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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:02 AM
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Dennis Kucinich on Paul/Kucinich ticket idea
 
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Sponsored by the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance: http://NHLiberty.org ... Ridley Report corners Dem. prez candidate Dennis Kucinich and asks: "If you lose, and Ron Paul asks you to be his Veep candidate, what will you say?"


Question's at 2:11

Answer: "I like Ron Paul."
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:06 AM
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1. Answer the question, it's a straight-forward question.
Geez.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:24 AM
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4. "Kucinich fails to deny interest in Republican/Democrat Paul/Kucinich ticket!"
The above is why the question needed a direct answer.
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FtWayneBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:39 AM
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6. Three big "ifs" in the question:
If DK loses the nomination,
If RP wins the nomination,
If RP asks DK to be his veep, would he?

DK is not ready to accept all of the "ifs" at this time.

He is running to win.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:08 AM
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2. I could live with
"I like Ron Paul". I like a lot of people who I disagree with on policy but I will not be able to live with DK on an RP ticket or RP on a DK ticket. Waiting.......
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:16 AM
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3. punked
once again
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:29 AM
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5. Not impressed by that answer...
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 11:32 AM by polichick
Coy doesn't cut it imo.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 12:06 PM
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7. C'mon Dennis.
Set this straight! If he is willing to run with a pub/libertarinut as a dem pub or independent, I need to know. Paul is a deal breaker, show stopper.

I am disappointed in all this.
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 12:38 PM
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8. The fascinating point about it is that
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 12:38 PM by rjones2818
NH Liberty Alliance is almost certainly alligned with Paul, and yet all of the Dems have decided to jump Dennis wondering what Paulistas think. Kinda funny that!

Why do Ron Paul supporters fear Dennis???

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 12:41 PM
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9. Any ticket Paul is on..
I won't support or vote for.

His views on no govt spending for social programs
or for people who are needy or under-represented,
I find unconscionable.

Then there are his ties with white supremacy.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 12:48 PM
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10. Don't need 'Nother Nader
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 12:54 PM
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11. "Hey, Dennis- what would you think about being half of the Nader/Nader '08 Ticket?"
Dude- Dennis has too much class to even consider such a move. Just 'cause his wife answered it in a way rather flattering to Ron Paul- the libertarian nutters are jumping all over this in a sad last ditch effort of growing their numbers from the 4500 nation-wide Paul constituency.

Ron Paul WANTS to split the GOP like Nader did to the DEMs. Kooch loves America too much to wanna fuck the party like that.
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Bunkie0913 Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 01:16 PM
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12. Oh, that Dennis
I love Dennis Kucinich. He leans in that car and talks to those folks. Then he shows such love and compassion for that young boy with Autism. How can anyone not love Dennis? The last best hope, Dennis Kucinich.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 01:43 PM
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13. It's like asking
if you became an eagle would you fly with me if I became a duck?
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Mark D. Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 02:41 PM
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14. No Way
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 02:42 PM by Mark D.
Clearly, Dennis was there in a chipper mood to help Autism.
One who does a swoop in type of questioning can't expect
the most perfect responses. He didn't want to insult the
fools, I'm sorry, people who like Ron Paul. I'm sorry,
but if you support Paul you're fooled. End the war,
retore liberties. I agree with him there. But it
is where it ends. Unlike Ron Paul...Kucinich is
not a corporate-liberal Libertarian politico.

If Paul was VP, maybe I'd support it, he'd hopefully be too
old after 8 years of DK as prez to run & he'd just go away.

Though clearly, Biden would be a better VP. But for sheer
'winnability', and let's face it, Biden/Kucinich is the best
order and choice. Biden can break thru to neanderthals
in the 'I'd rather have a beer with' crowd who base a
vote on 'machismo' vs. important issues. Biden would
clean up any GOP in a debate better than even DK &
it would make the ticket appear more 'moderate' &
Dennis would still be young enough and much more
widely known/respected in 8 years to be a prez.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 03:52 PM
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15. imo...and dem candidate with Ron Paul would help normalize things in DC
Maybe they would actually work us and for moderation of ideas instead of a win-at-all-cost-corporately-owned presidents.
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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 05:27 PM
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16. I like Ron Paul also
Something is wrong with anyone that does not like Ron Paul.

The man is solidly against the war in Iraq and also against our massive government spending on our corporate military. This counts for a hell of a lot.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 05:42 PM
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17. He is also against abortion rights,
Public Education, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc. He does not believe in investing in Our country and The People. And this is a time that We desperately need investments in infrastructure, and social services.

I don't like Paul's ideals. The only good thing I can say about him is I like that he divide the dying Party.
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jph wacheski Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 09:57 PM
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21. something IS wrong!
"Something is wrong with anyone that does not like Ron Paul." yeah and your either with us or with the terror. . .

Ron Paul seems like a nice enough fellow, he IS against the war, but not an active proponent of PEACE like Kucinich. He would not reach out to the world, as Kucinich speaks of doing, with a Department of Peace. Paul would never fund such a thing. He is against all programs of social-uplift such as medical care for all, or public utilities,. anything that is people working together to help each other fairly,. he would replace it all with a fully privatized world,. i.e. NON-democratic corporate rule! I am not impressed with Paul and his anarcho-capitalist 'vision',. . he sees government as a tool to protect and enhance wealth,. and not to lift us ALL,. just the lucky and the well connected., sounds like scientology's "Prosperity for the ABLE." crap to me,. I will take Dennis Kucinich with Strength Through PEACE over any Ron Paul repug claptrap about 'personal freedom',. when will america learn that when a repug. speaks of 'freedom' they only mean the freedom of private CAPITAL not the freedom of actual people! Yeah the bankers will LOVE Ron Paul!

from his site;
"The federal government has proven itself untrustworthy with environmental policy by facilitating polluters, subsidizing logging in the National Forests, and instituting one-size-fits-all approaches that too often discriminate against those they are intended to help."

Yeah the repugs plan is to pillage and wast all programs of social-uplift,. and then stand back pointing saying 'look the gov. don't work, its wasteful, lets just let the capitalist run the show, they know what's best.' You see this tactic over and over because it has been working for them. people fall for it,.

his site say:

"The strict enforcement of property rights corrects environmental wrongs while increasing the cost of polluting.
In a free market, no one is allowed to pollute his neighbor's land, air, or water. If your property is being damaged, you have every right to sue the polluter"

yeah right,. that'll work,. NOT! I have no property so where does that leave me? so with no environmental regulations you have to wait till the damage is done and then pay lawyers to litigate for damages, how does that replace a stream ot a forest?

Go to Ron Paul's site, he has no real platform,. only don't regulate capitalism,. and don't create any programs of society building,. . its pathetic really,. .
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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:00 AM
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22. OK, I was way careless with words there
But I still like Ron Paul for his stand on the war and Iraq.

He has many other good insights and ideas also and not just on Iraq but also on monetary policy and corporate corruption of government.

Our government has become so corrupt that we have to look outside the box a bit.

I do not support Ron Paul, but I might prefer him to what we have now. Although I am pro-choice and wouldn't mind outlawing guns altogether. And also I support HR 676 and I doubt very much that Paul would. etc. etc.

I think the attack on Ron Paul has become so hyperbolic as that it has lost its sense.


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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 06:06 PM
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18. What a beautiful video - thank you - and thank you Dennis. nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 07:05 PM
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19. Well, not everyone can see it, but that was a rejection of a stupid idea.
You could see Kucinich process the question, and with his great sense of humor said, "I like Ron Paul." Then he laughed.

If this snowballs, which it seems to be, he will clarify and correct it. Kucinich choses his words carefully. He didn't have time to give a lengthy answer, but we will soon see that their is no chance in hell Kucinich would run with Paul. It is rediculous.

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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 08:26 PM
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20. Exactly!
Dennis was having fun and didn't want to insult his friend.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:57 PM
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24. Indeed, you can almost see him go "say what?" and think what a ridiculous idea that is...
Lighten up folks, Kucinich stays Kucinich.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:43 PM
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23. that was a great answer
A lot of people would like to see a Kucinich/Paul team-up, despite the ideological differences, just because both of them have respect for the Constitution. It ain't gonna happen, but I think the wishful thinking is an indicator of just how widespread is the desire for hemming in the police state and reducing the influence of corporations.

Also, the friendship between DK and Paul is refreshing, ain't it? Remember when politicians were expected to find common ground--without abandoning their principles--in order to take proper care of the country, instead of raising the level of hate rhetoric to the point where sometimes actual violence breaks out? I'd like to see a lot more actual respect like these two men are displaying.
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 03:09 PM
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25. We can't have that
Get with the program it's about divide and conquer... the rich protecting the rich. :P Keeping the poor and "middle class" at a maximum. The super elite must laugh at us when we fight over petty crap. Especially when they spoon feed us the manure.

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