CNN Headline: Sen. Vitter: New Orleans prostitute stories untrue

[spanone]

Kinda makes the poor fella sound like he's innocent doesn't it???

www.cnn.com

[Lerkfish]

1. wow, just like how they treated clinton and the lewinsky thing.

:sarcasm:

[Snarkoleptic]

9. I did not have sexual relations while wearing a diaper...

the diaper came off before the sex-type-thing.

[SpiralHawk]

12. ABC did a propaganda dump on this story this morning

Included all of Vitters whining excuses and justifications. Then quickly moved on to review The Clinton-Lewinsky story, with lots of emphasis, and zero context.

Blatant republicon spin. Shameless. ABC is totally in the crapper. No integrity, no honor.

Corporate media is sold out all the way.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

43. Reminds me of the Dan Rather thing

The Killian memos were challenged by right-wingers who raised doubts about their authenticity by referring to fonts and whether typewriters of the era could create them. Enough doubt was raised in the media to cause people to assume that Bush didn't go AWOL from the Guard, didn't get preferential treatment, and didn't get grounded from flying. The media planted the idea in people's minds that Bush served honorably, never was grounded from flying, and showed up in Alabama.

But the Killian memos were just a small part of it and there's a great deal more evidence, including the recollection of Killian's own secretary.

Here, by stating that Vitter didn't go to the New Orleans brothel, they're trying to plant the notion in people's minds that he's completely innocent.

[endarkenment]

2. he only did #1. Never ever #2. nt.

[ShortnFiery]

3. Well he didn't cheat with a work-place subordinate ... that much Vitter has going for him.

:shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. prostitutes are subordinate to senators, dont you think?

given that for one of them, their proffession is illegal and the other is part of the reason why their profession is illegal.

huge power differences here, much worse than clinton and lewinsky

[ShortnFiery]

17. No they're not in their work hierarchy. We have ZERO moral high ground with "Bill"

:thumbsdown:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

18. their work hierarchy is what makes them powerless

there are laws made against prostitution by lawmakers, making them perpetually vulnerable.

lewinsky had much more power in society and in life and at her workplace than a sex worker ever does.

to compare the oppression faced by a rich white house intern compared to those faced by sex workers is beyond ridiculous.

[ShortnFiery]

23. Apples and Oranges. Power over someone in your chain of command - sexual misconduct

is profoundly damaging to "the work atmosphere" in addition to the emotional trauma inflicted upon the spouse of the adulterer. This is above and beyond all the arguments "pro or con" about prostitution.

When you cheat with someone within your chain of command in the military, it's a potentially Courts Martial Offense. IMO, Bill Clinton should have resigned for the good of the Country because he breeched the trust of the people within his command by seducing an intern. Because Bill Clinton, IMO, shamelessly "hung in there", it PERFECTLY explains why an equally sleazy scumbag like Senator Vitter will "hang on too."

That is, IMO the *shameless bar* has been forever raised into absurdity. :shrug:

There is seemingly NO SENSE OF SHAME when it comes to the psyches of far too many Politicians. :(

Again, Democrats hold NO moral high ground when it comes to "adultery and legislators." :shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

24. well i disagree with you. i think a lot of people have sex with their coworkers

or subordinates or bosses. its not the end of the world. there are power discrepancies but nothing compared to those between a senator and a prostitute.

i think sex between adults is the least of the offensive things politicians do.

[ShortnFiery]

25. Wrong. When you commit adultery and it's within the same office environment.

You've victimized more than your spouse. You have disrupted the good order of the working environment. If you're in the Military, you will either be relieved of command and/or courts martialed.

We can't have it both ways. What Bill Clinton did was immoral and he should have resigned because of it. I also don't give a damn about how it was in the past and how many "good wives" didn't mind covering up their husband's affairs. THIS IS NOW - it's *all immoral.*

Therefore, adultery is truly both wrong and immoral - it DAMAGES the work environment when a married superior seduces a subordinate. That's why the military has those regulations.

