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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:25 PM
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Sworn Testimony Has Revealed That VP Al Gore Masterminded The Unmasking Of A Covert CIA Agent...
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 03:26 PM by kpete
What If Vice Pres. Gore Had Outed a Covert CIA Specialist in Terror Weapons?
Posted by Jon Ponder | Feb. 5, 2007, 8:08 am

Imagine the reaction from the media and the Republican Party if this story had been in the news ten years ago:

Sworn testimony has revealed that Vice Pres. Al Gore masterminded
the unmasking of a covert CIA agent who specialized in the terrorist blackmarket for weapons of mass destruction — and that Gore’s motive was to exact political retribution against the agent’s husband, an outspoken critic of Clinton-Gore policies.


It is hardly an exaggeration to suggest that Vice Pres. Gore would have been hounded from office within weeks of such headlines — as Vice Pres. Mondale or any other Democratic vice president would have been.

And yet we now know from testimony by an FBI agent and others at Scooter Libby’s perjury trial in the CIA Leak scandal that it was not Karl Rove who masterminded the campaign to reveal agent Valerie Plame’s identity, as most of us assumed — it was Libby’s boss, Dick Cheney, the vice president of the United States.

It also clear from the evidence that Cheney was fully aware tht Plame worked undercover for the CIA’s Counter-Proliferation Division, where she was involved hands-on in tracking of illegal sales and shipments of WMD around the world. It also clear that Cheney was more than willing to risk whatever intelligence assets Plame had developed in order to retaliate against her husband, former Amb. Joe Wilson, who had dared to call the Cheney-Bush administration out on its lies about Iraq’s purported nuclear capabilities.

more at:
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/02/05/what-if-gore-had-outed-secret-agent/
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:40 PM
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1. The title of the OP is misleading, isn't it?
I mean, is the article fingering Gore or not?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:48 PM
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2. No, it's perfect...
because it makes you think Gore did it, and the question is why we feel Gore doing it is more important than Cheney. Honestly, when I opened this I had a little terror in my heart, why don't Republicans or even Democrats feel that way usually.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:29 PM
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3. Yes -- so far, there seems to be a big yawn from the public about Cheney's treachery. n/t
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:04 PM
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7. Not much press coverage. . .maybe Scooter's tapes will heat it up. EON
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:32 PM
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4. Was that before he invented the internet?
Because if he had done that after the internet was invented, people might have gotten on-line and criticised him for it.

LoL
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:59 PM
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6. al gore never claimed he invented the internet
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet.

Status: False.

Origins: Despite the derisive references that continue even today, Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The "Al Gore said he 'invented' the Internet" put-downs were misleading, out-of-context distortions of something he said during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):
During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and perhaps self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible, in an economic and legislative sense, for fostering the development the I also invented the microphone technology that we now know as the Internet. To claim that Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the Internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. Gore never used the word "invent," and the words "create" and "invent" have distinctly different meanings — the former is used in the sense of "to bring about" or "to bring into existence" while the latter is generally used to signify the first instance of someone's thinking up or implementing an idea. (To those who say the words "create" and "invent" mean exactly the same thing, we have to ask why, then, the media overwhelmingly and consistently cited Gore as having claimed he "invented" the Internet, even though he never used that word, and transcripts of what he actually said were readily available.)

If President Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while President, "created" the Interstate Highway System, we would not have seen dozens and dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he "invented" the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Ike meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with his Internet statement.

Whether Gore's statement that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet" is justified is a subject of debate. Any statement about the "creation" or "beginning" of the Internet is difficult to evaluate, because the Internet is not a homogenous entity (it's a collection of computers, networks, protocols, standards, and application programs), nor did it all spring into being at once (the components that comprise the Internet were developed in various places at different times and are continuously being modified, improved, and expanded). Despite a spirited defense of Gore's claim by Vint Cerf (often referred to as the "father of the Internet") in which he stated "that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it," many of the components of today's Internet came into being well before Gore's first term in Congress began in 1977.

It is true, though, that Gore was popularizing the term "information superhighway" in the early 1990s (although he did not, as is often claimed by others, coin the phrase himself) when few people outside academia or the computer/defense industries had heard of the Internet, and he sponsored the 1988 National High-Performance Computer Act (which established a national computing plan and helped link universities and libraries via a shared network) and cosponsored the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1992 (which opened the Internet to commercial traffic).

In May 2005, the organizers of the Webby Awards for online achievements honored Al Gore with a lifetime achievement award for three decades of contributions to the Internet. "He is indeed due some thanks and consideration for his early contributions," said Vint Cerf.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:54 PM
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11. That's Internets
:shrug: and glad he did...
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:39 PM
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5. Well, everyone has really known since 2003 that Cheney and Bush outed a covert CIA operative. And .
see: the outed CIA operative was indeed hounded out of office.

Besides Plame wasn't working on anything important -- just nukes in Iran. ;-)
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:05 PM
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8. Your title is inappropriate. n/t
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:50 PM
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9. Democratic politicians and spokespeople have been silent about Cheney
Republican pundits like Tucker Carlson are still downplaying the trial and promoting the Repub talking points that Fitz is just an overzealous prosecutor making much ado about nothing, while there is virtually no critical comments by Dems alhough we know if a Democratic VP did what Cheney did, he would be hounded out of office in disgrace and a media furor. I guess Dems are staying out of it to enhance Fitz independent credibility and prevent the trial from being labeled a partisan witchhunt.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:41 PM
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10. Point well made. nt
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:59 PM
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12. Wow...good way to put it
I clicked on the link expecting a Newsmax article. I do hope no one reads just the headline and gets misled though...
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:31 PM
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13. No, it was Clinton.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:35 PM
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14. I can only imagine the outrage.
I remember the fake outrage over the buddhist temple crapola. Sigh!
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:38 PM
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15. If it had happend during Clinton years, they'd be calling for capital punishment.
George Bush Senior even said one time, at a CIA event:

GEORGE H.W. BUSH: “I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.”
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:45 PM
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16. Speaking of that quote by Bush 41....
I wish a brave reporter would ask him about that as it pertains to the recent news of the Plame outing.
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