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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 11:55 PM
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Fours statements on the Senate's passage of Bush's FISA bill: Webb, McCaskill, Reid and Rockefeller
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Sen. Webb Statement on FISA Vote
by: Lowell
Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 17:39:06 PM EDT

From Sen. Webb's office:

Yesterday I supported two measures to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. These measures were considered against the backdrop of heightened concerns from our nation's intelligence community abut the threat of international terrorism. The ramifications of the two amendments before us last night were not political. Instead they related to the urgent demands of national security. I chose to heed those warnings. We now have six months to work in earnest to bring full accountability to the process.

This distinction and the threats to national security were stated clearly by Admiral McConnell as well as four of the eight Democratic members of the Senate Intelligence Committee. These members, Senators Feinstein, Mikulski, Bayh, and Bill Nelson, have extensive experience on intelligence matters and are respected champions of civil rights and liberties. They chose to give significant weight and deference to the intelligence community on FISA reform, and so did I.

There is near uniform, bipartisan agreement on the need to reform FISA to reflect modern telecommunications and information technology. We must do so in a way that safeguards basic civil and constitutional rights. But we must also remember that the terrorist threat to the nation is extremely serious. I remain fully committed to bringing accountability to this process, and to protecting the privacy rights of all Americans.


"I’m not thrilled," said Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo. "There are some changes we need to make to make sure that American citizens are protected. But it's a lot better than a lot of things that have been forced down this Congress' throat right before recesses that trampled on American's liberties."


Senate Democrats worked in good faith with the Director of National Intelligence to produce the Rockefeller-Levin bill that was tough on terrorists, provided much-need oversight of the Attorney General, and did not infringe on the constitutional rights of American citizens. Rather than pass this bill, my Republican colleagues chose to rubberstamp a flawed Administration proposal that fails to provide the accountability needed in light of the Administration’s repeated past mismanagement of key tools in the war on terror. (Senator Harry Reid)


Statement from Senate Intelligence committee chairman Jay Rockefeller:

We all agreed Congress needed to take immediate action in order to help keep the country safe, and the Senate did that tonight.

My opposition to the final bill was based on the fact that it did not include the privacy protections and safeguards American citizens deserve and expect.

We had the opportunity to pass a more careful bill that would have given the DNI the authority he requested, while also protecting the rights of U.S. citizens.

Instead, this bill undermines the FISA Court and concedes unprecedented authority to the Attorney General.

It does contain the six-month sunset that we insisted upon, and that gives us an immediate opportunity and responsibility to come back and strike the right balance.


Interesting!

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 11:58 PM
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1. I'm really tired of hearing about 6 months for anything. They stalled, or
deferred, or did whatever they did, but they didn't do what we wanted, and that would be voting it down.
So they go on vacation, we 'deal' with this bullshit and the repercussions.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 12:00 AM
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2. They Just Gave Us Another 6 Months Of Lawbreaking
Well into the new year. Thanks a lot.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 12:00 AM
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3. All excuses that won't hold water. YOU screwed us. Over and out!

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 12:01 AM
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4. The country is NOT safe. It is not safe from a rogue president with absurd power.
Handing power to your enemy without a fight is cowardly.

We obviously are NOT clear on the enemy. The enemy of America is anyone who willingly, deliberately subverts our constitution. Our enemy is George W. Bush. Our enemy is Richard Cheney. Our enemy is Alberto Gonzales.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 12:02 AM
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5. Yeah, I just found out what's really happening after being misinformed
And now I'm pretty disappointed. For six months? Geez...
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 12:08 AM
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6. The bill did not include the privacy protections for American citizens...
"My opposition to the final bill was based on the fact that it did not include
the privacy protections and safeguards American citizens deserve and expect."

- Senate Intelligence committee chairman Jay Rockefeller -


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Have a great vacation all!! :sarcasm:
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 12:12 AM
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7. So, they were told in uncertain terms that we will be hit again?
Duh. This does not cover their asses. This was yet another hit to destroy our country. It came from within.

Score another win for the terra-ists.

They didn't have to follow us home. These cowards were already here and supposedly elected by the sheeple.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 01:45 AM
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8. Well at least Congress gets to go on vacation.
Looks like they wanted to go real bad.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:01 AM
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9. and in 6 months then what?
bush yells Terra terra terra and congress caves in again?

accountability? :spray: :rofl: good one, that's a real knee slapper

how about holding bush/cheney accountable for the laws they've already broken?

and about needing a smoking gun on the table before impeaching? phhhhttttt - I can hear it now - we don't have enough smoke.... shit and piss - they don't even have a freaking table
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:09 AM
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10. " it's a lot better than a lot of things that have been forced down this Congress' throat
right before recesses..."

Hardly a ringing endorsement and begs the question of why they let things be forced down their throats.

WTF is wrong with these people? Little Boots ran out and pitched a little hissyfit a couple of days ago and they cave? Something stinks to high heaven here. He bellowed that Congress needs to give him his bill right now and both the House and the Senate wagged their tails and rolled over on command.

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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:23 AM
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11. As I said before, there is no logical reason to give them this....
and then use the excuse "we have 6 months to take care of it". Why? When doing it right the 1st time would save the time it is going to take to re-hash it all again. They will do that for our benefit and still come up with the same thing. Guess they need a vacation.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:26 AM
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12. This is exactly....
.... what I expected.

9-11, the gift that keeps on giving.

The terrorists have dismantled our constitution, the very fiber of what America is about, with one strike.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:59 AM
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13. I hope their phones are the first tapped
by Rove, Cheney & Bush. They voted for it. They asked for it. They deserve it.
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A wise Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:28 PM
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14. Reid says, the rethugs rubber stamped the bill
Damn Reid, 41 democrats voted for the damn thing
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