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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:04 PM
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Even Rand Paul is against Defense Authorization Act - 11/29/11
 
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:06 PM
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1. Rand Paul is a racist douchebag just like his old man
I really don't give a shit what this asshole thinks.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:09 PM
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2. Not going to argue with u on that
but what does it say about the people that voted for or sponsored this bill?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:18 PM
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3. Perhaps a coalition of progressives and (dare I say it?) Tea Partiers can beat this montrosity back?
Politics makes strange bedfellows.
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:22 PM
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5. more likely
the national security dems and repubs will come together and pass the police state bill. Fascist Germany here we come
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:32 PM
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6. I'll be optimistic for now
If I'm wrong, I'll be in a concentration camp later.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:39 PM
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7. On individual issues, the progressives and the right can work together.
Rand also opposed the PATRIOT ACT.
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:44 PM
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8. Very true
Like Audit of the fed which was written by Senior Paul, supported by socialist and which is paying massive dividends now. Wish they can work their magic on this one but am not holding out too much hope, it will get more the the required yea votes to overcome an Obama veto if at all he vetos it.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:46 PM
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9. Bernie Sanders and Jim Inhofe worked together to try to stop the TARP scam in 2008.
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:54 PM
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10. TARP scam?
Most people still think it was a success. They claim we made some profit and every cent has been paid off. Yes, TARP was a big wealth transer, a huge tax increase on the poor and give away to wall street no matter what the suckers here on DU tell u.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 09:46 AM
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14. I think we are beyond the tipping point. This bill just makes this ultimate power
of the President official. Bush set the precedent and the courts backed him up. The government can arrest anyone as a terrorist suspect and detain them indefinitely without due process. The genie is out of the bottle.

OWS watch out.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:20 PM
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4. Amazing how many posts praising GOPers. Can't escape the GOP media, it's all we've got.
Questions need to be asked about Dems supporting the Patriot Act, but overall, the Tea Party/GOP officials are not friends of anyone but their corporate masters, and that especially includes Rand Paul who has more positions change the weather does.

We have another thread praising another GOP Tea Party official for this same reason and pointing the finger at Dems as if this is the only issue, when it isn't.

Probably the only reason they are against it is their donors aren't getting enough green. Rand already backed off his campaign promises to keep those defense and security contracts for his state.

Oh, BTW, screw the GOP and the Tea Party.

:thumbsdown:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 09:42 AM
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13. I think you missed the point of the post. It wasnt to praise the GOP but to show the failure of
the Democratic Party to save us from this extreme violation of our Constitution. Granted the GOP wants to scrap the Constitution but apparently do does the Democratic Party.

Why are you trying to distract from this tremendously important issue by trying to shift focus to the GOP? We know the GOP is our enemy. But apparently Obama and the Senate Democrats are also attacking our Constitution. Which is the more important story?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:55 PM
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11. That was awesome.
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 06:57 PM by Blue_In_AK
I even wrote him an e-mail thanking him. I stated that I'm a far-left progressive and very seldom find myself in agreement with him, but on this one, he's dead right. I said John McCain, of all people, should recognize the dangers inherent in indefinite detention without charges or trial, and that it made my blood run cold to think that there are senators who believe this is a good idea.


Like I said, I don't agree with him on much, but I felt compelled to give him an "attaboy" on this.
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nineteen50 Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 07:42 PM
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12. Doesn't matter who you are, when you are right you are right.
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