Secretary of State Debra Bowen to make announcement tonight on California voting machines.

[IChing]

Voting machines just not secure enough to guarantee a trustworthy 2008 presidential primary election. Secretary of State Debra Bowen expected to make announcement shortly.
By Valarie Grant and Ed Ely
Friday, August 3, 2007

Secretary of State Debra Bowen is expected to announce which voting machines will be certified for use in California's 2008 presidential primary elections. According to the "Source Code Review of the Diebold Voting System", voting machines are not secure enough to guarantee a trustworthy election. In fact, it would be surprisingly simple to derail the entire process. The University of California at Berkeley report says just one single skilled individual with temporary access to just one voting machine could compromise an election. The report was commissioned by the California Secretary of State as part of a two month extensive review of electronic voting systems certified for use in California

http://www.quakeradio.com/pages/localnews_template.html?feed=151111?feed=151111&article=2472450

[IChing]

1. This is big news for californians that will affect the rest of the nation

in the long run.

[EFerrari]

2. Great catch. K&R

[IChing]

5. We only found one link tonight and it was only mentioned on Mike Malloy

because of Brad who called in that does Brads blog a DUer
who said it was up on Quake radio.

[EFerrari]

6. Ah. Well, good for you guys. This is huge, no joke.

I STILL have nightmares where Debra loses.

[Cleita]

8. Have you seen this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=141&topic_id=27938&mesg_id=27938

It looks like they are coming in for an attack from all angles. If cheating on the voting machines becomes derailed, it seems they have a new plan to grab our electoral votes.

[EFerrari]

9. Yes! Have seen it. There is a full frontal attack on CA

if you know how to look. :mad:

[IChing]

10. Yes I did and nominated it

just didn't make a comment.

[GreenTea]

3. The voting machine companies ES&S and Diebold want complete control.

Who gives a shit how long it takes (besides the republicans and the TV networks) making sure EVERY vote is properly and accurately counted is far more important than speed!

Anyway, there's always over 2 1/2 month's before they take office in January after the election anyway, so speed is NOT a priority...accuracy IS!

If we get machines to spit out paper receipts, or touchscreens that one reads on the screen, correctly just as one has voted, and the receipt that one receives might also read exactly as one has voted...

BUT, that doesn't mean the machine that the electronic voting machine that Diebold OWNS will record it on the main memory as you voted and that you think you have a receipt for...And once it's in the memory, that's how it will be counted 'officially" and very easily hackable.

The electronic voting machine companies want complete control, citing software infringement...bullshit...they want to be able to cheat plain & simple...That's exactly what the republicans bullshit Help America Vote Act (HAVA) the republicans wrote it and they rammed it through in 2002...

Should corporations in this case two admitted republican owned corporations, DieBold and ES&S own our vote. Corporations should NOT be able to own and control our vote.

We pay for the machines, the people should own them...but the republicans are holding strong, AGAIN, citing that DieBold and ES&S should be able to secretly own and control the software uh....copyright infringement they say...bullshit, this is our vote and we own the machines and should demand to know what they are actually recording as fact. No way to challenge the machines accuracy or software, we aren't allowed anyway.

The Holt bill will NOT ensure that our vote will be correctly counted by these machines that are now placed in 90% of the precincts in the country just waiting to be manipulated for the 2008 elections.

PAPER BALLOTS AND AUDITS ARE THE ONLY ABSOLUTE WAY TO ASSURE ACCURACY WHEN VOTING OR A RECOUNT...MANY REPUBLICANS IN DIFFERENT STATES ARE FIGHTING THIS SITING IT'LL TAKE TOO LONG, WHO GIVES A FUCK, OUR AND ACCURACY ARE FAR MORE IMPORTANT - OR WE ALREADY PAID FOR THE MACHINES, AGAIN, WHO GIVES A FUCK THAT YOU PAID FOR MACHINES THAT CAN VERY EASILY BE HACKED AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVED TIME AND TIME AGAIN!

THE HOLT BILL ASSURES ALMOST NOTHING. ONLY PAPER BALLOTS CAN ASSURE THIS -- Accuracy is far more important than speed.

[EFerrari]

4. Btw, did you hear this from Peter B Collins? nt

[GreenTea]

7. Peter B is on vacation but Brad was great on Christine Craft's show today - She too is excellent!

I recall you used to always respond to my threads on DU in CA forum (2006 election) when I wrote over and over and over about Debra Bowen race for SoS was, as I put it, the most most important race in the whole country, because Rove & the republicans want to steal CA with APPOINTED McPherson as SOS, the republican owned machines, etc. etc...in fact Bowen actually used a lot of what I wrote to her in her final campaign donation drive. But I don't expect you to acknowledge it...I was just always happy you were there responding when few others would!

[LaPera]

14. I recall it vividly dude!

:hi:

[EFerrari]

17. I'm sorry if I was remiss, GreenTea. There's been a lot going on here.

And, thank you so much for your help in getting Debra elected. Imho, that was the most important race of 2006. I so agree with you about the importance of that race.

[BrotherBuzz]

15. Christine Craft's TalkCity progran is being broadcast on Peter B Collins affiliate stations

while he is on vacation. I'm a regular listener to Christine's program, and Brad Friedman, a good friend of Christine, is on quite often. He used to joke about having to sneak into Sacramento to avoid Arnie's goons. He is always a good interview subject.

[LaPera]

16. The Peter B Collins Show -

Right now Collins is on from Portland down to Monterey. When he gets a Seattle and San Diego affiliate, (which I'm sure he will) he then will truly have the whole "Left Coast".

Pretty impressive & powerful for a liberal/progressive independent.

And Collins is truly one of the best! Brad is on his show every Friday night 5 to 6.

[Nimrod2005]

11. I heard Brad from Bradblog.com call into MM show earlier....

I guess he is on night watch for the PC

[kansasblue]

12. I read Brad in in Texas. nt

[IChing]

13. He just flew in

[givemebackmycountry]

18. What's it 10 pm pst?

What she waiting for?
Or do they have her locked up in a room somewhere beating her with sticks?

[emlev]

19. Bowen still planning to make announcement tonight

From BRAD BLOG, standing by to bring you coverage:

UPDATE 10:15pm PT: This just in via email from Bowen's press office:
TONIGHT: Secretary of State Debra Bowen Will Announce Her Decisions on California Voting System Certifications

UPDATE on tonight's Sacramento press conference regarding Secretary of State Debra Bowen's voting system certification decisions...

We have heard a couple of people unaffiliated with the Secretary of State's office passed along some incorrect information earlier today. I wanted to let you know we still do not have an exact time for gathering here for the press conference but, pursuant to Elections Code 19222, Secretary Bowen will announce her decisions tonight. We will send out an advisory with press conference details as soon as they are confirmed.

Thank you again for your patience during these unique circumstances,

Nicole Winger
Deputy Secretary of State, Communications
Office of California Secretary of State Debra Bowen