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Tue Oct-25-11 09:39 AM
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Message from ANON to Keith Olbermann, Dylan Ratigan, & Lawrence O'Donnell |
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Run time: 01:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjacSsi-PV8
Posted on YouTube: October 20, 2011
By YouTube Member: TheANONymouslyFree
Views on YouTube: 1053
Posted on DU: October 25, 2011
By DU Member: Donnachaidh
Views on DU: 1790 | This message is for Keith Olbermann, Dylan Ratigan, and Lawrence O'donnell. Hello, this is anonymous. We have been watching you very closely and wish to express our thanks to you for having some integrity while reporting on the occupy movement. More at the link --
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MADem
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Tue Oct-25-11 09:43 AM
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1. Why are these guys acting like they are "in charge" of the OWS movement? |
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I personally -- and this is just my opinion -- think they take away from it, not add to it.
I like seeing real people out there, with real lives and real stories, not masked clowns.
It may be a generational thing, but to me, it's a question of credibility.
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Tue Oct-25-11 10:08 AM
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Good word..."clowns." They're ridiculously self-immportant. What have they accomplished? Shut down the website for the NYSE, not the exchange itself, for 2 minutes and revealed the identities of a bunch of BART riders.
They didn't start OWS, and they don't own it.
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Tue Oct-25-11 10:14 AM
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5. I have said this before, and I will speculate once again. |
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They do not seem "real" to me. They seem manufactured. And by manufactured, I mean manufactured by people who work for the government and are pretending to be younger than they actually are.
I could be way off base, but they just smell fake to me--like a COINTELPRO outfit from back in the day.
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Tue Oct-25-11 02:34 PM
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13. Comes across that way to me too. nt |
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Tue Oct-25-11 10:09 AM
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3. Get the fuck off your high horse. |
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They are NOT claiming they are 'in charge' of anything. They are in support of OWS, and sharing their appreciation of those media figures who are reporting honestly on it.
Stop making shit up, just to demean the left.
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MADem
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Tue Oct-25-11 10:12 AM
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4. I am not on a high horse. Stop being so "fucking" confrontational with me. |
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I gave my OPINION and made it clear that it was just that.
These masked banditos issue "directives" like they are running the show.
I find them annoying and stupid, and distracting from the purpose of the protests.
And no, my views do NOT "demean the left" just because they are different from yours, you intolerant cuss. A true lefty accomodates divergent views, and doesn't march in lockstep like a mindless tin soldier.
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Tue Oct-25-11 10:50 AM
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8. There was NOTHING in that very brief message that claimed they 'own' OWS. |
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Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 11:09 AM by RaleighNCDUer
They have made ZERO proprietary claims of speaking for 'the left' - they have only ever spoken for themselves, as a collective.
You are attacking them, making unfounded, unsupportable claims about them and their motives. "A true lefty accommodates divergent views, and doesn't march in lockstep like a mindless tin soldier." If you believe that, then what are you doing attacking Anonymous? Hypocrisy, much?
They speak in SUPPORT of those who are fighting the class war.
You attack THEM. That sounds like divide and conquer, to me. Who is the better COINTELPRO suspect here?
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On second thought, there is not COINTELPRO evidence on either side - they specialized in provoking violence to justify crackdowns by police. You are not doing that - neither is Anonymous. You're just spewing the normal Third Way bullshit that marginalizes any efforts by the left. You're not the enemy. You're just wrong.
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Tue Oct-25-11 11:52 AM
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9. And there was nothing in their proprietary language that disavowed it, either. |
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Go away. Stop engaging me if my views cause you such hyperbolic angst.
I really don't care to debate someone who cannot grasp nuance.
You don't have to give my opinion any regard whatsoever, but you can stop acting like a sanctimonious and didactic ass.
"Third way bullshit" my left foot--is that what you say every time your preconceived notions are challenged? Tiresome. When you can't tell a comment from an attack, you're the one with issues.
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Tue Oct-25-11 02:24 PM
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12. Keith Olbermann doesn't own OWS but he speaks well for it as this rock the world commentary |
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on 8/1/11 illustrates before the first occupying protest even began http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndkRgj6j-PgThis is the kind of public commentary the corporate media should have been coming out with years ago.
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Tue Oct-25-11 02:08 PM
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11. They've been involved since the planning stages. |
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Tue Oct-25-11 05:15 PM
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14. My understanding is that the whole thing started on a blog by some activists in Canada. |
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They just jumped in after people started talking about it.
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Tue Oct-25-11 05:56 PM
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15. Actually it started in Spain, nearly a year ago. |
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Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 06:02 PM by sabrina 1
Anonymous have been a part of it worldwide from the beginning. The whole foundation of the Movement was the idea of the Spanish 'Indignados' (sp) movement, the General Assemblies, the occupations, rather than one day demonstrations. It spread across Europe after the Spanish Indignados began their occupation last May. And Anonymous was involved so when it was suggested by the Canadian blogger, it was not a new idea and Anonymous' almost immediate involvement was no surprise, but rather expected.
The October 15 Global Demonstrations eg, were planned before the movement began here, and Anonymous had put up videos last summer urging people to join that 'Day of Rage'. So far from OWS starting the movement, they merely joined the Global Revolution but that did give a lot of hope to the Europeans as they have been opposing their governments with strikes, demonstrations etc for nearly two years now.
The French activists eg, have been fierce, with countrywide strikes against their governments Austerity programs, and with their Unions kidnapping Corporate CEOS, or preventing them from going home when they refused to talk to them. Now, the people of all these countries are uniting.
I do agree that Anonymous may not be what they appear to be. They are in every country in the world, you can see their presence in almost all the worldwide demonstrations. But I have no ideas about who they may, well none that have any basis in fact. I do have some theories which are probably all wrong :-)
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Tue Oct-25-11 06:28 PM
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16. I have heard of the Indignados. |
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Thanks for the tutelage--there's no real history written of this business yet. All things in time, I guess!
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Tue Oct-25-11 10:28 AM
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7. Good, every voice counts and is needed. |
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Tue Oct-25-11 12:31 PM
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10. don't see any ownership here, just an anonymous 'thank you' to the |
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only media people keeping this story front and center.
what's the problem?
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Tue Oct-25-11 07:46 PM
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17. The graphics are a little pretentious and distracting |
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