Rove and Powell engage in CIA leak case (“I make no apologies” for going to Iraq,” Rove said.)

[Kadie]

Rove and Powell engage in CIA leak case

Powell: Probe dragged on too long


July 8, 2007


Rick Carroll
Aspen Times Staff Writer

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell suggested Sunday at an Aspen Ideas Festival question-and-answer session with Karl Rove that the CIA leak investigation carried on too long, and the FBI knew who leaked the identity of former CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson from the very beginning.

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“The FBI knew on Day 1 of Mr. Armitage’s involvement, yet for two months after that the FBI kept investigating,” Powell said. “They kept investigating to see who else might be involved and when they finished their investigation — they couldn’t finish it. Therefore, a special counsel was brought in, Mr. Patrick Fitzgerald, who spent another two years.

“The day he started he knew what Mr. Armitage’s involvement was and he still went for another two years … the reason he did that was that others were involved … and if everybody who had any contact with a reporter during that period had done what Armitage had done, I think this was have ended early on and not dragged out the way it has been.” Rove, originally believed by many to be the key leaker, responded that White House officials did cooperate from the beginning. When interviewer Walter Isaacson, CEO and president of The Aspen Institute, asked whether Vice President Dick Cheney did, Rove did not directly answer the host’s question.

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Rove, meanwhile, defended the White House’s decision making under President Bush, from its decision to invade Iraq to questions regarding whether it is being aggressive enough in its pursuit of al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden.
“I make no apologies” for going to Iraq,” Rove said. “It was the right thing to do and the world is better with him gone. We all thought he had weapons of mass destruction, the whole world thought he did.”

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http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20070708/NEWS/70708004/-1/rss02

[ck4829]

1. What on Earth does Karl Rove have to do with Iraq?

[Mend]

21. Karl has done several tours of duty as a soldier there and has no regrets

serving his country, just like he served in Vietnam. He has many medals to prove it and John Kerry has none and shot himself. I have this right, don't I?

[lovuian]

2. They failed the New World Order is failing

and they are scrambling to explain to their masters that they did not fail

they failed and continue to fail

[Botany]

3. Well go to Iraq Karl .... do it now

“I make no apologies” for going to Iraq,” Rove said.

[MadMaddie]

4. And there my friends lies the "Crimes against Humanity"

If all they had were thoughts and not facts that Sadam had WMD's then there was no true justification to go to war..

Rove is at the center of every crime committed by this Administration.

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“I make no apologies” for going to Iraq,” Rove said. “It was the right thing to do and the world is better with him gone. We all thought he had weapons of mass destruction, the whole world thought he did.”
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[Swamp Rat]

5. Ok, and I won't make any apologies for dancing, peeing, and pooing on your grave.

:)

[NanceGreggs]

6. Well said, Karl!

“I make no apologies for going to Iraq,” Rove said.

I never thought you'd actually join-up and ship out to Baghdad yourself - shows you how wrong I can be.

When you get there, please drop us a line and let us know how you're doing.

[rubberducky]

7. NOBODY is buying rove`s argument any more, exept

bushco. And they knew the truth from the very beginning. They have made it very clear that they just flat out DO NOT CARE how many die for thier lies. It doesn`t matter a tinker`s damn to them. Just sign the damn iraq oil law. That`s what it was about all along. And a lot of us knew it from day one.

[Poiuyt]

8. I didn't realize that Rove was involved in making foreign policies in 2003

And I get so sick of Bush people saying that the world is better with Saddam gone and that everyone thought he had WMD. First, the world is definitely NOT better with Saddam gone. Iraq isn't even better.

And not everybody thought he had WMD. Only the people and countries who were fed Chalabi and Rumsfeld's bogus intelligence. The UN inspectors didn't, Germany didn't, France didn't, Russia didn't.

But of course, Rove's talking points never get challenged.

[EST]

16. The only ones in the world, of those who knew anything at all,

who "thought there were wmds were either those who wanted to be in on the raping of Iraq with the US leaders or those who were afraid to speak up-fearing they might be next on the list.

[chknltl]

23. Nor did the Weapons Inspectors or a few of our Congressmen!

Senator Jim McDermott went to Iraq prior to bush's war and reported back to America: "This is NOT about WMD, This is about Regime Change and Oil" I made my kids watch that very speech by Jim McDermott on C-Span! For his efforts he was demonized and earned the nickname Baghdad Jim.

No, NOT everyone in America thought Saddam had WMD!

