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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:00 PM Original message |
The trouble with the left and the real war on terrorism (not Iraq). |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. The rightwing |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. how does that help what is happening in Europe? |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Europe can look after itself |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I agree Iraq increased it but Denmark? |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I don't know much about Denmark |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I've read that they were surprised by the boycott which was very costly |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. The French muslims aren't fundamentalists... |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. As for Iraq |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. These are people who aren't and probably never will be "just like us". |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Its because they are Muslim, of course... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. damn, I keep forgetting that pesky "Muslim" thing. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. uh, because it is directed at us? n/t |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. so was McVeigh's bomb. n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. This guy overvalues "western" values way too much... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. what I'd like to know |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. maybe not going back in time? Freedom of speech and the press (such as it is) |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. sure, I just don't think we in the West have a corner on the market of reason. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Uhm, some muslim nations had democratic "western" traditions for as long or longer than Europe... |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I'm not arguing that point. What we did in Iran in 1953 was criminal. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Since when was treating Jews equally a "western" value, its a modern value... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. "We need to get our heads around what we have created" |
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StudentProgressive (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. Easy solution: ally with Muslims who are sick of this terrorism crap |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Welcome to DU, StudentProgressive! |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
13. I hear what you're saying, Hamlette |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Bin Laden himself |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. How can Al-Qaeda facilitate |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Because they are mostly run by dictators. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. whew, I was beginning to think I was the only one |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Have you ever been to a muslim country? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Actually, he should go to Alexandria Egypt... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Who the fuck are "them"? |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I"m talking about Qtub...where the jihadist movement started. n/t |
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Cults4Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. That is also true of most Muslims though. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
21. Sounds like brainless anti-muslim garbage to me |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
23. He's right, one problem is Fundamentalism. But the question is *how* do you fight? |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I agree. We absolutely MUST live up to ideals and be an example. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
28. This sounds like that RW spam that was going around |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
35. I don't buy that. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
39. It's not an either/or situation. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
40. western values like a record number of executions in TX? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
41. The difference between the right and the left on this is in how to confront this issue |
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