I'm disgusted with both types of behaviors - adultery is immoral. If you want to grab other women's asses in your office, have the decency to get a divorce. Even ole' Ghouilani was *at least* that respectful of his former spouses. OMG, look how damn far our political *leaders* have de-volved morally?

We deserve better leaders with regard to BOTH personal and professional behavior. It all inter-relates and can NOT be covered up like in the past. :shrug:

[BlooInBloo]

26. Asking boys and girls to be together and not have sex is just silly...

... Sure, there need to be a variety of safeguards, but nothing is gonna change basic human horny nature.

[ShortnFiery]

27. No, it's not silly. Adults can be professional. When they cross the line, punishment should follow

No, I'm very much into integration throughtout society, to include genders, but we need to recapture our moral compass.

If you wish to be a "free spirit" by all means, just stay single. :shrug:

However, when you're a public figure and married - then also KNOW that if you do not remain faithful, you're deceit will be revealed.

That's not a tough choice. If you want to be sexually FREE, just don't get married. :shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

29. you dont know what arrangement someone has with their spouse

and its not yours to determine who they can and cannot sleep with.

[ShortnFiery]

32. That doesn't matter, UNLESS that political figure makes a public announcement of an

open marriage, everyone else in SOCIETY will believe that one should be both physically and emotionally faithful.

If Bill Clinton was OPEN, why did he not just IMMEDIATELY admit his affair? Don't you see that if someone else had approached him, he may have gave-in to blackmail? :scared:

I don't personally give a damn who my politicians are having sex with. However, if they are married and have NOT announced clearly "an open marriage" they should be faithful. If not, then they are ideal candidates for BLACKMAIL.

Like TRUE crimes: It's not the SEX (infidelity) but the attempts to cover-up (blackmail and pay-offs) that is the true sin. :shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

28. no its not wrong, just because you say so.

i don't care really who my political leader is sleeping with. i care about lies and hypocrisy though.

[ShortnFiery]

30. I care when a political figure is cheating because THEN that person is Black-mailable.

In fact, that may be why many in our House of Representatives are "silent" when it comes to calling for Bush/Cheney's Impeachment Proceedings.

Not unlike people who hold high security clearances, public figures MUST lead an OPEN LIFE. Yes, it sucks, but when you are trusted with *national secrets* you can NOT be grabbing asses behind your husband or wife's back.

This has NOTHING to do with the "sex act" itself but the need to trust the integrity of the Politician or Intelligence Officer. Everything you do should be out in the open so that you can NOT be approached by *anyone* who could use THAT EVIDENCE to black mail you.

Yes, it's important that Political Figures do NOT cheat on their spouses because that compromises their integrity and they can be blackmailed by "our enemies."

Well, duh. :shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

31. they are only blackmailable because we live in a ridiculously puritanical society

where people other people's sex life is their business.

the french pm had a mistress, everyone knew, i am sure he wasnt blackmailed.

[ShortnFiery]

34. But the sad fact is that we do live in that society: They are blackmailable. nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

36. again only because we let it.

[ShortnFiery]

37. Yes, and there's no sign of change in society - our politicians must be completely open.

Since all the mea culpas, to include Bill Clinton's demonstrations of great sorrow for his infidelity, there's absolutely no sign that "open marriages" will be accepted by Americans as a main stream lifestyle.

That's why it is very important for our politicians to lead an honest and open personal as well as professional life.

I fear that many of our democratic house members are being blackmailed. We need to vote for their next Democratic Primary Challenger and hope that they choose to live a 100% open and honest lifestyle. :shrug:

The point is: if you wish to have sexual freedom of different partners and want to be a political figure, stay single or get single. ;)

[Jed Dilligan]

44. I work closely with my girlfriend (as of a month ago)

They knew who I was when they hired me. It works out great for everyone. We end up giving them a lot of free hours when discussions over dinner drift to work. Sometimes it feels a little odd when I'm in a business meeting with someone I've shtupped, but it doesn't get in the way of our duties.

