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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:22 PM
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Nifong: "I always tried to do the right thing."
When pressed, all these bastards ever do is quote a variety of cliches and platitudes since they have absolutely no originality or rationale for their actions. Our illustrious President has achieved a certain remarkable notoriety (and I'm using this word correctly) for his utterances such as "you're either with us or against us", "I'm the President (with the outstanding corollary, "I'm the decider"), and my personal favorite, "This has drug on too long...". This last phrase is just the perfect summation for this fellow...I might say, a Hail fellow well-met whose 'charm' is as false as that of the used-car salesman coming off-shift. Still want to 'have a beer' with this guy? If he weren't part of the lucky-sperm club, he'd be the waiter at the bar.

As to Nifong: Although I am Jewish, I hope that there is a special Circle of Hell for miscreants like Nifong. When I was very young, my Dad of Blessed Memory told me never ever to piss off a policeman or a prosecutor; that they can make your life impossible to continue. These three kids are lucky that DNA testing exists and that their parents were of sufficient means and stable enough to assist them in their exoneration. This guy has tarnished these kids forever...imagine all the whispers after each leaves a room. A tragedy of enormous proportions, but at least it wasn't worse.


God help them and God help the United States of America.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:26 PM
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1. "I always tried to do the right thing." - bullshit nt
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:12 PM
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2. Well now,
I don't know what the h___ you're talking about.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:16 PM
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:50 PM
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4. Thanks for the informative response!
Now I know what it feels like to be discrimated against. Low post count. Hmmm. I'm a 65-year-old grandmother from Iowa who has been on DU since 2001. My original user name got lost in the mists somewhere, so I've had to start over--twice, in fact. We've all been low post counters at one time or another, even you, clever one. That doesn't necessarily make us either uneducated or trolls. And thanks again for the concise clarification of your OP. I would have actually appreciated a little more info, but it's obvious I won't get it from little ol' sanctimonious you. :-(
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:58 PM
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5. Zing!
You tell 'em!

And welcome to D... oops, sorry

:blush:
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 04:53 AM
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6. Mmmhm....
Then I believe that the proper question would have been..."I'm sorry, but I'm not acquainted with your subject...could you please clarify." Or words to that effect.

What I don't understand, and I'm just not that bright I guess, is what you didn't know. The Nifong story is the story of the day...there have been about 50 threads or more discussing it. My post stated a quote from him and then I went on to give an opinion of people like him.

I'm not sure there was anything to explain. I am quite tired of having to post with annotations. As far as being sanctimonious, well, sure I am. My modesty, however, is my best feature.

I won't even begin to question your bona fides, BTW.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 07:41 AM
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9. Pay no attention to the rudeness
I'm very sorry you've been treated so badly with no provocation.

And you're absolutely right that you've been unfairly discriminated against for something so ridiculous as a low post count and nothing more... contrary to the accusor attempting to justify their shameful behavior (and doing an embarrassingly shoddy job of it).

Welcome back to DU! :hi:

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 07:52 AM
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10. Did you read her post?
She didn't know what the h(ell) I was talking about??? That was an inappropriate response to what I felt was a sane and reasoned post.

And you accuse me of rudeness?

Oh come on...I am getting tired of disruptive posts like the one last week who, when I used the word 'poor' as in the poor girl who was abducted, said that she was not impoverished, just unlucky.

I'm not fooled...I've been around here a long time.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:27 AM
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11. Damn right I am!
Because you WERE rude for no other reason than she has a low post count. PERIOD. She SAID she didn't know what you were talking about, and if you took her post as being snarky for some reason maybe that's because she doesn't find the story the least bit noteworthy especially compared to the issues of the war, immigration, Libby's pending jail stay/pardon, Gonzalas and his lies and the various people under him jumping ship, etc. Frankly, I could give a rat's ass about Nifong, and I doubt I'm alone... he's just a disreputable prosecutor getting a spanking for something prosecutors all over the country do on a daily basis... whoopie. Somehow you think that justifies you're accusing her of being a Bush loving troll when you and I both know that you would NEVER had said such a thing or even thought it at all had she been displaying a post count of 1000+.

You aren't fooling anyone. You used her low post count and NOTHING ELSE to justify your accusation which was grossly discriminatory, unfair and RUDE.

