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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:26 PM
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"We do all of the extraordinary rendition flights — you know the torture flights..."
"We do all of the extraordinary rendition flights — you know the torture flights. Let's face it, some of these flights end up that way." - former Jeppesen employee


ACLU to sue Boeing subsidiary in alleged torture cases

"Since at least 2001, Jeppesen Dataplan Inc., of San Jose, "has provided direct and substantial services to the United States for its so-called 'extraordinary rendition' program, enabling the clandestine and forcible transportation of suspects to secret overseas detention facilities where they are placed beyond the reach of the law and subjected to torture and other forms of cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment," the suit alleges.

Publicly available records demonstrate that Jeppesen facilitated more than 70 secret rendition flights over a four-year period to countries where it knew or reasonably should have known that detainees are routinely tortured or otherwise abused in contravention of universally accepted legal standards," the suit states.


Corporations should expect to get sued where they are making blood money off the suffering of others, said Clive Stafford Smith, an English lawyer who has been representing Binyam Mohammed and is serving as co-counsel with the ACLU lawyers in this case"
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:30 PM
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1. I thought Jeppesen officially denied any knowledge of their planes being used for ExRen
Their policy was something like "What happens on the plane, stays on the plane."
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:31 PM
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2. Guess the denial didn't stop anything
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:31 PM
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3. Yeah -- "Let's face it"
:mad:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:37 PM
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4. Yep - it was said just as causally as you please
Disgusting
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 04:40 AM
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5. kick for the morning
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 04:55 AM
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6. many of these companies are CIA shells
according to many articles I have read. Including this Devon Holding in NC.....

<snip>

The dossier shows A Raytheon Hawker 800XP plane operated by Wells Fargo Bank Northwest, with registration N168BF, pictured at Edinburgh on June 20 last year.

And another plane, a CASA with registration N187D, is pictured parked at Edinburgh Airport on August 25. The plane, operated by North Carolina firm Devon Holding & Leasing, was believed to be en route from Seville, but had operated from Kabul for the first half of 2005 before its trip north.

A further 12 planes that have stopped at Glasgow and Prestwick airports are also detailed in the report.

These include a Gulfstream jet dubbed the "Guantanamo Bay Express", which was reportedly used to transport suspects to the US prison in Cuba. The jet stopped at Glasgow and Prestwick five times between 2002 and the end of 2004, according to the dossier.

Another plane identified in the report is a DC 9 airliner which has been the focus of debate by the Norwegian government and the Canadian Parliament.

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1227&id=87312006
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:14 PM
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7. There is more than enough evidence for criminal investigations
and charges

and yet...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 06:50 AM
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9. Have you seen this?
apparently our Democrats in the senate do not have the power to shut this program down. Or at least claim they do not. They should refuse all funding until it is eliminated! :grr:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-intel1jun01,1,4629304.story

WASHINGTON — washington — A Senate committee that has passed a bill to set funding levels for U.S. spy agencies suggests that the CIA's secret overseas prisons should be shut down unless the Bush administration can demonstrate that they are "necessary, lawful and in the best interests of the United States."

The committee's nonbinding report amounts to a fresh attack by Congress on the 5-year-old detention program, which has been credited with providing valuable intelligence on terrorism but has also been condemned by other countries.

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The bill would boost spy agencies' budgets to about $45 billion even as the committee calls for new scrutiny of controversial espionage programs. The bill is the first spending measure passed by the committee since Democrats won control of Congress in November's election.

Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.) has previously pushed for greater scrutiny of the CIA detention program, which has been used to hold high-value terrorism suspects including alleged Sept. 11 attack mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.

In the report, the committee acknowledges that detainees have "provided valuable information," but questions interrogation methods and their costs.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:12 AM
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10. Yeah, I saw that. Just more pretending that America doesn't torture
America is going to keep lying about it - keep pretending no one really knows what's happening...feigning ignorance

Disgusting

America - debating the "costs" of torture



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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:16 PM
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8.  K & R
for truth and accountability.
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