I feel this is an important comment from Cindy showing EXACTLY where she stands - WITH us

[Divine Discontent]

The fur was flying when she announced she was leaving the Democratic party a few days ago, and people said things like - she was a Democrat? and said she only was on our side because of the war - well HERE - read this (and this is for everyone who might miss it as I readily admit I miss stuff all the time and appreciate it being taken out of a story and made a post - I rarely have time to do this but tonight my brother whom I care for is with my Mom so I had time)

Proof she stands on the liberal side of politics -"If we're gonna get a Democrat in the White House that acts like a Republican, what's the difference?" - Cindy Sheehan to Ed Schultz on his show

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Cindy_Sheehan_on_Ed_Shultz_show_0529.html

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. My favorite Cindy quote:

"Why should we support Democrats who support the war just because they aren't Republicans who support the war?"

[jgraz]

3. And people question why so many of us hold her in high regard

She's against the war. Period. Why is anyone surprised when she comes out against politicians who support the war?

[conscious evolution]

8. Everything she has done

has been aimed at stopping the war.
How people can't see that is beyond me.

[Divine Discontent]

5. right on! I added you as a friend btw proud2blib! your posts rock n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Wow thanks

We can add friends? Cool! How do we do that?

[Divine Discontent]

10. I was trying to add your journal to my page

and figured out the add as a friend thing just to the right of your name, it's the silhouette image of the head with the green plus symbol. I will use it for a follow up list if I ever have questions or need advice from that list of people on anything, you never know.

later! :)

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. Oh yeah I know about that

I was thinking it was like on myspace. LOL :rofl:

Sometimes I am NOT very smart.

[Divine Discontent]

15. LOL n/t

[Divine Discontent]

11. I finally remember how to add your journal to the right side of my page

I have other faves on their already, but forgot how, it's the "add this journal to my blogroll" on the right side of anyone's journal..

:hug:

"The pure in heart shall see God"

[rodeodance]

2. at the moment she is tired and angry. I thank her for her work.

[Divine Discontent]

4. ha! great summation in 8 words! thanks for the succinct point! n/t

[az chela]

9. Cindy isnt angry,she is disgusted that she has worked so

hard with so many people and with very little support.
She has been on the road for 3 years and totally worn out and gets very little help.
She is NOT a quitter,she will still be working just as hard but maybe it will be behind the scenes
for awhile.When she is ready she will continue her mission ,it is her choice when that will be.
In the meantime send her love and respect and healing

[aquart]

6. She's a Gold Star mother. She can stand anyplace she wants.

She can hold any opinion she wants. She can stand with any group she wants.

She's a Gold Star mother.

[northzax]

12. gee, where have I heard that line before?

oh, right, Ralph Nader. think he was right? would President Gore have been President Bush?

I hope she is happy after the seventh year of the Guiliani Presidency, surely we will look back and say, 'Hey, this is not any worse than President Hillary Clinton would have done."

President Bush, President Gore, what's the fucking difference? that is not a 'liberal statement' it is the statement of a single issue absolutist. Cindy Sheehan has one issue, which is fine, but there are other issues to think about as well. if President Obama enacted national healthcare, free university education, eliminated the deficit, created strict environmental laws and restructured the tax system to make it more progressive, but didn't end the war immediately, Cindy Sheehan would consider that a failure. that worldview is, tactically speaking, no different than anti-abortion, or AIPAC, or any of a dozen single-issue folks for whom the world is black and white, you are either with me or against me.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Oh you mean like you either support the Dems

or you are a traitor?

Like that?? :)

[Divine Discontent]

19. I think you take the comment the wrong way

I take it as she's saying, if you read the link, that we need to have candidates wanting to get out Iraq, not worried about elections, themselves getting elected president, campaigns. And what's the difference if they're going to be cloaked in democratic namesake only to bow down to republican talking points and ideology... just my thoughts, again I think you misinterpret the message.

[SaveElmer]

16. Just a variation on Ralph Nader's...

"Not a Dimes worth of difference" comment...

Same level of truth to it as well...

[nosmokes]

17. OFFS!

when was the democratic party granted the exclusive to liberal or progressive thought and action? because they're blowing it as far as all the DLC bots and corporatist shills and military apologists are concerned.

take the fucking blinders off that the dem party can do no wrong. did you realise that for years the national dem party website had no mention of the environment on it, not one single word? this was just a little while back, 3or 4 years, maybe 5. but not a word about the environment. that's some fucking progressive ideals there, yessir.

all i'm saying is face reality or face another 4 years with the dems being less relevant in the public's eye.

[SaveElmer]

18. Gawd...

The same rant every time....same buzzwords, same phraseology, same empty rhetoric...

It is simply not factual there wasn't a "dimes worth of difference" between Gore and Bush...as we have seen to our everlasting pain...

And it is simply not factual that there isn't a "dimes worth of difference" between the current crop of candidates and the sorry lot the Republicans are putting up...

You complain that the Democratic Party didn't mention the environment on their website..whatever, I doubt that is true, but even accepting your word, do you seriously believe there has not been a dramatic difference between the two parties on the environment for the last 60 years?

All the absolutist rhetoric, all the hand wringing that third parties can't get elected, all the angst and whining whenever some Democrat or another doesn't vote precisely as people here would like does not hide the fact that on balance...by a large margin, the Democratic Party is the party of progress...

[nosmokes]

21. so you think that this system works?

you think that for a country w/ 300 million folks in it that we can shove em all into one of two boxes when it comes to political ideology? the same party that represents a single guy in southern california can equally represent an urban single mother of 4 in the NE or a small business owner in the deep south? I don't buy it. sure, they'll have some overlapping interests but that's what caucuses are supposed to be for.

and no way can you equate what sheehan said or what i'm saying as saying there's no difference between the parties. but what we are saying is that neither major party is representing *our* interests. instead both the democratic party and the republican are representing the military industrial complex, albeit in different ways. but the corporate interests definitely come before the interests of the poor and the working class. i'll give ya this - on balance, the democratic party is less dangerous than the republican. but they're not gonna really do anything w/ the farm bill. they've already caved in to the GMO industry on that and they're in the process of removing the land conservation easements in committee before the break. do you think there's really gonna be radical campaign finance reform? i mean radical, like no more than say $20 from any one person in any election cycle.

sure there's a difference but there's also a need for more chairs at the table.

as a member of oregon's green party we're not planning on putting up any kind of challenge to DeFazio or Wyden. in fact i'll be supporting both of them w/ time and money. but the Party, especially as long as people like harry reid are in charge and the DLC still carries so much sway, won't be seeing a cent from me.

[Xenotime]

20. You can comment all you want...

the fact is there are too many neo-libs here that follow what the media does. I knew when Cindy wasn't the "thing" anymore they would drop her. Many here at DU did the same.