Another point: for Saddam to actually use a WMD or even been tenuously linked to the use of one after 9-11, would have signed his own death warrant. He knew that if someone, ANYONE, had dropped a nuke ANYWHERE on this planet he would get blamed and his own cities would have faced immediate world wide retaliation. Saddam was a Dictator, not a martyr. We could have safely handed him a nuke and the ONLY thing he could have done with it is used it DEFENSIVELY against an invading force!

That holds true with Iran as well. Think about it, if we gave them a NUKE tomorrow, do you think they would be stupid, no, INSANE enough to set it off ANYWHERE? What would stop the combined wrath of the nations and some of the mightiest armies this planet has EVER seen from taking swift vengeance? THEY KNOW THIS. All this anguish over Iran's nuclear program is misplaced! They may want nuke weapons but they are NOT about to use them offensively. Even America, a country with the largest Nuke arsenal needs to use subterfuge here prior to using one. The war-hawk Republican candidates call it a "Pre-Emptive" strike. In essence we won't even dare come out and just use this WMD indiscriminately.

Iran fully realizes it can not get away with a "Pre-Emptive" strike against oh say Israel or anyone else. All this crap we keep reading in the news about how the world MUST stop Iran from getting their own Nukes because they lack responsibility is out and out fear mongering! Read it for what it is! This is the exact same fear mongering which put our troops over in Iraq this time around...fool us once shame on you, fool us twice... I am not going there, the costs are too staggering to imagine!

[TwilightGardener]

9. "I make no apologies for going to Iraq"--

I don't remember casting a ballot for Karl Rove. Does anyone else?

[pearl]

10. Hey Karl

Just Shut the Fuck up, you Freak. :puke:

[Kadie]

26. exactly.

These guys are unreal.

[blogslut]

11. Too long, Mr. Powell?

I guess you would know all about quick sham investigations. Kind of like when you were tasked to investigate My Lai. What was it you said? Oh yeah:

"In direct refutation of this portrayal is the fact that relations between American soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent."

Yes, you're a real expert on all sorts of things, sir.

[Ecumenist]

12. “I make no apologies” for going to Iraq,” Rove said.

WTF??!! Your sorry marshmallow puft, pillsbury doughboy ass has NEVER even attended a boy scout meeting! I feel that since he has openly said that HE MAKES NO APOLOGIES, he needs to be measured, fitted, outfitted and shipped over into that noble war theater where he can openly and clearly demonstrate his happiness with the murder, destruction, gore and chaos he had a hand in.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

14. What you said.

And take with him all of his "sorry marshmallow puft, pillsbury doughboy ass" supporters he has in this country. And one bony one in the form of Tapeworm Coulter.

[jaysunb]

13. Lying ...with a straight face

“I make no apologies” for going to Iraq,” Rove said. “It was the right thing to do and the world is better with him gone. We all thought he had weapons of mass destruction, the whole world thought he did.”

:evilfrown:

[stellanoir]

15. When the flop was it the decision of an unelected lackey

to make decisons to send us into an illegal war???

This is BS totally.

[Jack Rabbit]

17. Rove has no shame, therefore makes no apologies

I will make none if I have the pleasure in assisting in his apprehension and sending him to The Hague to stand trial for the war crimes for which he has no apologies.

[The_Casual_Observer]

18. "the whole world thought he did.”

According to who? You sack of shit.

[Hissyspit]

25. He's repeating the big lie. Repeat it long enough...

He is a Nazi.

[Spinzonner]

19. There was a conspiracy to violate the law by outing a CIA agent

That Armitage happened to be the first and one of the direct outers does not make the rest innocent of the crime.

[Lasher]

20. Republican Witch Hunts Against Clinton Lasted 12 Years

And they cost at least $91 million.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2223218

I'm sure if Powell were reminded of that he won't mind at all when Congressional Democrats return from recess to revive the leak investigation. It should last about another 10 years.

[bleever]

22. So many falsehoods, repeated again and again.

I'm sorry to hear that Powell, an honorable soldier, doesn't understand the underpinnings of justice that are under attack here.

Rove: No. The whole world didn't think Saddam had WMDs. You just tried to make sure the experts who denied that were smeared or marginalized. But that didn't change the truth, any more than today's repeat of the lie does.

You lose.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

24. PSSST, PSSST GEORGE, IF YOU START A WAR WALL STREET WILL LOVE YOU , KARL

[Stephanie]

27. "It is fall now … Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning.

They turn in clusters, ..."

[Kadie]

28. LOL

first thing I thought when I read the article last night.

:hi: