like the natural state of humankind or something. Obviously they have never read any history before 1776..
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