If you're going to get on your high horse about how long you've been around here then you have no excuse to not know that if you suspect someone of being a troll you alert on their post and let the mods deal with it, but of course you wouldn't do that because you've been here long enough to know that the mods would never find her post to be the least bit trollish. You're just irritated that she either honestly doesn't know anything about what's going on with Nifong or doesn't care anymore than millions of other people including myself. Next thing you know you'll be accusing me of being a Bush loving troll... oh, but you wouldn't do that because I don't have that convenient low post count to fall back on.

I'm done with you and your rude holier than thou behavior based on NOTHING MORE than the convenient yet absurd fall back of the low post count.

*CLICK*

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:26 AM
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16. Aren't we sensitive...
Let's just put the shoe on the other foot, shall we. Tell me where my post was not explanatory. Go ahead...think hard. Channel your anger creatively, for a change.

Now look at her response to my post. Go on, read it. Now tell me that that isn't just the epitome of crudeness and lackluster interrogatory.

If I wrote that I don't know what the hell you're talking about, I'd get a response from you...that's quite clear. Your diatribe, though long, was foundering from the second sentence on...I'd give you a C- as a gift on it. If you feel the need to react in a knee-jerk fashion, at least be creative and incisive. You don't like the low-post 'accusation'? In fact, I made no such statement - I said that she should get her post count up. You could infer that I was looking forward to more posts. She had no business to ask me that question in that tone. You don't see her all over me do you? Come to think of it, who asked you?

So since I am forbidden by the rules to eveiscerate anyone personally, I won't.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:32 AM
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12. But you are the only one claiming not to know what he/she is talking about--
and you felt it necessary to let us all know.

It's quite clear to me and from the several other responses on this thread, it's quite clear to others.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 05:22 AM
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7. Nifong made mistakes but had the decency to resign
How many others had men and women executed in prison or wasted away when they were innocent. If these were working class men who had been humiliated in this way, this wouldn't make news beyond six o'clock.

When George Bush refused to spare the life of that mentally ill woman, people cheered him on. Put simply Nifong is small change compared with murderers like Bush and Cheney.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 05:42 AM
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8. Well, you're right in the sense that he's just a small-fry
Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 05:43 AM by PCIntern
putz-deluxe, who almost destroyed the lives of three college kids.

But his behavior is symptomatic of what's going on in this country. And that's the real problem when you have 'folks' like Bush running the show. Being a creep becomes OK.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:35 AM
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13. With all due respect, he did it to prevent being disbarred.
I'm not certain how that works, but I watched the trial yesterday and the commentators mentioned that by resigning as DA, he won't be disbarred.

How? I've no idea. :shrug:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:42 AM
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14. Well he certainly can be disbarred even with his resignation.
So whoever said that resignation cuts off the bar's ability to disbar him was wrong.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:44 AM
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15. It made absolutely no sense to me, but that's what they said.
It seemed to me like 2 completely separate issues.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:29 AM
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17. These issues are remarkably complex...
even when they should be relatively simple.

and thank you for your support.

:hi:
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:33 AM
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18. Those of us who live here and have followed Nifong's handling of this case know 2 things...
Nifong was in an extremely close election and he needed and appealed directly to the African-American block of voters by using this case to motivate them to vote for him.

And Nifong took a calculated gamble that either he could get the boys accused to plead guilty to lesser charges or he could come up with some evidence later which would bolster a case he had no evidence to proceed upon.

Nifong made authoritative decisions in his capacity of public elected officials for clearly personal reasons that had to do with his own political agenda.

The question is who will explain it to the public in those stark terms.

His resignation is no big consideration since his leaving office was a reality before the hearing began before the State Bar.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:45 AM
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19. Ed Zachary!
:headbang:
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 03:32 PM
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20. We have had many prosecutors who have abused their position to gain higher office
There have been many cases in which exculpatory evidence was withheld intentionally by prosecutors to obtain convictions in 'high profile' cases, many capital cases, so that the prosecutors could use the conviction as a stepping stone to higher office.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 03:45 PM
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21. Uh...no.
He always tried to do what was best for his career.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 04:00 PM
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22. How do you do the right thing, when you don't know right from wrong?
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