Congressman Nadler to Josh Marshall: "This is Worse than Watergate!

[KoKo]

Later today Representative Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), Chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, will hold the first in a series of oversight hearings titled, "The Constitution in Crisis: The State of Civil Liberties in America," delving into such issues as the NSA's domestic wiretapping program. Earlier this week we caught up with Congressman Nadler (he's TPM's congressman, after all), and in today's episode of TPMtv we talk with him about warrantless wiretapping, the politicization of the Justice Department, and that dusty old constitutional concept known as congressional oversight ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=389

Video Interview with Nadler at TPM. The "Worse than Watergate"...is near the end of the interview. Great Stuff! Assembling the evidence for Air Tight Impeachment!

[Tom Joad]

1. But they promise, promise... no impeachment! War with Iran on the table, impeachment

off the table. funding for iraq war on the table, impeachment off the table.

[KoKo]

4. I'm beginning to think that it's "On the Table" but they don't want to say that

because of what the Fox Audience and Media Megaphone from Drudge will do to change the perception before they can get all the evidence they need for the Impeachment. If they said it was "On the Table," the same folks calling for Libby Pardon would be crawling all over us.

I'm very discouraged about the Iraq Funding Vote...and all the years it seems our Dems in the House and Senate enabled the Bush Crime Family....but there's enough stuff coming out that they are forced to do something. Without the Cable Media and a Megaphone that Rober Ailes and Murdoch gave the Clinton Impeachment folks they have to do what they do maybe more quietly and with more diligence so the charges STICK!

That's what I'm thinking now...but we've been let down so many times it's hard not to be discouraged that this will lead to little. Still...the voters are ANGRY and this time maybe something will come of it.

[blm]

2. IranContra, BCCI, CIA drugrunning, Iraqgate, election theft of 2000 and 2004, and

and violating the IWR to invade Iraq were ALL worse than Watergate. BushInc is so used to getting let off the hook for their crimes of office they don't CARE what laws they break - they count on the Dems who will help them by making sure the books stay closed.

Will the NEXT Dem administration care about TRUTH enough to seek accountability?

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[BOSSHOG]

3. By February of 2009

republicans will have started impeachment proceedings against the democrat elected president in January 2009.

[KoKo]

6. lol's.....Gallows Humor...but a good one....

[BOSSHOG]

10. I seriously believe

its already in the works or something as sinister. In some right wing think tank plans to trash whomever gets elected are already in three ring binders and updated daily. Thats what they do best.

[KoKo]

5. Thanks for reposting, blm. That's a great article for those who missed it.

It's time to hold the Crime Family accountable.

BTW: BBC had report this a.m. (NPR) about Blair/Bandar Bush and the Saudi Connection to the BAE arms sales. Money Laundering and secret bank accounts that deals were made to allow the Saudi's to have because they were "an ally of GB and US in War on Terror. According to Blair they let this go one because Britian would lose 1,000 jobs if it was exposed and that we would lose our "ally on terror."

According to BBC...Bandar is now the BIG Honcho in Saudi Arabia. He beat out all his brothers and is in charge of Defense for the Saudi's. I remember big discussion on DU about why he sold his "ranch" in Texas and went back to Saudi Arabia and the sudden resignation of the Ambassador that had some of us wondering about a "power struggle" in the Royal Family. If Bandar Bush won....then we know the Bush Crime Family follows.

[blm]

8. Exactly. House of Saud-House of Bush is one huge crime network for global fascism.

And beware their Dem allies - because they will continue to grow in strength no matter what Bushboy does. They now have another favored 'adopted' son that talks good and smiles pretty for them.

[jwirr]

11. In our zeal to blame this war on oil we often forget the arms dealers

who keep these things going just for profit in their field. The military industrial complex is bigger than the Carlyle group. One profiteers off oil, another off of private contractors for supplies and rebuilding projects that cannot possibly be finished in the middle of a war and others profit from selling arms to both sides. They are all a bunch of sick bastards and should be brought down.

[blm]

13. Yep. Marc Rich wasn't named in IranContra and BCCI because he was just another wealthy tax evader.

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[L. Coyote]

7. Keeping impeachment right under the table, and under the radar.

For a long time now, it has been obvious that the Bushco illegalities are far worst than Watergate. Take this May 2005 letter "seeking answers to longstanding questions" as an example:

    Leahy, Specter Press For Answers On Administration’s Domestic Spying Program
    http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200705/052207a.html

    WASHINGTON (Tuesday, May 22) – Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Ranking 
    Member Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) sent a letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales seeking answers 
    to longstanding questions about the Bush Administration’s warrantless wiretapping program. ......

With 36 investigations and more than 200 hearings so far, it is obvious that impeachment has been on the table all along. Nonetheless, it is certainly best to not call it impeachment prematurely. That would just alter the rhetoric to vehement and vitrolic accusations against Dems of playing politics. No, it is far better for impeachment to keep flying under the radar, right there just under that crowded table. Besides, the table has never been this cropwded before, so there just isn't any room on the top.

[KoKo]

9. lol's...and true..."the table has never been this crowded before...

so there just isn't any room on the top."

[NavyDavy]

12. That is what I think, also.

[KharmaTrain]

14. There's More At Work Here Than Impeachment

I suspect when this regime is said and done, the list of corruption will not be completely unraveled...it will take years after this regime is gone to go through all the residue to piece together all that went on. Congressman Nadler is seeing the bigger picture here and how it will take a lot of hard work to get to the truth in so many of these scandals which far outweigh the political. There were plenty of un-elected criminals in this regime and they'll need to be called into account.

Also, we need to both restore rights that were lost during the past 6 years, but also to prevent this sort of usurption of the Constitution from happening again. Just like the fall-out of Watergate led to the first, but far from strong enough, laws on executive power...a lot of this "unitary" regime will need to be prevented from happening in the future. Just cause booosh has vanished doesn't mean the damage is gone as well.

Good luck to Congressman Nadler, this onion has many layers and will stink more and more the closer you get to the center.

Cheers...

:hi:

[NJCher]

16. The wheels of justice...

it will take years after this regime is gone to go through all the residue to piece together all that went on.

This is so true and I think we here at DU, who watch every detail of this criminal administration's operations, get very impatient and angry that more is not done.

In fact it is being done but it is behind the scenes.

A very wise friend of mine, an expert on systems, law, and government, once reminded me about "the system." We have a system and it is hundreds of years old. It is a mature system that is designed to deal with criminal acts like this.

He then went on to point out how many millions of people are indoctrinated into the system: the lawyers, the court administrators, the office-holders, not to mention the people, to whom all must eventually be acccountable. And we have, relatively speaking, maybe a few thousand egregious lawbreakers who are in charge now.

And they think they're going to beat the system? Well, they have before with pardons and the like. They may again but at least the system will put them through turmoil. There is nothing like an ongoing prosecution that goes for years. And years. And years.

It is more torturous to them than us. We've already undergone our torture as we have seen them dismantle our freedoms and ignore the law.

Now it is their turn for the sleepless nights and the never-ending anxiety.



Cher

[L. Coyote]

15. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours

[blm]

17. heh - I hate when I get that 'error'

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