Hispanics are WANTED/proselytized by Mormons-Muslims-Rethugs -- do national Dems WANT them?

[UTUSN]

CLINTON seemed to lack a connection to Hispanics, despite their support of him, certainly by comparison to his connection to African Americans. During the FAKE impeachment, he appeared in front of the Hispanic Caucus, which proceeded to attempt to show their solid support with LOUD cheering. CLINTON shushed them, choosing to try for some dignity instead of basking. He should have gone for the basking. Shrub trots out mariachis at least once a year and BASKS.


GORE, in his post-SCOTUS-coup appearance on Saturday Night Live, caused a skit on the theme of “noble candidate forced to jump through demeaning hoops,” which was him having to appear on a Univision-type afternoon chat-variety show: The Hispanic characters were a zoo of caricatures--the balloon sleeves, the turbaned woman in the slit skirt, the mustachioed bongo drummer. And, when gravitas-ladened GORE attempted to deliver a high minded message IN THAT VENUE (a misreading of audience), the Hispanic characters would be BORED, then attempted to regain their pulsing rhythm by shoving a Chihuahua at him to hold, while he was oh-so put upon.


Meanwhile, those three recruiting agents are HUNGRY to enlist them. The Mormons use ultimate flattery--HEY!1, who wouldn’t want to hear that one is the Lost Tribe? The Muslims aim for the cast-outs, offering precious human dignity. And the Rethugs offer just crass material rewards.

The Democratic party has traditionally offered social justice, civil rights, and social services. It is devastating to see some Hispanics receiving Democratic Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, or G.I. Bill benefits turning around and voting Shrubbite mainly because they don’t know the origin of the programs. But it would help if Democratic politicians at the national level would do some better connecting, too.

[bryant69]

1. I think you might look to the immigration bill

for a more complete analysis. The immigration bill showed Hispanics what Republicans think of them in pretty stark relief, and because of that Democrats might feel like the Hispanic Vote isn't as threatened as it might have been previously.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[UTUSN]

2. That's part of the problem. Dems were too scared to take a TRUE DEM position

on the immigration issue. Same as they were on the Iraq Attack. But I'm talking about a general lack of RELATING.

[bryant69]

3. Yeah, but do they need to relate?

I mean where else are the Hispanics going to go? To the Republicans who, money aside, have made it clear that they don't like Hispanics and don't consider them real Americans?

Bryant

[UTUSN]

4. As I said, some of them DO vote Rethug despite the Dem programs. Plus,

not needing to relate sounds a lot like somebody "owning" somebody. James DICKEY has a poem with a line, "not being (something-something), but OWNED," about the master(father)-slave.

Where would they go? Younger ones, doing the ignorant college-fad thing, went for NADIR, same as some of our other cohorts. And there are Miguel ESTRADAs and Alberto GONZALESes in every group, who *do* go Rethug. Obtuse to being patronized. Ruben NAVARRETTE, an Affirmative Action alum, like Clarence, feels victimized and stigmatized by being the patronized client of "White liberal males."

[UTUSN]

5. "not acknowledged, but OWNED..." - James DICKEY

The poem is about a plantation slave owner and the pathos of his personal relationship (either sexual or his children by the sex) with a slave, and his "not ACKNOWLEDGING but OWNING" the person.


Very demeaning/condescending.

[UTUSN]

6. "Slave Quarters": "not Acknowledge, but own... "

Found it!!1 Ain't Google grand?!1


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http://books.google.com/books?id=5n82ztXMkx0C&pg=PA89&lpg=PA89&dq=not+acknowledge+but+own+james+dickey&source=web&ots=6MSaunx_6d&sig=2VlHwNEC5QscG7fgyam50q8A9m8

(from "The Imagination of James Dickey")

.... ...Or the denial of vision can facilitate a more formal, sinister betrayal, as Dickey imagines himself as, simultaneiously, a slave owner on a slave plantation and the white father of an illegitimate black son and the father-who-denies-his-son, a master driven to madness by his role as an owner, in the poem "Slave Quarters." Dickey's question concerns itself with many forms of paternal betrayal of the eyes of others:



(tab) What it is to look once a day
(tab) Into an only
(tab) Son's brown, waiting, wholly possessed
(tab) Amazing eye, and not
(tab) Acknowledge, but own...



Ho take on the guilt...? is the poem's central question.

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