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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 06:49 PM
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Is Obama Black Enough?
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html

For all the predictable outrage Joe Biden's recent comments about Barack Obama elicited, the gaffe put a spotlight on one of the more unfortunate forces fueling Obamania. Ever since Barack Obama first ascended the national stage at the 2004 Democratic convention, pundits have been tripping over themselves to point out the difference between him and the average Joe from the South Side. Obama is biracial, and has a direct connection with Africa. He is articulate, young and handsome. He does not feel the need to yell "Reparations now!" into any available microphone.

But this is a double-edged sword. As much as his biracial identity has helped Obama build a sizable following in middle America, it's also opened a gap for others to question his authenticity as a black man. In calling Obama the "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," the implication was that the black people who are regularly seen by whites — or at least those who aspire to the highest office in the land — are none of these things. But give Biden credit — at least he acknowledged Obama's identity.

The same can't be said for others. "Obama's mother is of white U.S. stock. His father is a black Kenyan," Stanley Crouch recently sniffed in a New York Daily News column entitled "What Obama Isn't: Black Like Me." "Black, in our political and social vocabulary, means those descended from West African slaves," wrote Debra Dickerson on the liberal website Salon. Writers like TIME and New Republic columnist Peter Beinart have argued that Obama is seen as a "good black," and thus has less of following among black people. Meanwhile, agitators like Al Sharpton are seen as the authentic "bad blacks." Obama's trouble, asserted Beinart, is that he will have to prove his loyalty to The People in a way that "bad blacks" never have to. Obama, for his part, settled this debate some time ago. "If I'm outside your building trying to catch a cab," he told Charlie Rose, "they're not saying, 'Oh, there's a mixed race guy.'" Obama understands what all blacks, including myself, know all too well — that Amadou Diallo's foreign ancestry could not prevent his wallet from morphing into a gun in the eyes of the police.

For years pundits excoriated young black kids for attacking other smart successful black kids by questioning their blackness. But this is suddenly permissible for presidential candidates. Beinart's good black/bad black dynamic is the sort of armchair logic that comes from not spending much time around actual black people. As the New Republic points out, Sharpton has an overstated following among black people. In 2004, when Sharpton ran for President, his traction among his alleged base was underwhelming. In South Carolina, where almost half of all registered Dems were black, both John Kerry and John Edwards received twice as many black votes as Sharpton. But this hasn't stopped media outlets from phoning Sharpton whenever something even remotely racial goes down. And it hasn't stopped writers from touting Sharpton's presumed popularity among black people, as opposed to "palatable" black people like Obama.


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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:16 PM
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1. It's probably good for Obama that this debate is in Time
so that more people may be viscerally repelled by it.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:16 PM
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2. Blackness in this country...
Me being a black person from Latin America living here, I find it sad that some people might be questioning Obama's "blackness", or that others would see him as a "different kind of black man", just because he is "biracial" (or, as we would say in Puerto Rico, "mulato"). True, he is not the descendent of African slaves brought to American soil (when I say American, I mean it in a hemispherical sense), but he still goes through what all people of African descent go through. Racism cares about phenotypes, not about ethnic origins.

I'm Puerto Rican, but I've been discriminated several times in this country because of my skin color by people that don't know that I'm not African-American, and I've also been discriminated because of my ethnicity. My social experience is similar to the ones of many black people in America, regardless of ethnicity.

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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:20 PM
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3. Hey! He is HAWAIIAN!!
He was BORN HERE!!!!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:24 PM
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5. And as any 'Iolani grad could tell you,
he's extremely "articulate" for a Punahou grad! :P
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hcil Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:52 PM
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8. well:
iolani no ka oi:smoke:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:23 PM
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4. They said "articulate", too!!
What's next? A crawl on Faux News reading "Obama: Articulate or Clean?"?! :eyes:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:24 PM
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6. He was black enough, then he got clean
:rofl:
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Stu DeBeouf Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:26 PM
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7. One Drop...
That's what the standard used to be...
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:54 PM
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9. It Doesn't Matter
When Harold Ford, who is just to the right of Alan Keyes, ran for Senate, he grabbed 90 percent of the black vote. If Obama is the candidate, the black vote is in the bag, because he isn't some lizard-brained Republican.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 08:25 PM
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10. "Authenticity as a black man?" WTF? That's not racist?
Oh, and by the way, what are his stands on the issues?

All of this crap is shallow.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 08:30 PM
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11. Were Colin Powell and Tiger Woods considered "not black enough"?
My Thai students will tell you that Tiger Woods is that great Thai golfer. (He's 50% Thai). But he still gets hate mail and it's not about being Thai. Powell didn't run for President and it wasn't because of where his parents came from.
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