[ShortnFiery]

46. Get back to us in about ... say, a year from now?

I hope it works out but like those silly on-line dating ads, I can't wait for SNL or Mad TV to do an offshoot on, how after time passes, the two people can't stand the sight of each other. :rofl:

Again, I hope you and your girlfriend are the exception. But Lord help those who have messy break ups, yet still have to be civil to each other at work. :scared: It's just freaky to contemplate the hor-ror. :-) :hi:

[Jed Dilligan]

47. I don't think it's very likely.

We're basically married, we just don't want to participate in a discriminatory institution. Besides, I don't work with her every day; I'm a consultant and do most of my work at home. I'll just move on if we do break up. Chances are I'll be on to different gig in less than a year.

What's with all the stupid smileys?

[SoCalDem]

38. Yup.. Lewinsky was an intern.. Interns, by the nature of the term are VOLUNTEERS

(usually non-paid , or minimally paid). Most people who can afford to intern, come from an elite class who can afford to do unpaid work..

In politics especially, internship are all about networking to gain entrance into a high paid position in the future.

Lewinsky was not the ONLY intern to flirt with her boss. She just had a "boss" who was more than willing to go along with the plan.

Lewinsky was not a $7 an hour single-mom at Walmart, who was getting hit on by her boss.

Clinton was president, but SHE held the power in that relationship. she had the power to make his life very complicated. HE was the one with everything to lose and very little to gain..

[ShortnFiery]

45. No, Lewinsky was the victim in this whole endeavor. So many people should have

apologized and made sincere atonements to her, from Bill Clinton to Linda Tripp and Ken Star.

I've never been "touched" by charming personalities such as Bill Clinton's and I wish that he would have done the MORAL and RIGHT thing when he was caught and resigned.

Bill Clinton may be a rock star to some but to me he's a highly intelligent and VERY SELFISH man. I have little to no respect for his lack of integrity and, as such, wouldn't trust him (or his wife) running my bowling alley ... much less the Nation at any time in the future. :(

We need *new blood* in The Executive Branch lest it truly will morph into The UNITARY Executive Branch due to the *same rotation* of usual suspects from Poppy's and Big Dawg's Administrations. :thumbsdown:

Bill Clinton is anything but "a victim" here.

[SoCalDem]

48. I'm not saying he was the victim.. He asked for the trouble he got

but so did she.. The way she was treated after the fact was shameful.. I agree with you on that.

Politics is an ugly "game".:(

[yardwork]

41. Yeah. Instead, Vitter paid for sex.

That's much better. /sarcasm.

[whistle]

4. Yea.....so there never were prostitutes, his number being on the list was a total

...fabrication and his wife and his God have forgiven any discretions which have occurred including lustful thoughts and window peeking.

Why was his number on the DC Madam's list again?

[spanone]

5. you know, it's all polititcs. those damned democrats set this poor christian boy up.

[blogslut]

14. wee correction

Vitter isn't claiming that he wasn't a client of Debora Palfrey. He's saying that he wasn't a client of the Louisiana madame.

He bases this on the fact that his name never appeared in the LA madame's records.

The LA madame says he was her client and Vitter says he wasn't her client.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

19. Yes, he's splitting hairs

It's a matter of what he thinks he might control vs. what he knows he cannot. All he's hoping to do is confuse the masses at best.

[KharmaTrain]

6. Our Beloved Corporate Media

The same corporate media that cheerlead the Iraq invasion with all those nifty live reports from inside tanks blasting away Iraqi citizens...what a marvel of technology. Isn't war fun???

The same corporate media that cheerlead for Scooter...how dare some out of control prosecutor go after one of the "elite"...we needed to see more Victoria Toesucking and William The Bloody to tell us how poor Scooter had been a victim.

Now there's Senator Depends...the poor bastard's number somehow showed up on some hussy hooker's phone logs. How dare HER for dragging his good name into this...his family...that loving wife of his. Even if he did it, it was in a moment of weakness and he's been all forgiven and we need to "move along"...so he can continue to vote for more bloodlust in Iraq and shady contracting for the Gulf region. Stay tuned as CNN spend the next 3 hours bantering around if Bill's been "faithful" and a look back at Democratic sexual scandals of the last 70 years.

And you think they'll give Democrats or the people a fair shake when it comes down to covering an impeachment? Puleeese!

