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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:27 PM
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Yesterday I saw an ad for this crap on the subway...
"You can pray for healing even if you have no experience. Mark Dahle writes:
Over the past two decades I have seen so many people healed it has led me to an inescapable conclusion: People can be healed of anything.
I've seen people healed of cocaine and heroin addiction. I've seen people who were healed of back pain, cancer, and deformities. I've even seen people healed that the doctors had given up on. You and your friends can be healed, too. Sometimes people are healed with a single prayer. "


http://howtoprayforhealing.com/?gclid=CMHf_u3Q64wCFRETgQoddSoJ2A

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:29 PM
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1. If not, see a doctor.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:31 PM
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3. If your deformities could be cured with a prayer...
Then I'd have to admit we live in Harry Potter's world...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:31 PM
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4. I suspect that will be the reaction
from everybody who isn't already a true believer.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:31 PM
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2. It's the right wings solution to single payer healthcare this is called
single prayer healthcare.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:31 PM
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5. LOL, funny, but true. Cheap too!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:32 PM
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6. Ha, I know a Shamanic Priestess who will clear your house by phone for $250
She used to be married to a former coworker of mine.

http://www.heartwisdom.net/shamanichealingsessions.htm
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:34 PM
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8. shit for $250, she'd be clearing the house of the phone, too.
It's not like you'd be able to afford to pay the phone bill. ;-)
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:33 PM
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7. and people who aren't healed? Are we supposed to conclude
that they didn't pray enough, or in the right way, or to the right flavor of god? :puke:

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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:37 PM
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12. We can assume that, or that their illness/deformity/addiction
is Gawd's will. This is one of those things that just irritates the hell out of me.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:39 PM
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17. yeah, it would be nice to know whether your affliction was Gawd's will
before wearing yourself out with the prayer. Might as well watch a movie instead, if there's no use in praying. :popcorn:
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:38 PM
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14. Those are the damned and people with mortal sins, I suppose.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:40 PM
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18. as opposed to *.
His sins are immortal. Of that I have NO doubt.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:35 PM
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9. Why would there be an ad for subway crap?
Is subway crap something special? Better than regular crap?

:D
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:36 PM
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10. crap generately from freshly baked bread??? n/t
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sweettater Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:37 PM
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11. Well, I saw a billboard yesterday
advertising Hooters. Get a load of this.......Only a rooster can get a better piece of chicken. Maybe if your mind isn't in the "gutter" it's not distasteful but whoa!!!!!!!!!!!! I about died laughing. :rofl:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:38 PM
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13. OK, Mark, how about saying a little prayer and healing me of my involuntary abstinence?
...sometime between now and the weekend would be nice.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:38 PM
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15. How come I never see limbs regenerated by these hucksters? -eom
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:06 PM
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22. Whydoesgodhateamputees.com
http://www.whydoesgodhateamputees.com/

This website asks that question. Hmmm...Prayer never seems to grow back an arm or leg. Why is that? Is god too busy fixing a cancer in Des Moines that was about to go into remission anyway?
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:15 PM
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25. This is what the preacher saiz about it:
"Have confidence even if nothing seems to happen.

Don’t expect fireworks all the time.

Many times you may not feel especially inspired when you are praying. That won’t affect your results. There have been times when I have thought, “That didn’t go anywhere.” But the people were healed. You just never know. You’re not trying for fireworks. You’re trying to bring the presence and love of God to people. That can happen even when you don’t sense anything in the moment."

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:39 PM
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16. The cost of prayer
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 04:39 PM by Az
Prayer is offered by many as a solution to problems. This creates a problem by distracting the person from seeking real solutions to the problems they face. Faith healers are the worst of this lot because they can quite literally cost someone their life. If they seek out prayer instead of treatment their life can be placed in extreme jeopardy.

We build lighthouses instead of prayer citadels to keep ships safe at sea because prayer doesn't work as well as lighthouses do.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:41 PM
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19. I know. I wrote to the subway manager about it...
After all, we should not have this crap in MA!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:03 PM
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20. Single Prayer Healthcare.
Right.

:rofl:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:07 PM
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23. Hey that was my joke
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:17 PM
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27. Somebody should make an ad with this. It's good.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:06 PM
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21. Pray for healing, and you have 4 possible outcomes/reactions from the faith healer
The malady actually goes away on its own - Hallelujah! God has heard our prayers and saved you. To show God how much you appreciate Him (and for everyone else, to show your joy in this miracle), send the healer money so he can continue to help others.

The illness is arrested - Hallelujah! God has heard our prayers, but we need to pray more (and send more money to the healer so he can continue to talk to God on your behalf)

The malady gets worse - Don't despair, brothers and sisters. All we need to do is re-double our efforts (as well as increase the size of the donations you send to the healer)

The person dies from the malady - That person didn't really have faith. Oh, he/she said he/she did, but if he/she really had had faith in God and Jaaaaaaaysusssss! he/she wouldn't have died. Please don't be like that person, brothers and sisters. Show your faith in the Lawd and send me money so I can continue to help the true believers get rid of their pain.

TlalocW
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:16 PM
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26. Even in case 4... Prayers for the soul of the departed is the only hope.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 11:39 AM
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28. I disagree
There's no money to be made in praying for the dead, and it's not the faith healer's gig in the first place.

TlalocW
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:11 PM
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24. It's starting to look like praying might be the only way to ever be healed again
because all Dr's. do anymore is push drugs from the pharmaceutical companies down our throats only treating the symptoms.
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