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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:31 AM
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Get out your tinfoil hats, will Bush roll on Cheney first, or vice versa?
Will Bush cut a deal with the Dems to let Cheney roll in exchange for a free pass until January, provided the Dems can pick his V.P., in which case I'm guessing it would be somebody like Arlen Specter or Chuck Lugar?

OR.....

Will Cheney throw Bush under the bus, throwing the Democratic congress some red meat, forcing his impeachment, and Cheney's ascendancy to the Presidency, installing his favorite GOP successor to the thrown, probably somebody like Fred Thompson?

Got another fun theory you want to throw in?

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:32 AM
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1. bush will do nothing he knows there is no oppositon party that will do anything nt
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:37 AM
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6. Your pessimism is duly noted...n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:33 AM
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2. Neither
Cheney needs Stupid to hide behind, so that's out. Stupid is so stupid and ill informed that he doesn't think there is a problem, has never been a problem and will never be a problem. So that's out.


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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:38 AM
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7. What if he's given an ultimatum?
Cheney or you, which is it?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:41 AM
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10. At that point, Rove gives Cheney thumbs down, tosses him to the lions,
and some really bad thing happens to divert our attention while enabling Cheney to usurp more powers for the executive branch he has freshly re-aligned himself with (just ahead of those subpoenas).
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:58 AM
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15. He'll run to Rove, he'll run to Poppy, he'll run to Babs
and he'll run to Gonzo, demanding all of them fix it or just make it go away.

He does not respond well to threats. He has never taken a bit of responsibility for anything in his life. He has no reason to believe in consequences of any kind.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:32 AM
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23. That's why I think that would be the scenario for getting rid of Cheney...
he'd dump him in a heartbeat if it meant his own ass on the line. I'm sure Dick has a contingency plan all lined up just in case.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:34 AM
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3. How can Bush do anything when his Boss is Cheney??
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:36 AM
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4. Neither, they'll just drag it out in the courts through Jan 2009
setting precedent for future presidents.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:37 AM
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5. You think that's smart politically for the Republicans?..
all of this drip, drip, drip, of failures and scandals?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:41 AM
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9. I seriously don't think that the administration gives a good gawddam about the ELECTED
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 09:41 AM by blondeatlast
Republicans.

They've done what they were engineered to do, and ensured that no one will be able to get us out of the mess in the next half-century. Democracy is NOT part of the agenda.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:07 AM
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17. they don't and Cheney did say once, he does not care about the
fate of republican party, it is business as usual and the PNAC agenda will be thrusted forward.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:30 AM
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21. Agreed, but when does the GOP wise up, or do they?...n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:45 AM
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24. if they are smart enough they are on their way over the cliff
and will they save their own asses, that is the question, will they save their own asses, and defect from these criminals.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:29 AM
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20. Right, but at some point the GOP takes over...
they say enough is enough, cut their losses and toss somebody overboard, don't you think?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:51 AM
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27. One would think, but they seem almost deluded. It's almost as if
they are terrified to lose that 26% that W still holds. I think they may be--they kmow that that 26% will cough up th campaign dough. It's why I say our best strategy is every W photo-op and statement of support for W's Iraq policy.

The GOP leaders seem to feel they still need to make the Democrats the enemy when in reality, the neocons have done far more damage to the RRRepublicans than we ever could have.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:43 AM
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11. The way the Cons operate, they likely have all their outrages lined up
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 10:06 AM by Norquist Nemesis
and ready. All they need to do is fill in the blank with the name of the Democrat sitting in the WH and slap a current date on it! Funny thing, "Bush did it" just won't be sufficient.

Don't be surprised if the Cons haven't been keeping notes all along about things they wouldn't dare utter even behind closed doors. They'll be waiting to pounce like wolves on the hunt, ready to attack and kill, using the same techniques that have fed them for years.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:38 AM
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8. Setting the precedent for future Republick presidents.
Democratic presidents will have to follow different rules.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:44 AM
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12. Agree 100%!! See #11
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:04 AM
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16. ...
:thumbsup:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:48 AM
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13. About 4 years ago I had my tinfoil hat surgically fused to my scalp. nt
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:49 AM
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14. Just for shits and grins...
"Something" happens to Dim Son, Cheney ascends to the throne, a "state of emergency" is declared, and the November '08 elections are suspended indefinitely.

Or not. LOL It's like an assault every day with these people--they're turning me into a crazy person!!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:08 AM
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18. OR Cheney has complications during his upcoming surgery for battery
replacement. Condi comes out, in tears, and says "Who knew? No one could have predicted..." And Bush names Fred Thompson VP.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:46 AM
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25. Yeah, I thought of that one, too.
"Complications."
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:10 AM
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19. that is their plan to drive us crazy, and those pharmaceutical companies
are making billions of money off us.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:50 AM
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26. Well, I haven't hit the Rx's just yet...
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 11:00 AM by TWriterD
but Ben & Jerry's is making a killing off of me. Sicko this weekend - yeah!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:31 AM
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22. Could explain the chimps extreme paranoia...
he's more scared of Cheney than anybody, that's clear.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:59 AM
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28. Agreed.
And what I wouldn't give for a complete public meltdown. He was going through a crying jag for a while there, but that seems to have stopped. Medications adjusted?! Cheney "adjusted" him?
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