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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:02 AM
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Turkey Holds Rally Denouncing Rebels, U.S.
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_21290907.shtml

By Staff
Jul 9, 2007

Thousands of Turks held a rally in Ankara this weekend denouncing separatist Kurdish guerrillas for attacks, and the United States for its response to them.

Attacks have been escalating in recent weeks, and Turkey has been pressuring the United States and Iraq to crack down on rebel bases in northern Iraq, Turkey's Alalam Satellite TV reported.


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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:13 AM
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1. Like we're in any position to crack down on rebel bases in N Iraq...
Another front in Iraq is the last thing we need.:banghead:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:25 AM
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2. the turks have warned
condi for years, both as national secrutiny chair and as sexstate. And she has ignored them completely.

The Kurds have been running across the border, attacking villages, outposts, government buildings, infrastructure, then running back and hiding. Rapes, murders, - these are routine, except we here in the States don't hear about it because our MSM sucks harder than Monica. Several State experts have been trying to get someone's attention, but Cheney truly controls what goes into the president's brain, and to him, Turkey is simply an irritant. Forget about being a stable, western leaning country that deals fairly and equitably on religious differences, forget that they are a staunch ally (or were, before the Era of Bush) Forget that the reason they refused a land attack from the north of Iraq was precisely due to the Kurdish problem. Forget all that, because we are on the way to Iran, and can't be bothered by this shit.

STUPID STUPID STUPID. That has been our policy under the neocons.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:33 AM
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3. Are you really claiming it's the Kurds fault?
The Kurds without a homeland, oppressed and persecuted for years by the Turks (which stopped only in 2003 as Turkey made it's bid to get into the EU) and others.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:48 AM
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4. The fact that hit and run attacks start in Iraq and are aimed at Turkic sites?
yes, I do claim it is their fault. Turkey is made up of several peoples, all of whom live together without rancor - except for the Kurds to the south. Kurds throughout other parts of Turkey are members of parliament, mayors of towns, police, military, doctors, etc. They are not the problem, but the war-mongerers are.


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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:33 PM
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5. Yeah, the Kurds need to STFU because anyone who disagrees
with A Government in Power is fuckin' terrarist!

But, what an unnatural reaction for a people facing repeated intolerance and oppression, fortunately America never did that in the States to anybody...
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:00 PM
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6. Have you been to Turkey? I have
Not just istambul, not just up and down the Bosphorus. The archeology and history is incredible, with thousands of years of artifacts in places. The people (until our latest little Iraqi adventure) were uniformly friendly and western looking. The one man they admire is attaturk, who kept the nation together despite soviet, muslim, greek and other stresses and problems. When he died, they stopped the clock in every major building and museum to the time of his expiration. He built the nation into a modern country, with areligious political systems in force.

Most Turkic Kurds joined in this nation building, some did not. Those who did not began running guns, drugs and started attacking schools, trains, electric stations, homes and government buildings. Things got worse AFTER we invaded Iraq, just like the Turks warned us and just like they predicted. The Kurds in Northern Iraq began overt supplying of arms, explosives and warriors to attack and provoke Istambul and many regional centers.

Think of it like Mexico supplying arms and fighters to Mexican Americans up north so they would attack Texas and Arizona, with the intent that those two states would revolt and become a separate country from the US.

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