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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:18 PM
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Michael Ware on Civil War in Iraq
 
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"Anyone who still remains in doubt of whether this is a civil war or not is suffering from the luxury of distance."
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:37 PM
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1. Ware is the best reporter in Iraq, bare none
He actually says what is happening and doesn't sugar coat it. I suspect there are very few reporters left in Iraq and he seems to be almost begging for people to wake up to how horrific it is for all those involved on all sides.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:45 PM
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21. Michael Ware appears to have been in that mess long enough
to "feel" the pain of both sides of this war and believes that he does not need to suck up to Bush and Company. Iraq is one Big F---Up and he seems to care and may the devil do what's necessary. He is telling it like he sees it along with the blond female on CNN, with the unusual name?, who also looks oh so grim when reporting.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 04:01 AM
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35. Dahr Jamail was good, too, when he was there.
eom
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:55 PM
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2. And the White House remains distant and in denial
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:08 PM
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17. Bush is so much in Denial...
I often wonder if he's not an Egyptian.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:00 PM
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3. What a brave man, I fear for him. At what point will the world
take this administration to task for what they have done. Bring our forces home now. We will pay for this blunder, this atrocity, forever with our treasure, let us not waste any more lives on something that we can not control. I can not comprehend the silence of the rest of the world. Every country should be shouting as loud as possible.
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Broken Top Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:35 PM
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7. At what point will the world wake up?
I fear the world will not wake up! It is impossible for anyone to believe the world does not see and understand the Bush administration, the Republican party and Americans who continue supporting the terrorist agenda of this administration. The U.S. is guilty of unleashing a war of terror upon the Iraqis and our failures and bungling have allowed it to morph into a civil war of revenge killings.
The ho hum reaction of Kyra Phillips to Mr. Ware's report is typical media. A reporter can be communicating the horror of what is transpiring in this war but the response from the media desk is simply: Thanks for your report. Now on to black Friday in the shopping malls!
Because of media collusion to protect Bush & Company, no American outrage is ever projected. Therefore, why should the rest of the world take the initiative to remove our own personal gang of war criminals. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell and all the unelected White House and Pentagon neo-cons who lied us into this fiasco belong in The Hauge tried as war criminals. It is every American's responsibility to try and get them there.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:20 PM
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12. Welcome to DU, Broken Top!
Great post.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:03 PM
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4. B*sh should be tied to a chair with his eyes taped open
and be forced to watch this in a continous loop for 24 hours.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:07 PM
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5. Why not make that 24,000 hours? Just to be sure, you know. nt
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:20 PM
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30. We can do better than that...
He should be nailed to a chair and have his eyes sewn open and forced to watch "Fahrenheit 911" 3000 times in a row with a Dixie Chicks album playing full blast in his ear.

Newsprism
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:30 PM
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33. LOL! And it will only end when Cheney shoots him in the face. nt
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hurricaneric Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:27 PM
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6. It's great to have some honest reporting but ...
Where the hell did they get that video loop that kept playing while Ware told of the continuous ethnic cleansing and new phenomenon of mortar warfare within a single town? The one that showed pleasant scenes of life as normal, cars and buses running in traffic filled streets, people walking calmly through town. I cry foul!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:39 PM
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8. When this kind of truth gets on the air of our MSM you know how bad it really is...
The WH must be tied up in contortions every time Ware delivers a video report from Baghdad.

It is always worse than the news reports, which is characteristic of trying to cover a conflict like this. The stories that will come out later will shocking and heart rending.

We need to notify the UN we are leaving, and peacekeeping troops are needed immediately.
Nothing else can begin to stem the ethnic cleansing that is going on, and will be completed with the guaranteed fall of the Maliki Government.

However, there is still money to be made over there, too many bases built, for a pull out to happen anytime soon.

Another Vietnam ending I fear...
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:46 PM
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9. Sometimes ya have to go to another hemisphere to find a good reporter
Michael Ware is superb.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:46 PM
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10. Way to go bushCo. nt
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:04 PM
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11. "The president of Iraq has left the country on a business trip"?!?!
What the hell kind of president goes on a "business trip" under these conditions?

Two explanations:

1) He's fleeing the country and doesn't plan to return.
2) He's been hanging around George W. too long, and believes that disappearing for days while your country blows up is "presidential."

Or both,

The Plaid Adder
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:16 PM
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29. What the hell kind of president goes on a "business trip" under these conditions?
if you had said "vacation" I could tell you.
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Black Adder Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:27 PM
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13. IT'S NOT A CIVIL WAR!!!
George Bush says so...
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:44 PM
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14. Don't let the baboon in the White House hear you say that.
He will NEVER say those words in reference to Iraq, no matter how violent it gets over there...........
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:52 PM
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15. When this kind of fighting happened in Ireland what was it called?
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:02 PM
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16. It's not a civil war.
If it were, the Iraqi gov.t would be backing one of the factions. The gov.t has no one fighting for them. The gov.t has no clout, no strength to back their policies.

This is not civil war, this is anarchy.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:11 PM
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28. Hmmm, Shite El (?) Sadar seems to have boo coos of influence
with Iraq's Leader. They (the Shite) seem to be exhibiting all kinds of killing clout in Iraq. Sunni's appear to be destined to dissappear from the scene due to plain math, more Shites than Sunnis and Kurds. So, Iraqi, civil war = religion/politics vs different religion/politics, then throw in U.S. troops to stir the pot...... A war between factions in the same country, per dictionary. Anarchy is no controling factions. Shite seems to be the controling factor since they are in the majority.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:19 PM
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36. Actually it is technically an
occupation since the Government's support exist only as long as the US/UK troops are there.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:10 PM
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18. What an oxymoron.
If there was ever an oxymoron, Civil War is on the top of the list. There is nothing Civil about War.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:28 PM
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19. I think the civil means within a country. That's what I heard yesterday.
War among the people of a country rather than war between countries.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:33 PM
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20. I tried to put myself in curious georges shoes
watching the news.
Hearing about thousands of people dying every day because of what "I" did.

I could not live with myself!!!!

How the FUCK does he not feel guilty?! How does he sleep at night? Does he live in a bubble and ignore it? He cannot possibly believe things are going well. It is utterly inconceivable!

I can't come to any conclusion except bush is a fucking monster!

INVESTIGATE.....IMPEACH!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:54 PM
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BeliQueen Donating Member (433 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:07 PM
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23. Please enlighten
If you could, please describe Iraq before the U.S. invasion. And during your description, point to some actual references--like human rights watch groups' reports, or news articles--that back up your view of antebellum Iraq.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:48 PM
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:59 PM
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25. Saddam wasn't always bad....
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:59 PM
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26. Later freeper...
Traditional Values - a highly unbiased and reputable source. Right... :sarcasm:

Here lies a freeper...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:07 PM
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27. LOL! That was fast!
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:27 PM
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31. Say what you will about Saddam...
Under his rule, none of this crap would have happen.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:17 PM
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32. Saddam's attack on the Kurds is microscopic compared to Bush's genocide in Iraq
That's what it truly is.
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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:30 PM
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34. Why is everyone getting their panties tied up in knots over whether we can call this a "civil war"
It's like none of this bloodshed and destruction matters unless Bush officially declares it as such, and you know he will never acknowledge that it's a civil war.

Typical MSM. Debate about the debate instead of just delivering us real news.
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