If there's a place begging for a large sit-in, it's CNN corporate in Atlanta. I think it'd sure open some eyes if the same execs that write Becks paychecks and have profited from all sorts of Repugnican kickbacks...look out their window and see several thousand unhappy viewers.

[LiberalFighter]

7. There he goes again. Vitter lying as usual.

[underpants]

8. His former Madam's pubicity shots

Jeanette Maier, former madam of a high priced New Orleans brothel poses for a photograph in Gretna, La., Tuesday, July 10, 2007. On Tuesday, Maier, a former madam, said Sen. David Vitter had been a customer of her New Orleans brothel. Maier pleaded guilty to running the brothel in 2002. Vitter's office did not respond to requests for comment on her claim. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

[AngryAmish]

10. I guess that settles it then

next

[slampoet]

11. If the NOLA madame isn't true, then why is it that we heard rumors about the NOLA madame before the

DC phone records were released?

I know two people who's families were in the same social circles as the last legal New Orleans Madames, and both of them heard about Vitter whoring around as a rumor at least 4 years ago.

[npincus]

13. there are (alledgedly) PHOTOGRAPHS of Vitter w/NOLA hooker

if she had the wisdom to save these, and is provoked by Vitter's MSM denials, let's HOPE she slips a few to Flynt.

Better yet, what if Larry Flynt HAS them already?

Get your RED-HOT latest Vitter Scandal news here: http://righthandthief.blogspot.com/

[Major Hogwash]

15. He'll be on Larry King by the end of the week -

Tonight, we talk about diapers, drawers, and dirty laundry.
Our guests will be David Vitter, Republican Senator from Louisiana, and Mr. Clean will be here to talk about his laundry soap. We also have Lil' Andy, the new kid representing Pampers, who will join us shortly, and Lindsay Lohan, fresh out of her stay in a rehab!

Tonight's topic, as you all know, is rather controversial, shitting your pants on purpose.
Okay, Lindsay, I'll start with you, have you ever shit your pants on purpose?

No, Mr. King, I can't say I have. Not on purpose, anyway.
Fair enough, how about you Mr. Clean, have you ever shit your pants on purpose?

No, Mr. King, I haven't, but my new soap is stronger than dirt. It can even remove shit stains!
That's great, Mr. Clean.

How about you, Lil' Andy? Well, that was a dumb question, you're only 2 years old, of course you shit your pants on purpose. You're a cute little fella, ya know that?

I'll move on then, welcome Senator Vitter.
Senator Vitter? Senator, are you there?
Has anyone seen Senator Vitter?
Well, that's interesting, if he has nothing to hide, then why did he hide for 4 days last week?

Lindsay, have you worn diapers since you were a little kid?
No, Mr. King, I haven't. Not on purpose, anyway.
Great, how about you Mr. Clean?

No, sir, but my new soap will clean up the dirtiest of diapers in a jiffy, Larry.
Well, that's good to hear.
Lil' Andy, those are diapers you're wearing, aren't they? You're a cute little fella, heh heh heh.
We'll be back in just a minute with more about diapers, doo, and doo-doo. Who writes these intros?

[BurtWorm]

20. "I am NOT a gentleman when I wear a diaper!"

[spanone]

21. mr. vitter, this had NOTHING to do with NOLA prostitutes, It's DC prostitutes.

but CNN was happy to spin it this way for you. how kind

[KansDem]

22. OK, then tell us the *true* New Orleans prostitute stories...

You've admitted to them already. Or are you trying for a mulligan and hoping to do last week all over again.

[jackstraw45]

33. CNN: Corporate News Network....nt

nt

[Ganja Ninja]

35. CNN for the defense. n/t

[DeepModem Mom]

39. It wasn't just CNN. Vitter very cleverly offered that new news, and it was the headline...

in about every report I saw. And, yep, most folks who saw the headline, I'll bet, thought he was denying he ever visited any prostitute.

[librechik]

40. so.. has anybody checked on that claim?

or are they just going to meekly accept the Official Story.

Inquiring Minds want to know!

[KittyWampus]

42. Flynt is checking on it. He said on Larry King it is true.